We got Dunn also
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I liked his tape from Temple, but Vader soured me on him a bit. But I'll still take it.
He's fine for a depth piece and depth scoring, its an upgrade over someone like a Jeffress for example. His minutes should be similar to what he played at Houston, not more than that based off his efficiency metrics. 15-17 minutes or so is fine. This should not be a full time starter playing 30 minutes per game unless he makes some major improvements, which I doubt.
Great addition when you can get a guard who averaged ~17 mins per game on a 1 seed and Big 12 regular season champion squad. Great experience to insert into our backcourt.
Aside from Bub leaving, I’ve enjoyed the offseason so far!
Aside from Bub leaving, I’ve enjoyed the offseason so far!
Comparing a bench player who got decent minutes on a number one seed team to Jeffress is quite the insult. He was 34% from 3 against B12 competition. I agree he did have a lot of non offensive games, but was also capable of going off from time to time, something Jeffress never showed flashes of doing.
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I was not comparing him to Jeffress. I said he is an upgrade over someone like a Jeffress off the bench. Lets not dwell on the fact that Jeffress did 2 things here at this program fairly well, defense and rebounding and was really bad and limited on offense. We are getting some decent defense with Dunn with considerable more scoring punch albeit with average efficiency and shooting statistics. Its a good depth addition.
Expecting or even wanting this guy to score 10-15 points per game at 38% / 31% shooting splits is not something you want as a full time starter trying to improve the team year over year. He provides enough scoring potential to at least be taken seriously, unlike Jeffress or Fede where no one took seriously on the offensive side of the ball.
If we get some lock down defense from him with some scoring punch, he might pair well with Cummings who provides the offensive shooting firepower.
Literally any one would be better than Jeffress offensively though. Defense yes will gave a lot, but I’m trying to think of a better offensive Pitt comparison in recent years.
I was hoping for a higher rated recruit. However given that Leggett will now proably
start, Dunn should be a backup. Did anyone really expect the performance we got from
Leggett? All ACC 6h man award, and one of the main reasons we turned things around
in league play. Coming from a program like Houston with his stats etc he should be fine
off the bench for us. If he gives us anything close to what Leggett gave us as a sub, he
would be a great fit for what we have. Now Capel needs to get us a legit shooter. Doesn't
have to be a Hinson clone, but a guard/wing who can hit threes would be perfect. Also
a PF who can give us even more on the inside, would round out this team pretty well.
Just my two cents as I see us at this point.
I did with Leggett. I expected him to be somewhere around Mike Cook territory and he was. Austin was the guy I was far more skeptical with. Leggett embraced his role too off the bench which is important.
I think Dunn and Austin will battle for minutes at the 3 with Dunn getting some potential minutes at the 2.
The pairings are important. I think a Cummings / Dunn pairing could work well together based off their strengths and weakness. We are going to want a quality defender next to Cummings on the court. And while Cummings may play some point, his game is much more scoring 2 guard than playmaker.
Yeah I saw that as well. His highlights are quite impressive. But if Vader, whom I would label an optimist, is not thrilled about the pickup then it has me wondering if those highlights aren't showing a couple egregious bricks in between those low % makes.
Going off memory, but wasn't JWF kind of inefficient and a wildish shooter his first season here before kind of smoothing out his game a bit in year two? Maybe this dude can have a similar epiphany in his final season (at least I assume it is). Again, that may be an awful comp not supported by stats.
Assuming Leggett starts alongside Lowe, there’s an outside chance that we have three straight 6MOY winners…. pretty wild.
Think he will be a positive addition to the Pitt culture and set a good example for some of the younger guys. He will likely be given the chance to put up numbers closer to those he put up at Temple either as a starter or a 6th man. Solid get.
Well, if you watch his highlights and then watch Will Jeffres' highlights, I am fairly certain you'll notice a difference. My comment was already adjusted for highlights inflation.
Strange that no one puts out lowlights.
Nice pickup. He was good enough to play 17.5 min per game on the #1 team in the country, he's good enough to play 20+ min a game here.
Watch his game, not his metrics. This is a long, athletic guard that can play.
Watch his game, not his metrics. This is a long, athletic guard that can play.
Agree with this, I think Dunn instantly made our team better with what he can do. Maybe a role, but we will be better with him on board.
Not Peace Ilegomah's tape. Worst I've ever seen. Showed him getting fouled but missing the shot, making fairly basic passes, and making free throws. Maybe the worst player to ever play here.
Ok, I figured out my comparison. And yes it may be message board genius worthy. The Pitt player with most similar shooting stats and clutch shooting (as demonstrated by his clutch video; before I had just watched Houston video, but I can see why Houston wanted him) is Levance Fields. Levance dominated with a 6-7 to 1 assist/TO ratio, however, was one of worst Pitt shooters by stats. But he seemed to thrive in clutch moments. 27% from 3 in 07-08 and 34% from 3 in 08-09. FT in low 70s.
HCJC has evolved a lot the last few years with their use of statistical metrics and analysis.
Paired with his eye for talent, they seem to be able identify guys who get overlooked that turn out to be be pdg players. Also, a lean toward older and more experienced players, which Dunn most certainly is.
Good chance he plays at the level he did his last year a Temple, and as the season progresses HCJC will lean on him with Lowe and Ish to be they guys who he looks to win games with.
I also am with those who would like to see a Elliott type shooting specialist in the mix.
Any clue why his Sophomore and Junior TS% are better than his Houston numbers? It seems tempting to say the Big 12 defense is much better but his other Temple stats were weaker too.
At Houston, his field goal percentage and 3 point shooting percentage were weaker. Also his free throw percentage was over 10% worse at Houston. Simply put, he didn't shoot the ball well at Houston. He did have an ankle injury at Houston, but his shooting has never been his strong suit.
His shooting percentages could improve with better spacing. Houston did not have a good 3 point shooting team last year for the most part. He should have better spacing to work with next year at Pitt with our outside shooters.
Welcome, a vet G who can help. Won’t be a star 3 pt shooter but hopefully he can get back to what he shot from 3 his last year at Temple. Another guy who can create his own shot. Didn’t play a ton at Houston but bought in on D like everyone who plays for them does.
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