If he is so mentally weak that he couldn’t do the job away from his family that he should have quit. Lots of people (myself included) have had to work in a separate city from their spouse for months or years. But we suck it up and do our job because it’s, you know, our job.
All of you who are so traumatized…
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I understand taking a job for financial reasons and spending time apart.
That is quite different than being apart because your wife felt you and your family were seriously disused and insulted. To add to that, there was a very inadequate response at pushing back and penalizing that behavior from the employer.
Someone who feels that way who is of high moral character doesn't steal money from their employer, they quit as a matter of principle.
Kevin Stallings tenure at Pitt was driven by one overriding factor. How much money can I suck out of these idiots before they have to fire me?
The presser wasn’t even mean to Stallings - it was mean to Barnes , which turned out for good reason .
Stallings is the worst coach we’ve ever had .
It’s not debatable -
But Gary will continue to defend him - because he’s an old bald white guy
I said I would have quit. Dan Dakich quit at WVU. (When he discovered an untenable situation)
Stallings should have quit ( and this is far from the first time I have stated that) We would all be at a better place.
Can I get any clearer?
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Entitled????? This isn’t some poor underpaid dude that works for UPMC or PNC, it is a guy making millions who had already made millions.
I literally can’t believe what I’m reading here
Then he has no integrity. So what exactly makes him deserving of any sympathy whatsoever?
Stallings didn’t deserve any fairness, and the fact you are still shilling for him four years later is absolutely crazy.
Everyone is pretty spot on. All these years later and you’re still carrying Stallings’ water. It’s truly unbelievable.
Maybe the press conference was a bit harsh, but the criticism of the hire was very fair. It would be like if the Steelers fired Tomlin and hired when edwards.
And to be fair stallings had a pretty solid team returning and immediately went out and had pitt’s worst year in his Millenium, including what was one of pitts most embarrassing losses of all time.
Like seriously, what In the hell is your problem?
The presser was harsh. Perhaps even a bit hostile. But so what. Boo effin hoo. The impact is nowhere even near what Gary continually tries to insist it was. He was a bum here who stole money, was terrible at cheating and got a show cause for it. Wade and Miller so far haven’t gotten one and this dolt got a show cause for what a would seem to be even lesser offenses. Stallings did an ok job for some time at Vandy. But near the end he had a couple potential NBA players and got bounced in the play in round. And was an absolute boob here. There’s very little to no defense. He was a failure in every sense of the word. And not because of some mean questions or the demeanor of the media that day. It’s silly.
I do agree that most people who would have taken the job had a tough act to follow. But Stallings was a grade A clown here on his own merits.
It wasn't the original offense, it was the coverup, the refusal to cooperate, and the instructing people to lie to the NCAA that got him the show cause.
Which, of course, are all things that high character people would have done.
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Yea understood. I still think Wade and Miller are worse but I get it. Plus like Tark said about giving Cleve St another year of probation because they’re mad at KY. Stallings deserved anything he got but was also an easy target/example.
Are you seriously comparing the show cause to guys like Wade & Miller? The show-cause was for lying to the NCAA over some minor stupid shit that was part of Heather's internal investigation. (Narduzzi was also guilty) Same as Bruce Pearl at Tennessee. Pearl was basically busted for having a recruits over to his house for a BBQ. He lied about it to the NCAA, resulting in a show cause. In both instances, the school knowingly threw the coach under the bus because they wanted them gone without paying a buyout. (TN negotiated a $900K deal for BP not to challenge the NCAA findings)
The school hired computer forensic experts
Pitt on Probation, Narduzzi to Miss Practices, Stallings Gets Show-Cause for NCAA Violations
Pitt will undergo three years of probation in football and men’s basketball, former basketball coach Kevin Stallings will have a three-year NCAA show cause order and both the football and men’s basketball teams will suffer losses in coaching and recruiting days as part of a settlement regarding...
pittsburghsportsnow.com
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Yea I understand that. And I’m saying Wade and Miller are worse. Way worse.
And what I’m also saying is if you use Bill Self being in that situation for example instead of Kevin Stallings I have a feeling the outcome would be different.
I try to be. I still think Stallings was a turd but I also know the NCAA isn’t exactly even handed in meting out punishment.
My problem isn’t with Stallings getting the hammer, it’s that I’m certain that others wouldn’t have gotten it had they done the exact same thing. And I don’t think there’s any amount of convincing that would make me think otherwise.
Because stallings wasn’t cooperating and orchestrated the cover up-The school hired computer forensic experts
Pitt on Probation, Narduzzi to Miss Practices, Stallings Gets Show-Cause for NCAA Violations
Pitt will undergo three years of probation in football and men’s basketball, former basketball coach Kevin Stallings will have a three-year NCAA show cause order and both the football and men’s basketball teams will suffer losses in coaching and recruiting days as part of a settlement regarding...
Hence - show cause and fired with cause
Imagine cheating and going winless with so many blowouts .
You have to be second level incompetent
It's a little different with Self. The school is willing to back him and make the NCAA fight.
Most every coach will lie to the NCAA to protect themselves and their school. Pitt was more than willing to throw Stallings under the bus. At Tennessee, Pearl was in front of the NCAA denying certain recruits were at his house while the school, behind his back, was providing the NCAA with pictures.
Unlike KU, Pitt & TN sided with the NCAA to rid themselves of their coach and avoid a buyout. Of course Kansas cares about their basketball program while Pitt and Tennessee have historically been disasters waiting to happen in college hoops.
I'd say it was a win win for Pitt. Of course you and Gary will cry about how unfairly poor old Kevin was treated.
It was a bush league move that made Pitt look cheap. They could have just acknowledged his 2 years was a disaster, canned his ass and sent him on his way. (the same common courtesy They will give Jeff Capel a few weeks from now, imo)
Anyone who knows what actually happened knows that the only bush league thing that happened was the guy who stole money from two year from Pitt until they had to fire his incompetent ass.
Why didn't Pitt turn him in to the authorities for embezzling money if your accusations are true?
Basically Pitt did turn him into the authorities and it cost the thief millions of dollars.
As you well know.
No. I don't know. I have no idea what the settlement amount was.
I'm just glad Heather did her homework on the next hire and she won't have to throw away millions to get out of a bad contract.
I can certainly understand why you'd want to pretend that, because of how bad it looks for your lord and savior, Kevin Stallings.
How about stop putting words in my mouth. I don't worship KS. S
Stallings did a nice job at Vandy and I enjoyed watching his teams play when I was in Nashville. I think he would have had similar results at Pitt if given time. I don't think that would have been acceptable either though. The 'Making the field of 68 with no chance to go anywhere' results that got him nudged out at Vandy are pretty much the same thing that got Jamie pushed out at Pitt
I'm just happy Pitt basketball is in capable hands today.
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You don’t agree it would have been difficult for any coach that followed Ben Howland?
Howland was here 4 years, Jamie 10
Then there is this
Jamie Dixon Plays Role Of Hero In Auto Wreck - Coach and Athletic Director
From the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review
winninghoops.com
There were many reasons Jamie was beloved.
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In house hire taking over a successful program with several key returnees playing in a brand spanking new state of the art arena?
That scenario isn't the worst. Regardless, it's not easy to keep a program at a high level as Dixon was able to do for his first 8 seasons at Pitt.
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