ACC baseball update

[TIGER-PAUL]

http://www.myajc.com/news/sports/college/acc-baseball-tournament-announces-changes/nsmXm/

 

[ThePanthers]

Love the tourney changes.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

I like the idea of 4 3-team pools but dont like the idea of having to decide a Pool Winner/Semifinalist by run differential as there will be many times when the 3 teams all go 1-1.

A better way to do it would be to have a 3 team "mini tournament" rather than a round robin.

Example:

Pool A (assuming all higher seeds win)
8 seed vs 9 seed
1 plays 8
8 plays 9 in elimination game
1 plays 8. 8 needs to win twice.

1 could get to semifinals by playing as few as 2 games with a max of 4 games.

8 or 9 could get to semifinals in as little as 3 games with a max of 5 games.

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

So in other words you like the idea and the only thing you don't like about it is, well, pretty much all of it.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

So in other words you like the idea and the only thing you don't like about it is, well, pretty much all of it.

I dont like run differential used as a tiebreaker to decide semifinalists. Seems kooky for baseball and it forces managers to manage the game differently.

Example: You're up 8-0 in the 5th with your ace on the mound. The game is pretty much won but the final score is not. Do you take him out and maybe win the game 10-4 and save him for a semifinal or championship game? Or do you leave him in so you can win 10-0 so you have a better run differential in case of a 3 way tiebreak.

Instead of run differential, I think the highest seeded team should advance to the semis if its a 3 way tie.

Another strange example is in the last game of the pool, a 1-0 team plays an 0-1 team. The 0-1 team knows it has to win by 5 runs to advance. Its the bottom of the 8th, the 0-1 team is winning by 3 but know they need 2 more runs to advance. They dont get the runs. They go to the Top of the 9th, winning by 3 but knowing they cant advance. Should they play the bottom of the 9th to see if they can get 2 more runs? Run differential just creates strange scenarios for baseball.

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

I understand what you are saying and in some ways I agree with it, but you said you like the idea and followed that up by proposing something that is almost completely different from what they are doing.

The ACC is going to pool play. Your proposal isn't pool play at all, it's several mini-tournaments that are essentially the same thing that most tournaments like this are now only with smaller groups. They are completely different concepts. Which is why I said that you said you liked the idea and that the only thing you don't like about it is everything. The only thing you keep from their idea is the smaller groups. You'd change everything else.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

I understand what you are saying and in some ways I agree with it, but you said you like the idea and followed that up by proposing something that is almost completely different from what they are doing.

The ACC is going to pool play. Your proposal isn't pool play at all, it's several mini-tournaments that are essentially the same thing that most tournaments like this are now only with smaller groups. They are completely different concepts. Which is why I said that you said you liked the idea and that the only thing you don't like about it is everything. The only thing you keep from their idea is the smaller groups. You'd change everything else.

Yea. 4 3-team mini-tournaments instead of 4 3-team round robins.