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Sean Miller Fan

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Here's Saturday's games

noon - North Carolina State @ Notre Dame (CBS)
noon - Clemson @ Boston College (Fox Sports South, in Pittsburgh on Root Sports)
2:00 - Syracuse @ Florida State (ESPN2)
2:00 - Pitt @ Georgia Tech (Raycom, in Pittsburgh on WTAE)
4:00 - Miami @ Virginia Tech (Raycom, in Pitsburgh on WTAE)
6:30 - North Carolina @ Duke (ESPN)
8:30 - Louisville @ Virginia (ESPN)


- UNC and Miami can't finish lower than 3rd. UNC locks the 1 with either a win or losses by Miami and UVa

- Miami locks the 1 with a win and UNC loss

- UVa locks the 1 with a win and losses by UNC and Miami

- Duke can get the 3 seed with a win and UVa loss.

- If UVa wins, Duke/ND will be 4/5. Duke gets the 4 with a win or ND loss. ND would need a win AND Duke loss

bye

- 6 to 9 could go many different ways. Here's the scenarios.

Clem, Pitt, VT, Syr all win or all lose (mini-conference record)
6. Clemson (2-1)
7. Pitt (3-2)
8. VT (2-2)
9. Syr (1-3)

Clemson, Pitt, Syr win but VT loses
6. Clemson (2-0)
7. Pitt (2-1)
8. Syr (0-3)
9. VT

Clemson, Pitt, VT win, Syr loses
6. VT (2-1)
7. Clemson (1-1)
8. Pitt (1-2)
9. Syr

Clemson, Syr, VT win, Pitt loses
Tiebreaker goes by winning pct vs conference champ and moving down till tie is broken. Games agains Louisville also count in tiebreaker. Since Syr has not beaten UNC, UVa, Miami, or Lou but Clemson and VT have, they would be 8th.

Clemson and Pitt win, VT and Syr lose
6. Clemson
7. Pitt
8. Syr
9. VT

Clemson and Syr win, Pitt and VT lose
6. Clemson
7. Syr
8. VT
9. Pitt

Clemson and VT win, Pitt and and Syr lose
6. VT
7. Clemson
8. Pitt
9. Syr

Clemson wins, everybody else loses
6. Clemson
7. Pitt (3-1)
8. VT (1-2)
9. Syr (1-2)

Clemson lose, everybody else wins
6. Pitt (3-1)
7. VT (1-2)
8. Syr (1-2)
9. Clemson

Clemson and Pitt lose, Syr and VT win
6. Syr
7.VT
8. Clemson
9. Pitt

Clemson and Syr lose, Pitt and VT win
6. VT
7. Pitt
8. Clemson
9. Syracuse
VT wins tiebreaker over us for beating Miami or UVa.

Clemson and VT lose, Pitt and Syr win
6. Pitt
7. Syr
8. VT
9. Clemson

Clemson, Pitt, Syr lose, VT wins
6. VT
7. Clemson (2-0)
8. Pitt (2-1)
9. Syr (0-3)

Clemson, Pitt, VT lose, Syr wins
6. Syr
7. VT (2-1)
8. Clemson (1-1)
9. Pitt (1-2)

Clemson, Syr, VT lose, Pitt wins
6. Pitt
7/8 VT/Clemson, depends on how MIami, UVa, Lou finish
9. Syr

I think that's all the scenarios.

- FSU/GT will be 10/11 and remember, the 11 seed has to play on Tuesday. GT owns the head to head so they just need either a win or an FSU loss. FSU needs a win AND GT loss to get the 1st Round

- 12-14 are set. Tuesday will look like this:

noon: (12) NC State vs (13) Wake Forest
2:30: (11) FSU or GT vs (14) Boston College


- For Pitt, its win and you are in the NCAA Tournament and a probable 7 seed with a primetime 7PM start. Lose and its more than likely an 8/9 matchup at noon. So, its either a 7PM anxiety-free game-watch or a noon "Game 7" kind of feel. Prettty big difference.

The worst-scenario for Pitt is losing to GT and getting Syracuse in the 8/9 game. I feel the committee may view that as a play-in game since Syr has better wins.
 
If ND loses and Pitt wins, Pitt moves ahead of ND.
ND can be as high as 4th... but as low as 7th. They lose tiebreakers with Pitt and Syracuse.
 
If ND loses and Pitt wins, Pitt moves ahead of ND.
ND can be as high as 4th... but as low as 7th. They lose tiebreakers with Pitt and Syracuse.

I forgot to factor in ND losing. I dont think they will though. If they do, we can finish as high as 5th.
 
I forgot to factor in ND losing. I dont think they will though. If they do, we can finish as high as 5th.
ND has been blown out in two straight games and has lost 3 of 4.

They're struggling.

I certainly think they can lose.... Not likely, but not horribly unlikely either. ND defends like Pitt...as in, not at all most of the time. So if their offense is struggling, they WILL lose.
 
Update:

Tuesday
Noon - 11 FSU vs 14 BC
2:30 - 12 NCSU vs 13 Wake

Wednesday
Noon - 8 Pitt vs 9 Syracuse
2:30 - 5 Duke (if they lose to UNC) vs NCSU/Wake

7:00 - 7 Clemson vs 10 GT
9:30 - 6 VT vs 11 FSU
 
Buzz Williams - the man can coach. VT going to finish 6th. He turned this bottom feeder around in 2 years.
 
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