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And just like that...1st to 5th

If you look at ND's scores for that long losing streak before their Pitt win you will see they were really close to a win in most of those games and not getting blown out. So, they were overdue and Pitt was unlucky to catch them on Senior night and the retiring Brey's last home game. Then Pitt shoots 3s and FTs poorly and loses. Sh__ Happens!
 
If you look at ND's scores for that long losing streak before their Pitt win you will see they were really close to a win in most of those games and not getting blown out. So, they were overdue and Pitt was unlucky to catch them on Senior night and the retiring Brey's last home game. Then Pitt shoots 3s and FTs poorly and loses. Sh__ Happens!
Those are excuses. A team that wants to win a conference title and lock up an NCAA bid does not lose to a 2-16 team no matter where they play the game, and regardless of a coaches last game. The effort was sinful, and they should have lost by 20.
 
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Those are excuses. A team that wants to win a conference title and lock up an NCAA bid does not lose to a 2-16 team no matter where they play the game, and regardless of a coaches last game. The effort was sinful, and they should have lost by 20.

That's the frustrating part with this Pitt team. We're better than most teams in the ACC but we're not that good. Good teams beat 2-16 teams, no matter the circumstances. If they can't do that, they're not very good. Now I'm just hoping we get into the NCAAT and get a lucky draw and win at least 1 game. For this team, that's an accomplishment.
 
That's the frustrating part with this Pitt team. We're better than most teams in the ACC but we're not that good. Good teams beat 2-16 teams, no matter the circumstances. If they can't do that, they're not very good. Now I'm just hoping we get into the NCAAT and get a lucky draw and win at least 1 game. For this team, that's an accomplishment.
Michigan State got torpedoed by that 2-16 team, too.
 
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I thought during the game they showed a graphic that said they's be 3rd if they lost? I guess that depended on something else happening?
Depended on both Duke and Clemson losing. Both won. Both finished 14-6 like Pitt. Both beat Pitt so both had the tiebreaker in each case. With that... 1st to 5th (technically tied for 3rd if no tiebreaker is used).
 
That's true. However, they were not 2-16 when that happened, they were off to a good start. In addition, Michigan St. is an average big 10 team, which is to say a very average overall squad.
Why exactly does it matter that they were 6-1 at that point?
 
That's true. However, they were not 2-16 when that happened, they were off to a good start. In addition, Michigan St. is an average big 10 team, which is to say a very average overall squad.
So Notre Dame was winning games before they started the more difficult part of their schedule. It’s not like they’re a bad team - they got off to a good start and struggled in conference play. And Michigan State isn’t really even a bubble team. They’re a tournament team - they’re not a contender or anything, but they’re a good win.
 
So Notre Dame was winning games before they started the more difficult part of their schedule. It’s not like they’re a bad team - they got off to a good start and struggled in conference play. And Michigan State isn’t really even a bubble team. They’re a tournament team - they’re not a contender or anything, but they’re a good win.


They got off to a good start because they played Radford, Youngstown State, Southern Illinois, Lipscomb and Bowling Green to start the season.

So far this season Notre Dame is 2-13 against the top 122 in the Pomeroy ratings (Syracuse is 122, so them and everyone ranked higher than them). After those two wins against us and Michigan State, their next best win is against Youngstown State. And after that, Lipscomb.

It not LIKE Notre Dame is a bad team. Notre Dame IS a bad team.
 
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