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1983 Cotton Bowl Pitt - SMU

The Trib had a friggin great article on this game today. (Note "great" doesn't mean flowering positive). It highlighted the absolute disaster of that season and the infighting of the team, players giving public interviews trashing other players, Marino's drug rumors, and especially the telling quotes of Foge being a great guy, a nice guy, but no discipline whatsoever. It was a literal crime for that team to be 9-3. And even their wins weren't impressive.

that was a good story and brought back many unpleasant memories unfortunately. I appreciate Jerry defending Marino against the viscous rumors. Interesting quote by Pelusi warning Bozik that Foge was too much the players friend. Sherrill/Foge were the perfect good cop-bad cop duo. They played off each other perfectly.

I remember studying for finals and the Pittsburgh Press ran that story about Dawkins dogging it much of the season. Exhibit A of the difference Sherrill would have made. Barry Compton or someone else would have been in the game at the first sign of trouble and Dawkins would be buried deep on the bench.
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Peak’s credibility gone

Your opinion. They were the greats of a great era in Pitt football that everyone forgets. Recency (last 50 years) doesn't mean you eliminate the greats of a previous era. That's the problem with people today. They either forget history or revise it to suit their warped agendas.
It's like saying Joe DiMaggio and Lou Gehrig aren't relevant to baseball history, or Joe Louis isn't relevant to boxing history. All were stars and champions competing in 1937 when Pitt was unanimous national champions.
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1983 Cotton Bowl Pitt - SMU

Bozo Bozik and Posvar were a bad combo. Incredibly, Pitt did worse later with the combo of Dennis J O’Conner and the AD who came from Auburn.
It is truly scary to think we went from the combo of Posvar/Bozik to O'conner/Oval. Mind boggling bad. No wonder Pederson/Nordenberg looked like geniuses, following that combo anything with a pulse would be better.

Peak’s credibility gone

doesnt make sense though. Dorsett is unanimously considered Pitt's all time greatest and he played 50 years ago. how many pitt fans actually even saw him play. Im in my late 40's and wasnt even born yet when he was a senior. Heck, i barely remember Dan Marino at pitt..

and pitt fans still bring up ditka. i guarantee you that you can count on one hand the pitt fans that ever saw him play.. Doleman, Rickey Jackson, Fralic, Hugh, all these guys, you have to be well in your 50's to remember them playing at pitt. ANd yet we all unanimously have them on our Mt. Rushmore list of pitt greats..

I was fortunate enough to see them all play starting from age 13 through 16 during the Dorsett years and forward. There is no absolute wrong answer beyond Dorsett and Green. But I will say based on what I saw with my own eyes, I would say that the list provided by Chris Peak (Dorsett, Green, Donald, Fralic and Fitzgerald) is spot on in my opinion. Each have not only been recognized as Pitt greats, but received national recognition as the very best to play their positions in College Football History.

Danny Marino, Mark May, Ricky Jackson, Jimbo Covert, Chris Doleman, Mike Ditka, etc.. would be a slam dunk top five at other schools.
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