A good idea that Pitt should consider

[GomerTV]

-if they don't already

PSU is coming down to ODU (Norfolk, VA) to cohost a high school event.

http://hamptonroads.com/2015/06/high-school-football-camp-odu-hosting-penn-state-sells-out

There are many good to great athletes in the area and I don't know if Pitt would want to do something like that in this area, but it seems like a good way to get exposure and see more athletes regardless of where it was held as well as build relationships with coaches.

 

[9nationalchampionships]

Pitt has been hitting Ohio hard and we just scheduled another River City Rivalry game with Cincy.

 

[Dr. von Yinzer]

Satellite camps are illegal per ACC rules. They are also illegal in the SEC. They are legal in the B1G - hence the PSU camp in VA.

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

Satellite camps are illegal per ACC rules. They are also illegal in the SEC. They are legal in the B1G - hence the PSU camp in VA.

Nothing is "Illegal" it may be against the "Conference Rules" but no one is going to be fined or taken to court or going to jail under a Court of Criminal Law.They may be fine by the Conference but not by the Justice System. They may be subject to a Civil Complaint if it gets that far from thr Conference, but no Police, Investigations, or Judge in a Criminal Court is going to be brought in to say they violated Criminal Laws that can lead to loss of Life, Liberty, and Property. They will be told, cited, and face a "Conference Sanction", but not an Criminal law.

Often the term "Illegal" is used within "Conference or NCAA" Rules that are agreed to to as part of being part of the "Conference and NCAA" and that determines what Schools are in compliance, out of compliance or have been reported or self-reported, and then investigated or given an warning, letter of reprimand, cease and desist, or sanction.

Thus, the ACC will inform a School or Program you cannot do that under our rules but they won't call it "Illegal" just Non-Compliance and then offer appropriate guidance, procedures, or file a formal complaint that they will take appropriate action on why they have asked the School or Program to cease, comply, or could be subject to a Conference Sanctions! Same for NCAA Rules and Procedures!

I know what you meant to say, and I understand it is a matter of style but I once made that mistake on TV once using that same term as a young man and was promptly corrected by a more experienced and older sports lawyer and off camera, and thanked him for telling me the way he did afterwards. It was a "Life Learning Event" but we later did pass the Sports Agency Act, that regulated Sports Agents in Pennsylvania (Exempted Attorney Of Course That Are Covered By A Stricter Code Of Discipline).

 

[7Fielder]

Satellite camps are illegal per ACC rules. They are also illegal in the SEC. They are legal in the B1G - hence the PSU camp in VA.

Narduzzi said exactly that the other night. Said he was against Satellite Camps because he and the staff are away from their families enough as it is and he'd rather have camps at Pitt where he can still spend time with his team. That said, Narduzzi also said that if the NCAA doesn't rule to make these camps illegal across all conferences then he said the SEC and ACC will change their rules and allow it and Pitt will end up doing them as well.

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

Pitt has been hitting Ohio hard and we just scheduled another River City Rivalry game with Cincy.

I am still in hopes that games against WVU & PSU will be scheduled more often since it will help sell out Heinz Field every other year and be a Premier Game on TV.

 

[7Fielder]

I am still in hopes that games against WVU & PSU will be scheduled more often since it will help sell out Heinz Field every other year and be a Premier Game on TV.

The Big Ten is moving to nine conferences games so Penn State is out.

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

Narduzzi said exactly that the other night. Said he was against Satellite Camps because he and the staff are away from their families enough as it is and he'd rather have camps at Pitt where he can still spend time with his team. That said, Narduzzi also said that if the NCAA doesn't rule to make these camps illegal across all conferences then he said the SEC and ACC will change their rules and allow it and Pitt will end up doing them as well.

I understand, but they still are not "Illegal" just against the ACC Conference or NCAA Rules that are also not "Illegal" or within their Rules! Coach Pat is a Coach and when he went to seminars to learn the Rules the Instructors often say that too.

When in actuality they are teaching or learning what they are allow to do and cannot do, and often use that term, "Illegal" when it is just "Non-Compliance!"

Sports Writers, Broadcasters, and Media say and write it all the time as well. But it is not Illegal" it is just against the Conference or NCAA Rules that govern all the Schools within that Conference and Association.

Now some of those Rules can be challenged also as Unconstitutional or against Anti-Trust or Restraint of Trade or a School or program may violate Federal and State Laws and that can be called "Illegal" or ruled Unconstitutional, but Conference and NCAA Rules are Athletics Associations that hold a College President responsible if that College is part of that Association.

It is easy to misuse the term "Illegal" when it is really "Non-Compliance" or "Against the Rules"! A Coach or anyone can say we are not allow to do that, and sometimes just says, it is "Illegal" in its place, knowing it is against the rules.

Now you can have Coaches, Recruits, Players do actual crimes, break IRS Rules, and even do fraud and later the Conference and NCAA may determine that was a violation of their rules, or be part of a violation of the Moral Clause within a contract, but that will be subjected still to their Rules and Procedures. If someone or a school wants to challenge it, it will be challenged in Civil Court not Criminal Court!

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

The Big Ten is moving to nine conferences games so Penn State is out.

I understand, PAC-12 did the same, and they once wanted and still do to schedule games against the Big Ten, but they pulled out later saying the same thing. When you only have 3 OOC, all Games have limited options.

Yet, be sure, GT-UGA, Clemson-SC, FSU-UF, and some others will keep playing each other within a state bragging right games, but even Texas A&M-UTexas has been removed and one is refusing to play the other now that A&M is in SEC, Miami-UF, WVU-Marshall, does not always happen either, and Pitt-PSU has gone away too.

Even Nebraska-Oklahoma and ND has ended some Rivalries when they committed to more ACC Games, are gone as well.

I do not think Air Force plays Army & Navy as often either?

Th bottom line is, if they want to find ways to play each other they can do it, and if they want to make excuses why they cannot play each other, they can do that even easier now. At some point, better minds will prevail and see that it is good for CFB & both Programs!

Once the College Playoffs gets resolved, new NCAA Rules, Conference Commissioners, Recruits & Players Compensation and Benefits, and possible "For Profit College League" comes into existence, there may be a re-organization among all Power Conferences with reductions on Rosters, Teams put into Geographic Locations so fan bases can sell out stadiums or attend games easily and all towards to increasing "shared revenues" and reducing costs like travel, recruiting, and insurance.

 

[7Fielder]

Th bottom line is, if they want to find ways to play each other they can do it, and if they want to make excuses why they cannot play each other, they can do that even easier now. At some point, better minds will prevail and see that it is good for CFB & both Programs!

And now Penn State has that excuse...