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Talked about it in another thread but I hate when threads go off topic so I thought I would throw this idea out there. I hate having the tournament in Greensboro and wherever in Carolina. Just feels like a mid Major thing. You have the Big East in NYC, A 10 in Brooklyn, Big 10 in Chicago/Indy. Pac 12 in Vegas (my first preference. Screw geography. it's Vegas). Major cities that have a lot to offer besides the tournament.

Joking aside about Vegas. Here's something to think about. Not sure if it's even feasible but try to get it back at MSG. It is the premier showcase for hoops and having the ACC there increases the tournament brand.

I know the Big East has locked the building up for 10 more years. But how about playing the week before? The ACC is down this year but most years it's one of the best and deepest conferences in the country. To win the ACC title you may have to play three top 20 teams (maybe top 15) on three consecutive nights. Then five days later play again with travel from the tournament to the NCAAT site.

By playing the week before, all the teams get a little bit of breather. The season is a meat grinder ans so is the tournament. The only competition for eyes will be the mid and low major tournaments (which I love but still will be televised). But the rest, physically and mentally, would be great. I think the Big 10's problem winning a NCAA Championship is due in part the best teams are playing on Sunday.

I know this probably will never happen because the Knicks and Rangers will never agree to a 2 week road trip but hypothetically if possible what do you guys think. Just something fun to think about.
 
Personally I would rather see it in the heart of ACC country somewhere. DC or Charlotte probably being the most central and accessible to all members. The only members north of NYC are Syracuse and BC. I don't think NYC as great as it would be "feels" like the ACC. It would be good for BC/Pitt/Syracuse.
 
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Ajntrw said:
Personally I would rather see it in the heart of ACC country somewhere. DC or Charlotte probably being the most central and accessible to all members. The only members north of NYC are Syracuse and BC. I don't think NYC as great as it would be "feels" like the ACC. It would be good for BC/Pitt/Syracuse.
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Even DC...Pitt is the second-closest ACC school to Washington DC (UVA is the closest), and there's a big Pitt alumni base in the DC area. Having the ACC tournament be in DC every other year or every third year would be a great benefit to Pitt.
 
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I went the year it was in DC and it was fun. I don't think the ACC has to go to NYC. It will never feel the same as the BE, so don't bother imitating.

I personally think Miami would be a nice trip.
 
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I was going to say Miami! I think that is a reward for schools and in footprint!

levance2 said:
I went the year it was in DC and it was fun. I don't think the ACC has to go to NYC. It will never feel the same as the BE, so don't bother imitating.

I personally think Miami would be a nice trip.
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Friday
1st Round

Saturday
2nd Round

Sunday
Quarterfinals

Monday
Semifinals

Tuesday
Championship

Wednesday
Big East Tournament

I liked how the B10 went the week before but I thought it was kinda stupid to end it on Sunday. No need
 
If it were me, I'd go

Year 1: MSG (Friday-Tuesday) or Barclays
Year 2: DC
Year 3: Charlotte
Year 4: bid out to Atlanta, Miami, Boston, Pittsburgh, Chicago, Virginia Beach, etc

Give Greensboro some season-opening ACC Tip-Off series or something.
 
Greensboro is not even in footprint so why go there at all? The ACC needs to adapt to the current!

Sean Miller Fan said:
If it were me, I'd go

Year 1: MSG (Friday-Tuesday) or Barclays
Year 2: DC
Year 3: Charlotte
Year 4: bid out to Atlanta, Miami, Boston, Pittsburgh, Chicago, Virginia Beach, etc

Give Greensboro some season-opening ACC Tip-Off series or something.
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Greensboro is well within comfortable driving distance for UVa, VT, Duke, UNC, N C State, Wake Forest, Clemson, and, even, GT. There are no locations that are convenient for BC, Syracuse, FSU, Notre Dame, Louisville, and Miami. You can expect the tournament to be in Brooklyn every once in a while. Atlanta remains a possibility, too. DC will host occasionally. Nonetheless, the tradition of Greensboro means a lot to the old guard. You have to know that the PTB at Pitt knew this when they decided to join the ACC. Perhaps you should just resign yourself to the fact and look forward to a week of excellent golf.
 
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Greensboro is well within comfortable driving distance for UVa, VT, Duke, UNC, N C State, Wake Forest, Clemson, and, even, GT. There are no locations that are convenient for BC, Syracuse, FSU, Notre Dame, Louisville, and Miami. You can expect the tournament to be in Brooklyn every once in a while. Atlanta remains a possibility, too. DC will host occasionally. Nonetheless, the tradition of Greensboro means a lot to the old guard. You have to know that the PTB at Pitt knew this when they decided to join the ACC. Perhaps you should just resign yourself to the fact and look forward to a week of excellent golf.
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Who golfs? Its 2020
 
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People be golfing in Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, & Georgia. And, more importantly, it is very likely the heavy donors to your athletic department play the game a wee bit, despite the words of Samuel Clemens. :)
 
F Mayberry NC! It has no business being anywhere on the radar for the ACC in 2020.

73CAV said:
Greensboro is well within comfortable driving distance for UVa, VT, Duke, UNC, N C State, Wake Forest, Clemson, and, even, GT. There are no locations that are convenient for BC, Syracuse, FSU, Notre Dame, Louisville, and Miami. You can expect the tournament to be in Brooklyn every once in a while. Atlanta remains a possibility, too. DC will host occasionally. Nonetheless, the tradition of Greensboro means a lot to the old guard. You have to know that the PTB at Pitt knew this when they decided to join the ACC. Perhaps you should just resign yourself to the fact and look forward to a week of excellent golf.
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It is not a footprint city......Try to follow along!


73CAV said:
You joined a conference which was geographically located along the the southern Atlantic seaboard, and you expect them to change how things have been done for decades? It was Pitt's decision to join the ACC. Less generous folks than I might suggest that if you want to play a tournament in MSG, you could return to the Big East.
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73CAV said:
You joined a conference which was geographically located along the the southern Atlantic seaboard, and you expect them to change how things have been done for decades? It was Pitt's decision to join the ACC. Less generous folks than I might suggest that if you want to play a tournament in MSG, you could return to the Big East.
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Chicago
New York City
Los Angeles
Kansas City
Atlanta
Nashville
Las Vegas
Washington D.C.
Charlotte
Greensboro

Which one on the list isn’t considered a major city in the USA?
 
Who cares whether it's a 'footprint city'? That's kind of meaningless. It's convenient to the traditional members of the ACC. There is more than a bit of tradition there. Most prefer a location which is easily accessible. Typically, someone doesn't seek membership in a club, and then demand that the old members change things to suit the new member. That's not the way it works. If you didn't want to play the tournament in the South, why did you join the conference?
 
Who said the ACC Tournament needed to be played in a 'major city'? That has never been a consideration, as far as I know.
 
9nationalchampionships said:
Having the ACC championship in Greensboro is the dumbest idea for a location as I can think of! Why does the ACC owe anything to Greensboro, NC?
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It's not that they owe anything to Greensboro. The ACC is headquartered in Greensboro., their marquee programs are nearby. This is their base and it's good for the local economy. They have a long history with Greensboro... They like it there.
 
73CAV said:
Who said the ACC Tournament needed to be played in a 'major city'? That has never been a consideration, as far as I know.
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The ACC is a big time conference, and it’s time to start acting like it. You can start by making sure the city has a major airport for travel purposes.
 
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Greensboro is an easy drive from either Charlotte or Raleigh.

Tobacco Road is the wheel that drives this conference. The Big East refugees are just spokes in the wheel. And it's not like it's in Greensboro annually.
 
They they they......well the ACC is now more than them! Greensboro a a terrible location for our championship. Time to market to the new ACC outside of Cackalacky


TD_6082 said:
It's not that they owe anything to Greensboro. The ACC is headquartered in Greensboro., their marquee programs are nearby. This is their base and it's good for the local economy. They have a long history with Greensboro... They like it there.
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9nationalchampionships said:
They they they......well the ACC is now more than them! Greensboro a a terrible location for our championship. Time to market to the new ACC outside of Cackalacky
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I suspect we're going to see this exact same thread here every March, and that you are going to be continually disappointed. Or, at least, disappointed in one of every three or four years. Things are what they are.
 
9nationalchampionships said:
They they they......well the ACC is now more than them! Greensboro a a terrible location for our championship. Time to market to the new ACC outside of Cackalacky
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They have. Besides, It's in DC next year, NYC after that. What more do you want?

Their base is still Tobacco Road schools. You know how Texas calls the shots in the Big 12?... Similar thing here. That's just the way it is.
 
73CAV said:
Who cares whether it's a 'footprint city'? That's kind of meaningless. It's convenient to the traditional members of the ACC. There is more than a bit of tradition there. Most prefer a location which is easily accessible. Typically, someone doesn't seek membership in a club, and then demand that the old members change things to suit the new member. That's not the way it works. If you didn't want to play the tournament in the South, why did you join the conference?
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So is Raleigh and Charlotte and both are far better locations
 
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SoufOaklin4Life said:
So is Raleigh and Charlotte and both are far better locations
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But the Greensboro Coliseum seats 22K, and the complex has a host of amenities that are very well suited to the basketball tournament. Charlotte's Spectrum Center seats a bit over 20K. The PNC in Raleigh is under 20K. It is also the home court of N C State, and the tournament hasn't been held on their home floor (then Reynolds Coliseum, IIRC) since Case was running things. The other cities may have a certain appeal, but the Greensboro Coliseum remains one of the best venues in the South.
 
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73CAV said:
But the Greensboro Coliseum seats 22K, and the complex has a host of amenities that are very well suited to the basketball tournament. Charlotte's Spectrum Center seats a bit over 20K. The PNC in Raleigh is under 20K. It is also the home court of N C State, and the tournament hasn't been held on their home court (then Reynolds Coliseum, IIRC) since Case was running things.
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So we agree
They have appropriate facilities and are better locations while being geographically equal to Greensboro
 
SoufOaklin4Life said:
So is Raleigh and Charlotte and both are far better locations
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Exactly. It absolutely should be in North Carolina on a regular basis. It should also never be played in Greensboro. Charlotte is superior in literally every way.

And if they don't want to play in the Spectrum Center they could always go to the building of our favorite sponsor, the Bojangles' Coliseum at the BoPlex.


IT'S BO TIME!!
 
Joe the Panther Fan said:
Exactly. It absolutely should be in North Carolina on a regular basis. It should also never be played in Greensboro. Charlotte is superior in literally every way.

And if they don't want to play in the Spectrum Center they could always go to the building of our favorite sponsor, the Bojangles' Coliseum at the BoPlex.
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I went to the first round games there years ago-

the locals warned me about the total lack of anything near. We packed a cooler just in case - because I couldn’t believe them-

they were absolutely right .
 
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So we agree
They have appropriate facilities and are better locations while being geographically equal to Greensboro
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Well, not quite. The Greensboro Coliseum complex is superior to those other facilities. There is a lot more to the complex than just the Coliseum. The tournament will never take place on N C State's home court, but it is likely to be held in Charlotte at some point. That said, every year this thread appears on this forum, and nothing really changes. The tournament will be held in Greensboro more than any other city, and there is very little that will change that. You would think that there would be a simple recognition of that fact.
 
73CAV said:
The tournament will be held in Greensboro more than any other city, and there is very little that will change that. You would think that there would be a simple recognition of that fact.
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Similarly, you would think that someone with even half a brain would realize just exactly how dumb that is.

And if the people running the conference truly think that they just can't leave Greensboro then yeah, they really are dumb.

Greensboro screams small time. It screams living in the past. It screams being afraid of change. None of those are good, no matter how many ACC tournaments they played there before most of us were born.
 
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73CAV said:
Well, not quite. The Greensboro Coliseum complex is superior to those other facilities. There is a lot more to the complex than just the Coliseum. The tournament will never take place on N C State's home court, but it is likely to be held in Charlotte at some point. That said, every year this thread appears on this forum, and nothing really changes. The tournament will be held in Greensboro more than any other city, and there is very little that will change that. You would think that there would be a simple recognition of that fact.
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You guys, mostly, are still stuck in 1870 or 1920. Things move slowly in your parts. Just the way you people are.
 
Joe the Panther Fan said:
Similarly, you would think that someone with even half a brain would realize just exactly how dumb that is.

And if the people running the conference truly think that they just can't leave Greensboro then yeah, they really are dumb.

Greensboro screams small time. It screams living in the past. It screams being afraid of change. None of those are good, no matter how many ACC tournaments they played there before most of us were born.
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And, regardless of what you say is being screamed, the folks in charge aren't listening, and that isn't likely to change. It is what it is.
 
73CAV said:
Well, not quite. The Greensboro Coliseum complex is superior to those other facilities. There is a lot more to the complex than just the Coliseum. The tournament will never take place on N C State's home court, but it is likely to be held in Charlotte at some point. That said, every year this thread appears on this forum, and nothing really changes. The tournament will be held in Greensboro more than any other city, and there is very little that will change that. You would think that there would be a simple recognition of that fact.
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I lived in North Carolina for 14 years and been there many times

the Greensboro coliseum isn’t a great venue and there is literally nothing but parking lots around it

it sucks
 
Kind of has a cult like feel there. The locals are into it and sure it helps local economy. But overall seems small time now. Not much else going on. As an away game trip, way down on list.
 
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