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It’s not often Dems break with their leadership so this sounds interesting.

“I don’t like giving Trump a win,”…But electric vehicles remain expensive and impractical in his heavily blue-collar district…”


Maybe some Dems realize and understand now that climate change is a non-issue with the American voting public and EV's aren't just expensive....they're impractical for many and their manufacturing does pollute the environment.

But I'm sure they'll find another non-issue to try and run on for one reason: they hate Trump.
 
Paywall. Those with access can comment.

It’s not often Dems break with their leadership so this sounds interesting.

“I don’t like giving Trump a win,”…But electric vehicles remain expensive and impractical in his heavily blue-collar district…”


You have a Times subscription? Maybe there is hope for you yet, FK. It is nice it is all-inclusive with the Athletic now.
 
Maybe some Dems realize and understand now that climate change is a non-issue with the American voting public and EV's aren't just expensive....they're impractical for many and their manufacturing does pollute the environment.

But I'm sure they'll find another non-issue to try and run on for one reason: they hate Trump.
Isn’t this admin literally did a Tesla car sales pitch on the White House lawn , like a month ago ?!?
 
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They do frequently

Because they aren’t a cult .
Yeah ok pal. Says the guy who thinks Trump doesn’t pass legislation because he can’t legislate. When in reality there’s a uniparty, that includes republicans in DC who works against him because all they want is political theater and aren’t interested in making change and simply are only out for themselves and not the American people who voted for Trump and Trump policy.

Additionally since you said cult, I’ll play. Why does the Dem have a hit piece out on Fettermen? It’s because he doesn’t follow the cult. So they are coming after him.

Plenty of republicans aren’t aligned with trumps social moderate positions like abortion.

Plenty of republicans aren’t aligned with Trump on Israel.

Plenty of republicans aren’t aligned with Trump on fighting wars all over the world.

Plenty of republicans don’t think Trump is pro 2nd amendment enough

Plenty of republicans weren’t aligned with Trump on the Trump vax.

Plenty on the right don’t watch or respect Fox News

There’s far more intellectual diversity on Americas right than there is the left. It’s not even close. Those of us on the right have disagreements all the time here, yet the leftists here who claim to be Christians won’t even allow themselves to disagree with any of the fellow leftists, like the satan worshipper here or any of the secular guys who mock Christian’s. Why don’t they? Because political dogma trumps their religion. Actually more accurately, politics is their religion.

Conversely, look at what happened during Covid. Everything that Fauci said was parroted by the media and the leftist sycophants. 6 feet to stop the spread was made up. Masks didn’t work. Vaccines didn’t stop the spread and kill the virus in its tracks. Schools should have never been shut down. Our kids suffered. Businesses should have never been shut down. Speaking of kids, they didn’t need vaccinated but you did so anyways. Ok maybe because of your wife lil Souf should have. But the point is following Fauci unconditionally because the left said to is as cult like as you can get.

When not one Dem can stand or applaud a kid with brain cancer, that’s cult like

When not one Dem showed respect for the families of women assaulted or killed by illegals, that’s cult like.

Why? Because their leadership told them not to. That’s cult like behavior.

Not one Democrat voted for women against males in sports. Not one. That’s cult like.


I can go on and on. You get the gist. Never ever pull the cult card. We coined it toward you, and you don’t get to steal it, because it’s your badge. You wear it.


They do frequently

Because they aren’t a cult .
 
Quick question-
Is the GOP the majority party in congress?
Where they likewise the majority for the first 2 years or 45 ?

Why is that Biden was able to get legislation done with narrow majorities , but trump can’t ?

Why would they vote for a non-issue that’s a matter for the states and local governments?!?
 
Quick question-
Is the GOP the majority party in congress?
Where they likewise the majority for the first 2 years or 45 ?

Why is that Biden was able to get legislation done with narrow majorities , but trump can’t ?

Why would they vote for a non-issue that’s a matter for the states and local governments?!?
Because there’s a uniparty in DC that make up the majority of Congress. Hint: they aren’t MAGA.

@pittbb80 here ya go. Have fun with it. :).
 
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Quick question-
Is the GOP the majority party in congress?
Where they likewise the majority for the first 2 years or 45 ?

Why is that Biden was able to get legislation done with narrow majorities , but trump can’t ?

Why would they vote for a non-issue that’s a matter for the states and local governments?!?
This clown thinks the GOP is aligned with America first policies. It’s not called the uniparty for nothing. The GOP is great at writing nasty tweets and letters, making. Tough speeches and fundraising off of the dissatisfaction with liberal policies. When it comes to legislation and governing not so much.

They are doing the same thing they did in trumps first term. Doing nothing to codify the America first policies and hoping to run out the clock until the mid terms

 
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This clown thinks the GOP is aligned with America first policies. It’s not called the uniparty for nothing. The GOP is great at writing nasty tweets and letters, making. Tough speeches and fundraising off of the dissatisfaction with liberal policies. When it comes to legislation and governing not so much.

They are doing the same thing they did in trumps first term. Doing nothing to codify the America first policies and hoping to run out the clock until the mid terms

Which is why I actually admire the Dems for being a cult. They are always unified.

That said, all that does is take their party further to the left.
 
Quick question-
Is the GOP the majority party in congress?
Where they likewise the majority for the first 2 years or 45 ?

Why is that Biden was able to get legislation done with narrow majorities , but trump can’t ?

Why would they vote for a non-issue that’s a matter for the states and local governments?!?
what's odd(or worse) is he already answered this rather explicitly
 
You’re going to have to break this down. I’m not going to take a pew chart with no context as gospel. What constitutes left and right to them? Because 450 members of Dems in Congress voted in favor of men playing in women’s sports and 0 voted against it. Nothing is further left than that. And furthermore until a Dem can define what a woman is, the debate is null.
 
This clown thinks the GOP is aligned with America first policies. It’s not called the uniparty for nothing. The GOP is great at writing nasty tweets and letters, making. Tough speeches and fundraising off of the dissatisfaction with liberal policies. When it comes to legislation and governing not so much.

They are doing the same thing they did in trumps first term. Doing nothing to codify the America first policies and hoping to run out the clock until the mid terms


The GOP, most of them, are nothing but puppets just like the Dems. They don't do what their constituency wants them to do. They do what gets them more power and money. They're all the same party, thus called uniparty.
 
Yeah ok pal. Says the guy who thinks Trump doesn’t pass legislation because he can’t legislate. When in reality there’s a uniparty, that includes republicans in DC who works against him because all they want is political theater and aren’t interested in making change and simply are only out for themselves and not the American people who voted for Trump and Trump policy.

Additionally since you said cult, I’ll play. Why does the Dem have a hit piece out on Fettermen? It’s because he doesn’t follow the cult. So they are coming after him.

Plenty of republicans aren’t aligned with trumps social moderate positions like abortion.

Plenty of republicans aren’t aligned with Trump on Israel.

Plenty of republicans aren’t aligned with Trump on fighting wars all over the world.

Plenty of republicans don’t think Trump is pro 2nd amendment enough

Plenty of republicans weren’t aligned with Trump on the Trump vax.

Plenty on the right don’t watch or respect Fox News

There’s far more intellectual diversity on Americas right than there is the left. It’s not even close. Those of us on the right have disagreements all the time here, yet the leftists here who claim to be Christians won’t even allow themselves to disagree with any of the fellow leftists, like the satan worshipper here or any of the secular guys who mock Christian’s. Why don’t they? Because political dogma trumps their religion. Actually more accurately, politics is their religion.

Conversely, look at what happened during Covid. Everything that Fauci said was parroted by the media and the leftist sycophants. 6 feet to stop the spread was made up. Masks didn’t work. Vaccines didn’t stop the spread and kill the virus in its tracks. Schools should have never been shut down. Our kids suffered. Businesses should have never been shut down. Speaking of kids, they didn’t need vaccinated but you did so anyways. Ok maybe because of your wife lil Souf should have. But the point is following Fauci unconditionally because the left said to is as cult like as you can get.

When not one Dem can stand or applaud a kid with brain cancer, that’s cult like

When not one Dem showed respect for the families of women assaulted or killed by illegals, that’s cult like.

Why? Because their leadership told them not to. That’s cult like behavior.

Not one Democrat voted for women against males in sports. Not one. That’s cult like.


I can go on and on. You get the gist. Never ever pull the cult card. We coined it toward you, and you don’t get to steal it, because it’s your badge. You wear it.
Pretty sure that a cut and paste far right wing internet tome. Regardless, it's funny as hell and complete f*ckig nonsense.
 
You’re going to have to break this down. I’m not going to take a pew chart with no context as gospel. What constitutes left and right to them? Because 450 members of Dems in Congress voted in favor of men playing in women’s sports and 0 voted against it. Nothing is further left than that. And furthermore until a Dem can define what a woman is, the debate is null.
Deep into the MAGA cult manufactured culture war rabbit hole.
 
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You’re going to have to break this down. I’m not going to take a pew chart with no context as gospel. What constitutes left and right to them? Because 450 members of Dems in Congress voted in favor of men playing in women’s sports and 0 voted against it. Nothing is further left than that. And furthermore until a Dem can define what a woman is, the debate is null.

 
what's odd(or worse) is he already answered this rather explicitly
You mean -
Make excuses did Trump’s failure to govern through legislation
“Swamp “ , “deep state “, “uniparty “.
It’s always a refrain for why no legislation gets delivered -
Yet the Republicans never actually stand up to Trump .
Amazing ?
Not even to take back control of tariffs as it actually belongs to Congress .
 
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Pretty sure that a cut and paste far right wing internet tome. Regardless, it's funny as hell and complete f*ckig nonsense.
Give me some credit. My thoughts are my own. Aren’t all the typos and poor structure a dead giveaway :). ??

In any event, attack the source (me) instead of the content. You’re not fooling anyone. You’re a dem tried and true.
 
Give me some credit. My thoughts are my own. Aren’t all the typos and poor structure a dead giveaway :). ??

In any event, attack the source (me) instead of the content. You’re not fooling anyone. You’re a dem tried and true.
It’s their go to. sOuRcE !!
 
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Give me some credit. My thoughts are my own. Aren’t all the typos and poor structure a dead giveaway :). ??

In any event, attack the source (me) instead of the content. You’re not fooling anyone. You’re a dem tried and true.
I'll wait for the Cliff's notes version. I'm too old for War and Peace missives.
 
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Maybe some Dems realize and understand now that climate change is a non-issue with the American voting public and EV's aren't just expensive....they're impractical for many and their manufacturing does pollute the environment.

But I'm sure they'll find another non-issue to try and run on for one reason: they hate Trump.
This is ultimately one of the big issues for Democrats. Practically, climate change *is* a significant and important issue, and will likely have negative effects on this country and obviously across the world across almost every demographic and voting bloc. It’ll challenge our infrastructure, disaster response systems, and will have downstream effects on things like immigration and domestic population shifts.

But it’s also proven to not be a political needle-mover. Even the people who are primed to be most affected have many other things that are more important to them politically that drive their voting decisions. So do you try and tackle a Big Important Problem that will be tremendously complex, lengthy and expensive to address, just to not really get any credit from voters on Election Day for your effort? Or do you not try to fix a pretty important problem in favor of tackling issues that might be more politically expedient?
 
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The GOP, most of them, are nothing but puppets just like the Dems. They don't do what their constituency wants them to do. They do what gets them more power and money. They're all the same party, thus called uniparty.
 
A group of Dems breaking over an issue has little to do with their views and more to do with politics. Democrats hate Trump more than they care about climate change, and so they are maneuvering now to secure more wins.
 
Well maybe Trump isn’t so owned by the Zionists. Good news for avoiding world war 3 as Bebe is hell bent on starting a war with Iran. It’s why Trump sacked Walz because he was owned by the Zionist

 
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Yeah ok pal. Says the guy who thinks Trump doesn’t pass legislation because he can’t legislate. When in reality there’s a uniparty, that includes republicans in DC who works against him because all they want is political theater and aren’t interested in making change and simply are only out for themselves and not the American people who voted for Trump and Trump policy.

Additionally since you said cult, I’ll play. Why does the Dem have a hit piece out on Fettermen? It’s because he doesn’t follow the cult. So they are coming after him.

Plenty of republicans aren’t aligned with trumps social moderate positions like abortion.

Plenty of republicans aren’t aligned with Trump on Israel.

Plenty of republicans aren’t aligned with Trump on fighting wars all over the world.

Plenty of republicans don’t think Trump is pro 2nd amendment enough

Plenty of republicans weren’t aligned with Trump on the Trump vax.

Plenty on the right don’t watch or respect Fox News

There’s far more intellectual diversity on Americas right than there is the left. It’s not even close. Those of us on the right have disagreements all the time here, yet the leftists here who claim to be Christians won’t even allow themselves to disagree with any of the fellow leftists, like the satan worshipper here or any of the secular guys who mock Christian’s. Why don’t they? Because political dogma trumps their religion. Actually more accurately, politics is their religion.

Conversely, look at what happened during Covid. Everything that Fauci said was parroted by the media and the leftist sycophants. 6 feet to stop the spread was made up. Masks didn’t work. Vaccines didn’t stop the spread and kill the virus in its tracks. Schools should have never been shut down. Our kids suffered. Businesses should have never been shut down. Speaking of kids, they didn’t need vaccinated but you did so anyways. Ok maybe because of your wife lil Souf should have. But the point is following Fauci unconditionally because the left said to is as cult like as you can get.

When not one Dem can stand or applaud a kid with brain cancer, that’s cult like

When not one Dem showed respect for the families of women assaulted or killed by illegals, that’s cult like.

Why? Because their leadership told them not to. That’s cult like behavior.

Not one Democrat voted for women against males in sports. Not one. That’s cult like.


I can go on and on. You get the gist. Never ever pull the cult card. We coined it toward you, and you don’t get to steal it, because it’s your badge. You wear it.
Great post, sir!
 
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Because there’s a uniparty in DC that make up the majority of Congress. Hint: they aren’t MAGA.

@pittbb80 here ya go. Have fun with it. :).

Souf always asks softball questions because he doesn't know any better. I don't know what the question was because I have souf on Ignore. But I can surmise what it is, and it's an inane question that's just too easy.
 
Yeah ok pal. Says the guy who thinks Trump doesn’t pass legislation because he can’t legislate. When in reality there’s a uniparty, that includes republicans in DC who works against him because all they want is political theater and aren’t interested in making change and simply are only out for themselves and not the American people who voted for Trump and Trump policy.

Additionally since you said cult, I’ll play. Why does the Dem have a hit piece out on Fettermen? It’s because he doesn’t follow the cult. So they are coming after him.

Plenty of republicans aren’t aligned with trumps social moderate positions like abortion.

Plenty of republicans aren’t aligned with Trump on Israel.

Plenty of republicans aren’t aligned with Trump on fighting wars all over the world.

Plenty of republicans don’t think Trump is pro 2nd amendment enough

Plenty of republicans weren’t aligned with Trump on the Trump vax.

Plenty on the right don’t watch or respect Fox News

There’s far more intellectual diversity on Americas right than there is the left. It’s not even close. Those of us on the right have disagreements all the time here, yet the leftists here who claim to be Christians won’t even allow themselves to disagree with any of the fellow leftists, like the satan worshipper here or any of the secular guys who mock Christian’s. Why don’t they? Because political dogma trumps their religion. Actually more accurately, politics is their religion.

Conversely, look at what happened during Covid. Everything that Fauci said was parroted by the media and the leftist sycophants. 6 feet to stop the spread was made up. Masks didn’t work. Vaccines didn’t stop the spread and kill the virus in its tracks. Schools should have never been shut down. Our kids suffered. Businesses should have never been shut down. Speaking of kids, they didn’t need vaccinated but you did so anyways. Ok maybe because of your wife lil Souf should have. But the point is following Fauci unconditionally because the left said to is as cult like as you can get.

When not one Dem can stand or applaud a kid with brain cancer, that’s cult like

When not one Dem showed respect for the families of women assaulted or killed by illegals, that’s cult like.

Why? Because their leadership told them not to. That’s cult like behavior.

Not one Democrat voted for women against males in sports. Not one. That’s cult like.


I can go on and on. You get the gist. Never ever pull the cult card. We coined it toward you, and you don’t get to steal it, because it’s your badge. You wear it.

Fk, this post needs pinned to the top of the board. Best post I've seen on here and a complete beatdown of the leftist cultists.
 
Yeah ok pal. Says the guy who thinks Trump doesn’t pass legislation because he can’t legislate. When in reality there’s a uniparty, that includes republicans in DC who works against him because all they want is political theater and aren’t interested in making change and simply are only out for themselves and not the American people who voted for Trump and Trump policy.

Additionally since you said cult, I’ll play. Why does the Dem have a hit piece out on Fettermen? It’s because he doesn’t follow the cult. So they are coming after him.

Plenty of republicans aren’t aligned with trumps social moderate positions like abortion.

Plenty of republicans aren’t aligned with Trump on Israel.

Plenty of republicans aren’t aligned with Trump on fighting wars all over the world.

Plenty of republicans don’t think Trump is pro 2nd amendment enough

Plenty of republicans weren’t aligned with Trump on the Trump vax.

Plenty on the right don’t watch or respect Fox News

There’s far more intellectual diversity on Americas right than there is the left. It’s not even close. Those of us on the right have disagreements all the time here, yet the leftists here who claim to be Christians won’t even allow themselves to disagree with any of the fellow leftists, like the satan worshipper here or any of the secular guys who mock Christian’s. Why don’t they? Because political dogma trumps their religion. Actually more accurately, politics is their religion.

Conversely, look at what happened during Covid. Everything that Fauci said was parroted by the media and the leftist sycophants. 6 feet to stop the spread was made up. Masks didn’t work. Vaccines didn’t stop the spread and kill the virus in its tracks. Schools should have never been shut down. Our kids suffered. Businesses should have never been shut down. Speaking of kids, they didn’t need vaccinated but you did so anyways. Ok maybe because of your wife lil Souf should have. But the point is following Fauci unconditionally because the left said to is as cult like as you can get.

When not one Dem can stand or applaud a kid with brain cancer, that’s cult like

When not one Dem showed respect for the families of women assaulted or killed by illegals, that’s cult like.

Why? Because their leadership told them not to. That’s cult like behavior.

Not one Democrat voted for women against males in sports. Not one. That’s cult like.


I can go on and on. You get the gist. Never ever pull the cult card. We coined it toward you, and you don’t get to steal it, because it’s your badge. You wear it.
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Well maybe Trump isn’t so owned by the Zionists. Good news for avoiding world war 3 as Bebe is hell bent on starting a war with Iran. It’s why Trump sacked Walz because he was owned by the Zionist

Or is it good news??? If Iran does enrich enough uranium to develop a nuke, the 1st place they send one is Israel. Israel retaliates and blows Iran off the map. What happens with the rest of the world order at that point is questionable. I don't think this scenario plays out well for anyone. I don't think Big Ben wants war with Iran, but, you can't trust Iran, and he wants assurances that we will help stop them from getting the nukes that they have been trying to develop for many years now. The scary thing is that we or anyone else, probably have little knowledge of exactly what point they are at in developing a capable nuclear warhead.
 
Quick question-
Is the GOP the majority party in congress?
Where they likewise the majority for the first 2 years or 45 ?

Why is that Biden was able to get legislation done with narrow majorities , but trump can’t ?

Why would they vote for a non-issue that’s a matter for the states and local governments?!?
Blackmail and bribery without a doubt. People like Adam kinzinger and Tom Tillus (sp?) are good examples. They are said to be republicans but certainly don't act like it. Tom Tillus basically never votes conservatively. He does not represent his constituents. He is not a republican. Hence the term rino. Lindsey Graham and mitch McConnell are also rinos. They are rinos because they are compromised.
 
Blackmail and bribery without a doubt. People like Adam kinzinger and Tom Tillus (sp?) are good examples. They are said to be republicans but certainly don't act like it. Tom Tillus basically never votes conservatively. He does not represent his constituents. He is not a republican. Hence the term rino. Lindsey Graham and mitch McConnell are also rinos. They are rinos because they are compromised.
Adam Kinzinger isn’t even in Congress.

Tom Tillis voted with Trump legislation 93% of the time, but is labeled as corrupt by you because he opposed a moron as US attorney in DC. MAGA is a cult.
 
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