2016 4* OT/Michigan Commit Back on Market

[JohnFunk]

Eric Swenson is back on the market after Michigan pulled his offer. Sad they treated him this way since he's been committed since '13!

Chris -- you think the staff may take a quick look?

http://www.mlive.com/wolverines/index.ssf/2016/01/erik_swenson_decommits_from_mi.html

 

[Pittnerski]

I hope there is more to this story. If not, pure classless on Coach Harbaughs part. Sucks when kids are more mature than adults.

 

[SoufOaklin4Life]

Harbaugh knows his job it to win.
Nothing sad about it,he'll land on a team.

 

[wicker]

Lots of talk he will go to Northwestern

 

[yourhired]

Harbaugh has to create scholarships so he took this option. I think it stinks to wait this long and lead the young man and is family. Northwestern isn't a bad fall back position.

 

[thebadby2]

I hope there is more to this story. If not, pure classless on Coach Harbaughs part. Sucks when kids are more mature than adults.

he wasn't even Harbaugh's recruit. They are going after and getting bigger fish. Nothing wrong with this.

 

[NTOP]

he wasn't even Harbaugh's recruit. They are going after and getting bigger fish. Nothing wrong with this.

Harbaugh had a year to decide that. Punk move by an arrogant ass.

 

[cruzer]

Eric Swenson is back on the market after Michigan pulled his offer. Sad they treated him this way since he's been committed since '13!

Chris -- you think the staff may take a quick look?

http://www.mlive.com/wolverines/index.ssf/2016/01/erik_swenson_decommits_from_mi.html

I don't have a problem with Harbaugh pulling the offer. This was a recruit from the previous coach. Every new coach does their own evaluation (just like the recruits do). If this kid didn't fit with Harbaugh's vision, so be it. That said, what stinks is that if Harbaugh was going to yank the ship, he should have done so a lot sooner. Pretty clear he waited to see how the class was filling up and used this kid as a backup.

The good news is that this kind of crap will come back to bite Harbaugh in the back side. Just more ammo for opposing coaches to call his integrity into question with future recruits.

Cruzer

 

[Dr. von Yinzer]

I completely disagree that Harbaugh did nothing wrong here. I would condemn Narduzzi if he did it this late in the game to one of our recruits as well.

We are sitting here bemoaning that we might lose a cornerback because it is so late in the process and it's hard to replace good players this late. Well, this is the other side of that very same coin.

This kid may end up at Northwestern and if he does, good for him. Northwestern is a wonderful school and Chicago is a great city. However, all of that is completely beside the point.

If this kid did not fit into Michigan's plans, they should have told him that months ago, not a few weeks before signing day.

This reminds me of something that happened to one of my friends about 10-15 years ago. He met a girl, dated her for a long time, and eventually they got engaged - due largely to pressure from her. They were a great couple - fun to be around.

Then, a few weeks before their wedding, she stunned everyone by calling it off and said she wasn't ready. Soon thereafter she moved out saying that she needed some space to figure a few things out.

Unsurprisingly, my buddy never saw or heard from her again. Within a week or two, she had moved to California without notice. My wife was good friends with her and only found out she had moved like a month or two after the fact. She explained that it was a business opportunity and that she thought she'd be back by now so she kept quiet about it.

That part was sad because we were friends with both of them and the whole thing became extremely awkward. However, we were largely sympathetic to her because we reasoned that she had to do what was best for her to be happy. We just wished it hadn't been at Brad's expense.

Then, like six or eight months later, she announced her engagement to another man - who just so happen to be her early college boyfriend. Take a guess where he lived?

We later learned that they had reconnected through Facebook just prior to the engagement and things progressed from there.

Alyson and Gregg are now married with two children and they are presumably happy. Good for her/them. However, she certainly could've treated my buddy a lot better than she did.

 

[wbrpanther]

Harbaugh knows his job it to win.
Nothing sad about it,he'll land on a team.

Disagree. This kid has been committed for over 2 years. If Harbaugh wanted to cut him lose he should have done it when he first took the job.

Harbaugh is a POS for doing this and it could come back to haunt him. This kind of stuff can stick in the minds of high school coaches.

 

[thebadby2]

I don't have a problem with Harbaugh pulling the offer. This was a recruit from the previous coach. Every new coach does their own evaluation (just like the recruits do). If this kid didn't fit with Harbaugh's vision, so be it. That said, what stinks is that if Harbaugh was going to yank the ship, he should have done so a lot sooner. Pretty clear he waited to see how the class was filling up and used this kid as a backup.

The good news is that this kind of crap will come back to bite Harbaugh in the back side. Just more ammo for opposing coaches to call his integrity into question with future recruits.

Cruzer

Don't hold your breath for the negative effects of that while he compiles the #1-2 recruiting class in the country this year.

 

[wbrpanther]

I completely disagree that Harbaugh did nothing wrong here. I would condemn Narduzzi if he did it this late in the game to one of our recruits as well.

We are sitting here bemoaning that we might lose a cornerback because it is so late in the process and it's hard to replace good players this late. Well, this is the other side of that very same coin.

This kid may end up at Northwestern and if he does, good for him. Northwestern is a wonderful school and Chicago is a great city. However, all of that is completely beside the point.

If this kid did not fit into Michigan's plans, they should have told him that months ago, not a few weeks before signing day.

This reminds me of something that happened to one of my friends about 10-15 years ago. He met a girl, dated her for a long time, and eventually they got engaged - due largely to pressure from her. They were a great couple - fun to be around.

Then, a few weeks before their wedding, she stunned everyone by calling it off and said she wasn't ready. Soon thereafter she moved out saying that she needed some space to figure a few things out.

Unsurprisingly, my buddy never saw or heard from her again. Within a week or two, she had moved to California without notice. My wife was good friends with her and only found out she had moved like a month or two after the fact. She explained that it was a business opportunity and that she thought she'd be back by now so she kept quiet about it.

That part was sad because we were friends with both of them and the whole thing became extremely awkward. However, we were largely sympathetic to her because we reasoned that she had to do what was best for her to be happy. We just wished it hadn't been at Brad's expense.

Then, like six or eight months later, she announced her engagement to another man - who just so happen to be her early college boyfriend. Take a guess where he lived?

We later learned that they had reconnected through Facebook just prior to the engagement and things progressed from there.

Alyson and Gregg are now married with two children and they are presumably happy. Good for her/them. However, she certainly could've treated my buddy a lot better than she did.

The moral of the story is.....Harbaugh is an ignorant bitch.

 

[SoufOaklin4Life]

Disagree. This kid has been committed for over 2 years. If Harbaugh wanted to cut him lose he should have done it when he first took the job.

Harbaugh is a POS for doing this and it could come back to haunt him. This kind of stuff can stick in the minds of high school coaches.

Won't affect him at all. he's a great coach and top players want to go to Michigan to play for him.

He just cast aside a 4 star recruit, because he has better players lined up and needs the space.

Think about that for awhile.

 

[wbrpanther]

Won't affect him at all. he's a great coach and top players want to go to Michigan to play for him.

He just cast aside a 4 star recruit, because he has better players lined up and needs the space.

Think about that for awhile.

I don't give 2 shits about Harbaugh. What he did he should have done as soon as he took the job.

The kid didn't deserve this and Harbaugh is a prick.

Think about that for a while.

 

[Swervin27]

Could he not have told him in say, June? Why now, why 2 weeks before LOI day? that's a d*ck move..

 

[pbrad]

A 4 star OT can go almost anywhere. My guess is he wasn't as good as his rating and Harbaugh has someone more suited to his offense. We may think its bush, but we had a few commits decommit very close to signing day in the past.

 

[Jpripper88]

I don't give 2 shits about Harbaugh. What he did he should have done as soon as he took the job.

The kid didn't deserve this and Harbaugh is a prick.

Think about that for a while.

Yeah, but it won't likely come back to haunt him because he is a great HC at a top school where kids are dying to go.

 

[OriginalEther]

Agree it's a dick move, but it's not going to haunt him.
And certainly plenty of his colleagues have personality deficits also.

 

[Pitt1992]

U don't tell a player who hasn't visited anyone since he committed 2 weeks from NSD ur pulling his offer through a text and not even call him nor will he answer any of his calls that's a dick move

 

[wicker]

Did he sign his financial aid papers?

 

[Hailpitt]

Dr Yinzer,
The moral of the story is Alyson(seriously she can't spell it "Allison") is a heartless bitch. Still friends with her? I hate sad stories! You ruined my evening.

 

[thebadby2]

a perfect ending would be this kid going to MSU and spending the next 4 years of his life becoming another one of Dantonio's storm troopers of destruction against Michigan-kids that were snubbed by the Wolverines who live for that one game every year when they get to take it out on the program that felt it was too good for them.

 

[BPXCIV]

how about get rid of this stupid thing called LOI day and have early signing periods? oh no way, can't have that! rivals, scout, espn and the recruitniks would lose their minds.

 

[PittPanthers90]

Do we have a spot for him?

 

[Swervin27]

how about get rid of this stupid thing called LOI day and have early signing periods? oh no way, can't have that! rivals, scout, espn and the recruitniks would lose their minds.

why would recruiting sites and espn care about an early signing period?? IT wouldn't effect them at all.. Coaches don't want it, that's why it wont happen..

 

[Pitt-Chains]

Could he not have told him in say, June? Why now, why 2 weeks before LOI day? that's a d*ck move..

Total d bag move...

 

[BPXCIV]

why would recruiting sites and espn care about an early signing period?? IT wouldn't effect them at all.. Coaches don't want it, that's why it wont happen..

Yeah i'my sure coaches love spending their time kissing up to verbal commits ad nausem in order to retain them as if they didn't have better things to do. LOI day is a media fabrication.

 

[wbrpanther]

Yeah, but it won't likely come back to haunt him because he is a great HC at a top school where kids are dying to go.

Very true but again, not the point.

 

[TD_6082]

Perhaps Harbaugh didn't know his recruiting class would be this strong when he took the job. It probably was in his best interest to keep the kid on board, just as it is now in his best interest to cut the kid loose. Yeah, its a d*ck move, but its a business where you have to be a d*ck sometimes. He did what he thought was in the best interest of his program, and at the end of the day, that is what he is paid to do.

 

[BuffetParrothead]

IMO there the recruit commitment process needs a fix to become a more orderly process.

+Recruits screw the U's when they jump ship at the last minute
+U's screw recruits when they pull offers late in the process

So lets say a recruit is willing to sign an LOI now I would think the U should be obligated to honor the commitment prior to signing day. If a recruit wants to wait until LOI day fine roll the dice and wait.
The recruit did his due diligence and selected a football program, the U recruited and accepted the player seems reasonable to me.
This would help a lot of programs like PITT since they would be able to lock in key recruits early in the process so they can move on and recruit other positions of need.
I know why the NCAA has a signing day they love the media circus and the money that goes along with it.
The signing day concept benefits the TOP programs. Their recruits are likely to say committed while they go out and raid other programs recruits at the end of the process leaving those programs with a recruiting class that doesn't meet their football needs.

 

[thebadby2]

Interestingly, immediately after jettisoning this kid, Michigan flipped a 3 star OT from UVA to take his spot. Maybe there's more to the story than we all know, the coaches aren't allowed to talk about it so the only side we're hearing is Swenson's.

 

[9nationalchampionships]

It is hard to feel for someone that is going to Northwestern.

 

[thebadby2]

It is hard to feel for someone that is going to Northwestern.

My niece is a soccer athlete there right now. Awesome school, incredibly smart kids. But no little kid dreams of someday putting on the purple and black and running out of the tunnel at Ryan Field in front of 35,000 seated fans. Per articles in the Detroit papers that kid actually grew up wanting to play for Michigan since he could walk. He'll be OK, and I don't even fault Harbaugh for pulling his offer, but it still sucks for him. I just wonder if there's a backstory, because like I said, UM immediately filled his spot with a 3 star OT they flipped from UVA. Something seems odd.

 

[Pitt-Chains]

My niece is a soccer athlete there right now. Awesome school, incredibly smart kids. But no little kid dreams of someday putting on the purple and black and running out of the tunnel at Ryan Field in front of 35,000 seated fans. Per articles in the Detroit papers that kid actually grew up wanting to play for Michigan since he could walk. He'll be OK, and I don't even fault Harbaugh for pulling his offer, but it still sucks for him. I just wonder if there's a backstory, because like I said, UM immediately filled his spot with a 3 star OT they flipped from UVA. Something seems odd.

Gotta be a back story...

 

[Jpripper88]

Perhaps Harbaugh didn't know his recruiting class would be this strong when he took the job. It probably was in his best interest to keep the kid on board, just as it is now in his best interest to cut the kid loose. Yeah, its a d*ck move, but its a business where you have to be a d*ck sometimes. He did what he thought was in the best interest of his program, and at the end of the day, that is what he is paid to do.

Agree with all of this. It is a shitty thing to do. Pitt/Narduzzi would be eviscerated if we did it. Harbaugh/UM, Saban/UA, and Meyer/tOSU can do it and not get burned. Maybe one or two more.

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

"TD_6082, post: 795093, member: 510"]Perhaps Harbaugh didn't know his recruiting class would be this strong when he took the job. It probably was in his best interest to keep the kid on board, just as it is now in his best interest to cut the kid loose. Yeah, its a d*ck move, but its a business where you have to be a d*ck sometimes. He did what he thought was in the best interest of his program, and at the end of the day, that is what he is paid to do.
Well, maybe you did not realize Harbaugh would be this good so soon, unlike Franklin that you said needs more time?

Harbaugh and Franklin have captured Big Headlines like you say, except Harbaugh Headlines are bringing in Top Recruits, and Franklin's Press Conferences Headlines explaining why Recruits, Players and Coaches are going away at Penn State?

We shall see?

 

[Teh Teh]

Now we offered