ACC need the nuclear option

[jivecat]

If the SEC wants to play games….the ACC needs to throw the haymaker and capture the Texas market:

Texas Tech
Baylor
Houston
SMU
TCU
Oklahoma ST
Kansas
K State
Iowa state

provided academics are okay (assuming)…..it give the ACC 24 football teams…..good enough for 2 auto bids in the playoffs. Western teams would play each other and the eastern teams would play their traditional rivals.

It would also be the best basketball in the country.

 

[WVUinColumbus]

If the SEC wants to play games….the ACC needs to throw the haymaker and capture the Texas market:

Texas Tech
Baylor
Houston
SMU
TCU
Oklahoma ST
Kansas
K State
Iowa state

provided academics are okay (assuming)…..it give the ACC 24 football teams…..good enough for 2 auto bids in the playoffs. Western teams would play each other and the eastern teams would play their traditional rivals.

It would also be the best basketball in the country.

You aren’t getting any more money in your ACC deal by adding these teams. And that’s because I don’t see ND on your list.

This is the sort of thinking akin to an opponent in your fantasy league offering 8 average players for Dalvin Cook.

 

[jivecat]

Maybe but you would capture a few things. A large share of the TX tv market, and one of the top moneymakers in the B12 (Iowa state), and two spots in the BCS playoffs. That is some very big coin.

The biggest problem is Texas Tech is not very strong academically. Still better then WVU but not sure the ACC would let them in.

 

[HailToPitt725]

I like the thinking Jivecat, but IMO a more effective “nuclear option” would be going after the Pac 12. Send invites to Arizona, Arizona St, Cal, Oregon, Stanford, UCLA, USC, and Washington. That’d give the ACC 22 schools, leaving two spots for a 24-team “super league” which I’d keep open for Notre Dame and someone else.

Edit: If you really wanted to target the Big XII, the only schools that are appealing to me would be Iowa State, Kansas, Oklahoma State, and/or Texas Tech, along with (of course) WVU.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

I think some combination of Kansas (bball/KC market), OKSt, TCU, TT, Houston, and Baylor should be explored but it would have to generate just a ton of money and not sure it would.

 

[jivecat]

Some of these moves may be more about survival as well. Yes…..your cut is less but you have ensured a place at the table for the next 25 years.

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

capture the Texas market

Much like the Big 12 should counter by adding IUP, Cal, Shippensburg, West Chester and Bloomsburg so they can capture the Pennsylvania market.

 

[TFBaum]

I like the thinking Jivecat, but IMO a more effective “nuclear option” would be going after the Pac 12. Send invites to Arizona, Arizona St, Cal, Oregon, Stanford, UCLA, USC, and Washington. That’d give the ACC 22 schools, leaving two spots for a 24-team “super league” which I’d keep open for Notre Dame and someone else.

Edit: If you really wanted to target the Big XII, the only schools that are appealing to me would be Iowa State, Kansas, Oklahoma State, and/or Texas Tech, along with (of course) WVU.

The winner of ACC East would play the Winner ACC West. Plus having USC and Stanford would further align ND.

 

[WannyandWalt]

See what it will take to get ND, add WV, I am sure if Michigan and OSU bolts the Big 10 for SEC, PSU might be an option as well , just not sure what Tobacco road is doing or not doing, well besides catering to UNC and Duke BB

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

Much like the Big 12 should counter by adding IUP, Cal, Shippensburg, West Chester and Bloomsburg so they can capture the Pennsylvania market.

Wouldn't be surprised at all to see the Big 12 to go after the newly formed university which merges Cal, Clarion, and Edinboro. Would be a natural rival for WVU.

 

[cease10]

The ACC needs another program or two other than Clemson to step up and be force on the national scene. That's what the conference needs more than ever. We need more contender and less pretenders.

 

[Zeldas Open Roof]

The ACC needs another program or two other than Clemson to step up and be force on the national scene. That's what the conference needs more than ever. We need more contender and less pretenders.

That’s why I’d like to see us go after ok state. Think that’s a really strong program. Not on caliber of Clemson but over last 5-10 years, probably better then everyone else in our conference.

Obviously they’d prefer the big 10 but if they do t go after them, we should.

 

[HailToPitt725]

The ACC needs another program or two other than Clemson to step up and be force on the national scene. That's what the conference needs more than ever. We need more contender and less pretenders.

Well, we might as well step up and fill that void!

 

[Voice of Danno]

How about this as an option. The four other P5 conferences get together and say they won't expand the playoffs to 12 unless there is a 3 team limit per conference. Part of the SEC adding OU and Texas is that they will get 5 or 6 spots and the money that goes along with it. The non SEC conferences will end up splitting at least 3spots (5 spots to the conference champion, the top rated non P5 school - needed to avoid anti trust lawsuit, and possibly ND). This would really bitch slap the SEC. Figure all but 3 of Alabama, Auburn, LSU, Georgia, Texas, Texas A&M, Florida and Oklahoma will be sitting it out every year. The fun watching who is the 3rd SEC team will be great theater.

 

[JSSTartan]

Texas > all Other teams in Texas combined.

 

[jivecat]

Not from a TV set perspective. My guess is the ACC network is not carried in TX. This opens it up to the 2nd most populous state in the US.

 

[goalieman]

Much like the Big 12 should counter by adding IUP, Cal, Shippensburg, West Chester and Bloomsburg so they can capture the Pennsylvania market.

Wouldn't be surprised at all to see the Big 12 to go after the newly formed university which merges Cal, Clarion, and Edinboro. Would be a natural rival for WVU.

Come on, you guys forgot Slippery Rock ....... Geez !!!!!!!!

 

[TheSpecialSauce]

Texas > all Other teams in Texas combined.

Texas A&M is #2 in the country in football revenue. That is not an accurate statement.

 

[JSSTartan]

Texas A&M is #2 in the country in football revenue. That is not an accurate statement.

Eyes on a streaming service and brand is the key for these purposes. I don’t like it but it’s the way it is. I’ll take Texas vs the state of Texas field on impact for conference purposes.

 

[joeydavid]

Wouldn't be surprised at all to see the Big 12 to go after the newly formed university which merges Cal, Clarion, and Edinboro. Would be a natural rival for WVU.

That's pretty insulting to the PA state schools.

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

My guess is the ACC network is not carried in TX.

This is going to come as a shock to, well, almost no one, but that is simply not true.

 

[jivecat]

This is going to come as a shock to, well, almost no one, but that is simply not true.

I didn’t know that. They carry the ACC network?

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

I didn’t know that. They carry the ACC network?

I would think ACCN is on a sports tier in Texas meaning instead of getting $1/subscriber which is the magic number for these networks, they get a tiny fraction of that.....which is understandable since its out of their footprint.

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

I didn’t know that. They carry the ACC network?

I know this can be hard to believe for people who think that television services begin and end with Comcast, but the ACC network is available in a large majority of the television homes of America.

 

[jivecat]

I know this can be hard to believe for people who think that television services begin and end with Comcast, but the ACC network is available in a large majority of the television homes of America.

I get streaming but the majority of people still have cable. Hence the package would include a fee for the ACC network.

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

I get streaming but the majority of people still have cable. Hence the package would include a fee for the ACC network.

I am not talking about streaming. I am talking about people turning on their cable television and having access to the ACC network.

A year ago the ACC Network was available in over 70 million homes. It is surely greater than that today. Most of the people who don't have it are Comcast customers. For some reason Comcast customers don't seem to understand that.

 

[recruitsreadtheseboards]

I know this can be hard to believe for people who think that television services begin and end with Comcast, but the ACC network is available in a large majority of the television homes of America.

Just not in the majority of the ACC footprint. Comcast is the dominant provider in most major metro areas. And isn't it special the be weird white spot where it is not available is shaped alot like North Carolina.

 

[recruitsreadtheseboards]

Just not in the majority of the ACC footprint. Comcast is the dominant provider in most major metro areas. And isn't it special the be weird white spot where it is not available is shaped alot like North Carolina.

As you can see, Comcast is the major provider for:
Boston
New York
NYC
Jersey
Philly
Pittsburgh
Baltimore/DC
Virginia
Atlanta
Charleston
Miami
Jacksonville
Detroit
Chicago
Indianapolis
Minneapolis
Nashville
Houston
Denver
Northern Cal
Seattle

But hey, Greensboro, NC or Raleigh, NC, no issues. That's all that matters.

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

But hey, Greensboro, NC or Raleigh, NC, no issues. That's all that matters.

But hey, anyone who really wants the ACC network can get it. That's all that really matters.

 

[JohnnyGossamer]

Just not in the majority of the ACC footprint. Comcast is the dominant provider in most major metro areas. And isn't it special the be weird white spot where it is not available is shaped alot like North Carolina.

Oh, wow. That's incredible. No wonder they didn't get the deal done right. I honestly had no idea until seeing this. This is actually so infuriating that's it made me laugh out loud laying on my couch here.

 

[joeydavid]

Oh, wow. That's incredible. No wonder they didn't get the deal done right. I honestly had no idea until seeing this. This is actually so infuriating that's it made me laugh out loud laying on my couch here.

How many years did it take for the B1G to be picked up by Comcast?

 

[WannyandWalt]

As you can see, Comcast is the major provider for:
Boston
New York
NYC
Jersey
Philly
Pittsburgh
Baltimore/DC
Virginia
Atlanta
Charleston
Miami
Jacksonville
Detroit
Chicago
Indianapolis
Minneapolis
Nashville
Houston
Denver
Northern Cal
Seattle

But hey, Greensboro, NC or Raleigh, NC, no issues. That's all that matters.

Ding ding ding, winner

 

[ThePanthers]

Oh, wow. That's incredible. No wonder they didn't get the deal done right. I honestly had no idea until seeing this. This is actually so infuriating that's it made me laugh out loud laying on my couch here.

Carriage for Comcast was never expected until 2021

 

[IRoar4Pitt]

What is the real problem with Comcast and the ACCN?

 

[RaleighPittFan]

What is the real problem with Comcast and the ACCN?

Most likely the same issue Comcast had with the Big 10 Network when it started, and they didn't carry it.

 

[KBay]

Maybe but you would capture a few things. A large share of the TX tv market, and one of the top moneymakers in the B12 (Iowa state), and two spots in the BCS playoffs. That is some very big coin.

The biggest problem is Texas Tech is not very strong academically. Still better then WVU but not sure the ACC would let them in.

 

[KBay]

Is Texas Tech as bad as Louisville?

 

[pittdan77]

I don't think turning the ACC into Conference USA makes much sense.

 

[303vND]

Not from a TV set perspective. My guess is the ACC network is not carried in TX. This opens it up to the 2nd most populous state in the US.

That's exactly why you go get the University of Houston. Big TV market and a DEEP POCKET SUPPORTER.

 

[pitt90seven]

Just not in the majority of the ACC footprint. Comcast is the dominant provider in most major metro areas. And isn't it special the be weird white spot where it is not available is shaped alot like North Carolina.

why would anyone pay for comcast at this point? youtubetv is SO good and SO much cheaper.