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All of you who are so traumatized…

More likable? if the water wasn’t poisoned here, I guarantee you he is much more likeable than Capel.

Who likes Capel? Certainly not his first batch of players. What is likable about Capel?
Lol guarantee based on what?
 
Lol guarantee based on what?
I am sorry. I should have said most sane people do not find a walking excuse likable.

I can not guarantee what those not included in that grouping might find likable.

Better?
 
We know Capel didn't do it in 4

Still deflecting for Stallings, are you? ;)

But yes, you are correct, Capel is no where close to what SMF likes to call Dixon II. What we do know is that Dixon's league win percentage in his final four years was .556.

Stallings' league percentage in two years was .111 and Capel's in four years is .285

Just for fun, in Capel's first two years, he was .237 in league play.

Nonetheless, although it can never be proven in any direction for Stallings, I saw nothing from Stallings to provide any evidence that he would have been anywhere near .500 in league play.

I think SMF is still pretty enamored with Marcus Carr. I think it's now pretty clear what kind of player Carr really is. He's pretty decent one, but not a great one, who is a volume shooter who doesn't shoot a very good percentage. Minnesota was 8-12 and 6-14 in his two years.
 
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Which I suspect deep down is the biggest reason you don't like Capel.
That is not very nice.

Search my posts. I applauded the hire. I supported his level of recruiting. I said we were back.

He lost me after last year. Losing, tearing down the team. Blaming most of his problems in one way or the other on Covid. Having Lykego out echoing his excuses. Coming close to accusing LSU of cheating in the Reid recruitment when he was probably guilty himself.

The building a mansion tweet was the cherry on top.




That was hard to top, but he did with a poor late recruiting period followed by a zero early recruiting period.

That wasn’t enough. season opening home double digit loss to the Citadel and home losses to UMBC and Monmouth.

But YOU go on thinking my biggest reason for not liking Capel is because he is woke.
 
That is not very nice.

Search my posts. I applauded the hire. I supported his level of recruiting. I said we were back.

He lost me after last year. Losing, tearing down the team. Blaming most of his problems in one way or the other on Covid. Having Lykego out echoing his excuses. Coming close to accusing LSU of cheating in the Reid recruitment when he was probably guilty himself.

The building a mansion tweet was the cherry on top.



Put hard to top, but he did with a poor late recruiting period followed by a zero early recruiting period.

That wasn’t enough. season opening home double digit loss to the Citadel and home losses to UMBC and Monmouth.

But YOu go on thinking my biggest reason for not liking Capel is because he is woke.

OK ... fair enough. My bad.
 
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I seriously, seriously doubt it.

Maybe not but he wasn't anywhere near as bad of a coach as Pitt fans think he is. He was terrible here in 2 years, yes. But he was historically an above average coach at a tough place to win. If given time, and I absolutely do not think he should have been given time, I think he would have developed a bubble type program like he had at Vandy. Of course, he was decent at Vandy when the SEC didn't play basketball. But then again, the new SEC is the old ACC and the new ACC is the old SEC so maybe he would have fit in well.
 
Still deflecting for Stallings, are you? ;)

But yes, you are correct, Capel is no where close to what SMF likes to call Dixon II. What we do know is that Dixon's league win percentage in his final four years was .556.

Stallings' league percentage in two years was .111 and Capel's in four years is .285

Just for fun, in Capel's first two years, he was .237 in league play.

Nonetheless, although it can never be proven in any direction for Stallings, I saw nothing from Stallings to provide any evidence that he would have been anywhere near .500 in league play.

I think SMF is still pretty enamored with Marcus Carr. I think it's now pretty clear what kind of player Carr really is. He's pretty decent one, but not a great one, who is a volume shooter who doesn't shoot a very good percentage. Minnesota was 8-12 and 6-14 in his two years.
Marcus care might be worse than burton, if we are being honest. They are fairly similar.
 
Maybe not but he wasn't anywhere near as bad of a coach as Pitt fans think he is. He was terrible here in 2 years, yes. But he was historically an above average coach at a tough place to win. If given time, and I absolutely do not think he should have been given time, I think he would have developed a bubble type program like he had at Vandy. Of course, he was decent at Vandy when the SEC didn't play basketball. But then again, the new SEC is the old ACC and the new ACC is the old SEC so maybe he would have fit in well.
He was awful.
 
That is not very nice.

Search my posts. I applauded the hire. I supported his level of recruiting. I said we were back.

He lost me after last year. Losing, tearing down the team. Blaming most of his problems in one way or the other on Covid. Having Lykego out echoing his excuses. Coming close to accusing LSU of cheating in the Reid recruitment when he was probably guilty himself.

The building a mansion tweet was the cherry on top.




That was hard to top, but he did with a poor late recruiting period followed by a zero early recruiting period.

That wasn’t enough. season opening home double digit loss to the Citadel and home losses to UMBC and Monmouth.

But YOU go on thinking my biggest reason for not liking Capel is because he is woke.

Shiny ball——

had he not taken a side you like disagree with socially you wouldn’t be hell bent on this vendetta.
 
Shiny ball——

had he not taken a side you like disagree with socially you wouldn’t be hell bent on this vendetta.
Yep, the only way ANYONE could say that Capel comes off as less likable than Stallings is if it was coming from a place of a political agenda.
 
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Maybe not but he wasn't anywhere near as bad of a coach as Pitt fans think he is. He was terrible here in 2 years, yes. But he was historically an above average coach at a tough place to win. If given time, and I absolutely do not think he should have been given time, I think he would have developed a bubble type program like he had at Vandy. Of course, he was decent at Vandy when the SEC didn't play basketball. But then again, the new SEC is the old ACC and the new ACC is the old SEC so maybe he would have fit in well.
I do agree with this. He certainly wasn’t a hack. But he was the wrong guy at the wrong time with Pitt.
 
I like the hire - Age appropriate, Head Coaching experience, good recruiter and in the ACC footprint.

One caution (read the Duke rivals board) might have been Duke's bagman. Look at the Bagley recruitment. It had all the hallmarks (reclassification, VERY late decision) of holding out for the highest bidder.
 
I thought his recruiting was fine. I was encouraged. With Hugley, maybe “we were back”?

His problem was his inability to mold, control, Coach and maintain his players.

He lost me with the complete tear down and lack of effective recruiting in the last late period.

I am not one for allowing a nearly complete do over. Why would you expect it to be different?
 
I do think we are back, Back not to just being good but back to the identity we had.

I have thought this from 3 games ago. I thought maybe the Hugley suspension could destroy that.

After the Duke game, it appears it did not.

3 thoughts from the game.

Up 12 near the end of the half and getting a steal, it was time to run offense, not turn it over and give up a three.

When we were having some slight offense difficulties, with Toney trying to do too much, I thought a Horton 3 could have had a huge impact. Horton played 33 minutes. He was largely ( rightfully) ignored by Duke. I would have liked to seen another three or two.

How can you give up an inbounds layup at that stage of the game?
 
I do agree with this. He certainly wasn’t a hack. But he was the wrong guy at the wrong time with Pitt.
I believe I even suggested him as a possibility before there were even any rumors of him being hired.

He would not have been my choice, but remove all the emotion, he wasn’t a ridiculous choice.
 
I believe I even suggested him as a possibility before there were even any rumors of him being hired.

He would not have been my choice, but remove all the emotion, he wasn’t a ridiculous choice.
Not ridiculous, but not a good choice on paper. He was about to get fired at Vandy and at 56, really was no longer a coach trying to prove his resume. And he’s not a guy who breathes life it a program, nor who had enough gravitas to follow a coach who made the tournament 11 of 13 years.
 
Not ridiculous, but not a good choice on paper. He was about to get fired at Vandy and at 56, really was no longer a coach trying to prove his resume. And he’s not a guy who breathes life it a program, nor who had enough gravitas to follow a coach who made the tournament 11 of 13 years.
There was a chance he was a burn out, but Following Jamie was going to be a problem for any coach.

A lot of emotion attached and rightly so.
 
There was a chance he was a burn out, but Following Jamie was going to be a problem for any coach.

A lot of emotion attached and rightly so.
We could have followed Dixon with a coach whose past was greater, if not just equal to Dixon. Or we could have hired an up and coming type.

Stallings was neither.
 
We could have followed Dixon with a coach whose past was greater, if not just equal to Dixon. Or we could have hired an up and coming type.

Stallings was neither.
You don’t agree it would have been difficult for any coach that followed Dixon?
 
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Not ridiculous, but not a good choice on paper. He was about to get fired at Vandy and at 56, really was no longer a coach trying to prove his resume. And he’s not a guy who breathes life it a program, nor who had enough gravitas to follow a coach who made the tournament 11 of 13 years.
I stopped watching as soon as they hired him.
I started back up when they hired Capel so I'm 50/50 so far.
 
You don’t agree it would have been difficult for any coach that followed Dixon?
No doubt … but Stallings didn’t help himself any with his results, including a 55 point loss in year one.
 
We could have followed Dixon with a coach whose past was greater, if not just equal to Dixon. Or we could have hired an up and coming type.

Stallings was neither.
If you were a coach with a better resume than Dixon (not many) or a sought after up-and-comer, and you looked at the Pitt job and also considered what led to Dixon leaving (and it is a small coaching fraternity where word travels fast), would you follow Dixon at Pitt with those expectations and take that job to work for Barnes?

I'm not saying Stallings was the right or even a good or appropriate hire; he was not. The patheticness of the situations were all connected together with Barnes at the head.
 
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I am sorry. I should have said most sane people do not find a walking excuse likable.

I can not guarantee what those not included in that grouping might find likable.

Better?
Stallings didn’t need to make any excuses. You made plenty for him!

Both coaches stink and Pitt stinks. That’s about that.
 
No doubt … but Stallings didn’t help himself any with his results, including a 55 point loss in year one.
You don’t have to convince that he was a disaster. it was apparent. he had to go and when he did.

We either hired a burnout or he immediately became one after his introductory press conference. Impossible to know which .
 
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Stallings didn’t need to make any excuses. You made plenty for him!

Both coaches stink and Pitt stinks. That’s about that.
I made one excuse and it was a big one.

Agree with your last sentence.
 
You don’t have to convince that he was a disaster. it was apparent. he had to go and when he did.

We either hired a burnout or he immediately became one after his introductory press conference.
I know what happened at that press conference is a button for you and it was a an unacceptable scene, but one can’t look at that as any kind of reason for Stalling’s failure.
 
I know what happened at that press conference is a button for you and it was a an unacceptable scene, but one can’t look at that as any kind of reason for Stalling’s failure.
This one can and does. At least considers it as a possibility.
 
Maybe it was Stallings fault.

I know, I personally, would have immediately walked away from a job where the circumstances surrounding that job made my wife distraught enough to not accompany me to the city of that position.

I would have recognized that I would not have my heart in it under those circumstances. There would inevitably be resentment. My employee would never get my best effort.

Stallings was stealing money under those circumstances. Maybe he felt entitled to it?
 
I know what happened at that press conference is a button for you and it was a an unacceptable scene, but one can’t look at that as any kind of reason for Stalling’s failure.


If that presser was the cause of Stallings failing then he has to be probably the weakest minded coach in the history of D1 basketball.

"Oh no, what am I going to do, some reporter was mean to me at a press conference. I think I'm going to go into a shell and steal my employers money for as long as I can until they are forced to fire me."

And some people think that thief was a high character guy. Yeah. Sure.
 
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