Adams tearing it up
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Never would have become an NBA star without Dixon teaching him to hedge.
Ernie Johnson, Shaq, Barkley, and Kenny Smith are calling the Lakers game on TNT right now. This should be interesting. I love hearing Shaq and Charles go at each other.
I think back on his year at Pitt and just think what a waste of talent. Dixon literally had no idea what to do with the guy. His development was all in spite of the worst micro manager in basketball.
This is such a tired argument that has so little grounding in what happened Adams’ one year at Pitt or his first three years at OKC.
Or did Scott Brooks also mismanage Adams?
Things have worked out quite well for him so it hard to argue that his stay at Pitt wasn’t helpful to some degree . When I watched him play at Greentree in the summer he looked so much better than he did during the season . He absolutely made the right decision in leaving for the advancement of his career , just didn’t work out so well for Pitt .
I don't care to comment on Adams as much as your sig video really makes me miss Fields.
That kid was a flat out tough dude and a clutch player. One of my favorite players ever.
I’m not sure whether or not Dixon was instrumental in developing Adams. What I am sure of is his underdeveloped skills (at the time) were under utilized at Pitt.
He’s always been a guy who was much more suited for just about every type of basketball except for college basketball.
His defense and rebounding will shine no matter what, but his offensive game is pretty much just rim runs and putbacks. He’s a massive liability with his back to the basket and rim runs just aren’t really available for bigs in college basketball.
Of all the gear my son opened up on Christmas Day, I'd have to rank them in this order (based on his reaction):
1) OKC Thunder
2) Chelsea Football
3) Pgh Steelers
4) Pitt
Sadly, Pitt finishing dead last has to be Stallings fault. Everything is. I even think Adams lack of use his year at Pitt had something to do with Stallings. Maybe the board trolls have a thought?
1) OKC Thunder
2) Chelsea Football
3) Pgh Steelers
4) Pitt
Sadly, Pitt finishing dead last has to be Stallings fault. Everything is. I even think Adams lack of use his year at Pitt had something to do with Stallings. Maybe the board trolls have a thought?
Were you the one who was contacted by someone at OKC directly for an Adams jersey or am I thinking of someone else?
Indeed. That was me Last year. OKC took care of my boy for Christmas.
This year we got him some other stuff that wasn't as difficult as finding an Adams Jersey.
Those jerseys they wore last night were sweet. Bet he would have loved one.
I watch a lot of Adams in the NBA. There is some crazy stat where over 90 percent of his shots made are in the lane and around 3 feet from the basket. His biggest improvement is his hands and coordination are elite. And with his physicality and lack of many true centers he is also stronger than most of his opponents and he uses his body well to get position for put backs. Also, he is one of the best at setting picks and rolling to the basket.
But offensively, he still hasn't developed a shot that he uses or post moves. I don't see his current success as being any sort of repudiation of Dixon's use of Adams at Pitt.
But offensively, he still hasn't developed a shot that he uses or post moves. I don't see his current success as being any sort of repudiation of Dixon's use of Adams at Pitt.
After all these years, OKC still uses Adams pretty much EXACTLY the same way that Dixon used him at Pitt.
Disagree. Adams progressed nicely as the year went on. He would have been all american his sophomore year and pitt may have made a final four run.
He did SUCH a good job he went on to be a fullback for the Pittsburgh Steelers.
I am really happy that Adams is doing well, and he does rep and tout Pitt when he can. I am damn glad for the NBA yesterday because until the Steelers game, the viewing choices were brutal. And as a long time 76ers fan, I am trusting the process, but dammit that team is too talented to not start winning.
I maybe showing my age, but by the way, my favorite athlete to watch all time is Mario Lemieux. Oh wait, that is not relevant to this thread. Second........Dr. Julius Erving.
I maybe showing my age, but by the way, my favorite athlete to watch all time is Mario Lemieux. Oh wait, that is not relevant to this thread. Second........Dr. Julius Erving.
Do you realize that it was Jamie Dixon who brought Steven Adams to the US to play basketball? Or were you sitting in your basement?
This is a really bizarre thread.
Adams is great for a team like OKC. He's not expected to play a large offensive role besides, as mentioned, put backs and dunks. He plays great defense, spaces the floor, protects the rim, and understands his role. Massively critical when you've got an all-world stud (Westbrook) and one of the most selfish players of all-time (Anthony). He's a better Deandre Jordan, who has a similar skillset and role thanks to Griffin and previously CP3 in LA.
He doesn't need to be Brow or Boogie, so he doesn't try to be. But for his role, he's a great player and like a player above mentioned, he's using the exact same skillset and game plan Dixon deployed for him at Pitt. People want to flap their mouth because Dixon didn't try to turn him into Patrick Ewing or something, just like they'd probably get their panties in a twist that Dixon doesn't get ketchup on his hot dog or something equally ****ing petty and stupid.
What Adams learned at Pitt is why Presti drafted him, and why Presti and Billy Donovan have him doing what he's doing right now. They're not trying to make him be a stretch 5 hitting 20 footers like he's Al Horford or something.
Adams is great for a team like OKC. He's not expected to play a large offensive role besides, as mentioned, put backs and dunks. He plays great defense, spaces the floor, protects the rim, and understands his role. Massively critical when you've got an all-world stud (Westbrook) and one of the most selfish players of all-time (Anthony). He's a better Deandre Jordan, who has a similar skillset and role thanks to Griffin and previously CP3 in LA.
He doesn't need to be Brow or Boogie, so he doesn't try to be. But for his role, he's a great player and like a player above mentioned, he's using the exact same skillset and game plan Dixon deployed for him at Pitt. People want to flap their mouth because Dixon didn't try to turn him into Patrick Ewing or something, just like they'd probably get their panties in a twist that Dixon doesn't get ketchup on his hot dog or something equally ****ing petty and stupid.
What Adams learned at Pitt is why Presti drafted him, and why Presti and Billy Donovan have him doing what he's doing right now. They're not trying to make him be a stretch 5 hitting 20 footers like he's Al Horford or something.
That's about all Dixon did. Misused him and didn't develop him offensively a lick. And the fact that he left after a year meant that his coming to Pitt in the first place( since Pitt didn't recruit a replacement) was a net negative. Bravo , Dixon... Bum.
How about the ND game... He and the rest of the team looked like they played with a medicine ball. They completely stunk! Adams had no offensive game and Dixon did very little to develop him offensively.
Asking Dixon to develop a guy offensively is going against everything the guy stood for. And let's be honest, Steven was too raw in that area and outside of Dixons area of expertise.
But where Steven could have helped more was defensively and rebounding. Steven was not known as a defensive rebounder when he got drafted. He wasn't good at boxing out, etc. But he was good on the offensive glass. Defensively he helped us significantly. We had a very poor defense team that year. Where Dixon could have helped him is in minutes played and rebounding fundamentals. That's where Jamie fell short.
But where Steven could have helped more was defensively and rebounding. Steven was not known as a defensive rebounder when he got drafted. He wasn't good at boxing out, etc. But he was good on the offensive glass. Defensively he helped us significantly. We had a very poor defense team that year. Where Dixon could have helped him is in minutes played and rebounding fundamentals. That's where Jamie fell short.
They drafted him because there aren’t many human beings who are so big and athletic . What he did at his time at Pitt was irrelevant , he never displayed anything resembling lottery talent in his short stay at Pitt . Three words describes Adams and why he was a lottery pick , size strength and the most important potential . He could have played at Point Park or Robert Morris and he’d have been drafted in the same
slot . The credit JD should get was in getting him to Pitt had he stayed and developed then you can say JD was instrumental in his
development .
Yeah he had lottery hype for the following draft, the one after his sophomore year, but he wasn’t really on the radar for after his freshman year. Then he declared, had a late first round projection, then he measured and tested off the charts at the NBA Combine and wound up late lottery. Even then, he was regarded as a guy destined for the D-/G-League for at least a year or two until he surprised everyone with his ability to hedge and defend in the pick-and-roll game.
He was an effective player here despite is limitations on offense and his tendency to accumulate fouls. More or less what he’s been in OKC.
I wish he would have stayed that extra year.
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I don't recall fouls being an issue. Those of us who paid close attention thought that he played way less than he should have. And I thought I saw he avearaged 1.7 fouls per game at Pitt. But I respect your opinion. Someone who only averaged 23 minutes per game--you'd think he would have averaged over 3 fouls per game.
As opposed to us other fans who just see five amorphous, indistinguishable bodies on the floor at all times.
Yeah now that I looked he had fewer fouls than I thought. I always remembered him picking up a cheap foul or two on a hedge that would force him to the bench for chunks of a half.
I think it’s because the cheap, questionable stuff annoys me.
For some of us, his management was watched closer than anything else. That's all I'm saying. So sorry to have offended you.
