Gunga_Galunga said:

Losing Dunn is going to hurt in the short term, but may help longer term. Delalic and Cummings weren't going to get better sitting on the bench, and Capel seemed hesitant to play either much against the better competition.

Both these guys need to play in order to get accustomed to the speed and athleticism of major college basketball. They'll need the depth as the season wears on.

FWIW, we win that game last night if Dunn doesn't get hurt. No way we give up that lead and let Tonje go off if he's on the court.

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It only hurts if we stack losses. Lets estimate 6 weeks return time for Dunn and he comes back for Duke in January.

We need to beat Stanford, Cal, Sam Houston State, Eastern Kentucky. We should be 10 plus point favorites in all of those at home. We have to win these games.

We need to beat Virginia Tech who sucks.

We hope to beat at least 1 of Mississippi State and Ohio State. And Ohio State is going to play us without 2 of their rotation bigs with Stewart having I think concussion issues and Bradshaw not even practicing right now because of legal issues. Bradshaw is their starting center. So Pitt vs Ohio State is going to be another test of who's guards are better.

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forbesfield said:

I thought it was a questionable call, as well, but I do take issue with the uncatchable part. Does a ball being "uncatchable" mean that under no circumstances can a penalty be called? Can the defensive back just hold and hold and hold, or body slam the receiver to the ground, or even pull his jersey over his helmet, and still not be called for a penalty just because the throw sailed too far out over the line?

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I think this answer is yes. If its uncatchable, it cant be a penalty. I know you are being sarcastic but if the DB bodyslammed the WR, it would be a personal foul but you can't call PI on an uncatchable ball.

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forbesfield said:

I thought it was a questionable call, as well, but I do take issue with the uncatchable part. Does a ball being "uncatchable" mean that under no circumstances can a penalty be called? Can the defensive back just hold and hold and hold, or body slam the receiver to the ground, or even pull his jersey over his helmet, and still not be called for a penalty just because the throw sailed too far out over the line? Giving total dispensation in that setting doesn't seem right to me. What if the QB throws it away intentionally because the receiver isn't where he's supposed to be because he's being interfered with?

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I'm not a ref but I believe that would make it holding and not PI. Still automatic 1st down, but only 5 yards as opposed to 15.

With respect to what you say about an intentional throw away, remember in college, you can "interfere with" (you can't hold, but you can jam him, even jam him so hard as to knock him down) a receiver at any point on the field, you just can't do it while the ball is in the air.

forbesfield said:

I, too, have a friend whose daughter is in an LSU PhD program, and they are quite satisfied with her experience. But top to bottom, I would still maintain that there is no comparison. Michigan is one of the true public Ivies.

No argument on the Kelly stuff. He was always a phony that would eventually get exposed, but then again, a lot of college football coaches are. When he is dumped in a year or two, though, he is going to have a shit-ton of money in the bank.

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There is absolutely no academic competition between Michigan and LSU. It is equivalent to a 72-0 blowout. Not that it has anything to do with football.

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PANTHERAN said:

Agreed. But was it worse than the beat down Pitt got against SMU and Louisville who are not OSU? I would prefer being 10-1 on the way to 11-1 and have some believe we are frauds than 7-4 on the way to 7-5 and exposed as true frauds.

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Quite honestly, I would prefer being SMU or tOSU and on the way to the Conference Championship game.

steelcurtain55. said:

Bingo!!!

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So a bunch of circular logic, and now we're back to square one, whereby I said recruiting is part of the job duties and Narduzzi hasn't done well enough on offense. I know you think you won this debate. You didn't.

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