Another Good Synopis On Facing Moorhead Offense For Pitt Game, LINK!

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

Mark Wogenrich of the Allentown Morning Calls article favors Pitt beating PSU but outlines how much this 'Moohead Offense" will be with less needed OL holding blocks longer. It also compliments Pitt Roots and Coaching. The big question asked is whether Trace McSorley can take the pounding of hits over the game and season?

Additionally, Radio Commentators around State College are admitting the most frequent question asked of them is how long does Franklin last at Penn State? They project another 6-6 Season and stated all New Assistants only were given 2 year contracts? This is an indication they have to produce now and in 2017?

Excerpt:
Moorhead first studied West Coast concepts at Pitt in the late 1990s, when he was a graduate assistant for coach Walt Harris. He began developing his own system at Akron, where he served as offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach from 2006-08. Moorhead likes tempo and pressure and giving his quarterback run-pass options. His offense will run plays quickly, using sideline signals from graduate assistants and backup quarterbacks. Moorhead considers "huddle" and "punting" to be "dirty words," Franklin said.
"Where our challenges came were, we had a young, inexperienced line on an offense that was really driven around the offensive line," Franklin said. "Now we're running a system that's going to take some of the pressure off the offensive line............
"Accuracy is more important than arm strength, but you have to be able to throw the ball long," Moorhead said. "The quarterback has to be athletic and create plays with his feet, whether by design or when a play breaks down."...............
"It's not about running the wrong play quickly," Moorhead said. "It's about running the right play against the look presented as quickly as we can. Some games line up at the pace we want to play, which is as fast as possible. And there's some games where we have to use some of our different tempos.
LINK:
http://www.mcall.com/sports/college...tball-2016-season-preview-20160827-story.html

 

[Jeffburgh]

It certainly SHOULD be to the Panthers advantage that they are now in the year two of the Duzz defense, while PSU is transitioning both offensive system and QB ...

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

It certainly SHOULD be to the Panthers advantage that they are now in the year two of the Duzz defense, while PSU is transitioning both offensive system and QB ...

You hit upon what i consider is the unknown, everyone thinks Trace McSorley will just adapt well and with all the Players on game one, but they say Moorhead's offense requires 5 to 6 games to understand and adapt and that is the question? Will it become an instant success or season long struggle? If it is an Instant Success the Lions cane easily go 9-3 or better? If it is a season long struggle they could go 3-9, 4-8, 5-7 and that means Franklin is even more trouble? By preparing the PSU Fans for 6-6, 7-6, they think Franklin's get one more year but that year will have to be 8-4.

The Radio Snipers say it is hard to replace a Legend and Bama, USC, OSU, and OU, Michigan and ND all had trouble finding that right coach and it took more then 1-4 mistakes to find that coach as Fans are just too attached to past winning to accept a New Coach.

In an ironic twists of fates and by the Cult trying to hold onto Paterno Legacy they are undermining their current and future one? Franklin is under a lot of pressure to perform with very little room for failure.

 

[chethejet]

Tell me again how this guy became the top OC of all time. He coached at Fordham. He is facing a div 1 defense for the first time in years. He has a inexperience QB and a system that is based on quick reads. Really may I remind everyone he scored 13 points in two years against Villanova.

Compare that to Canada. OC at Wisconsin and NC ST with great success. Anyone think he won't be very good with Pitts talent and OL. Night and day boys. the PSU OC may be good down the road. But he will need time to see what he has and is playing against top caliber players.

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

"chethejet, post: 1529159, member: 4178"]Tell me again how this guy became the top OC of all time. He coached at Fordham. He is facing a div 1 defense for the first time in years. He has a inexperience QB and a system that is based on quick reads. Really may I remind everyone he scored 13 points in two years against Villanova.
Good post and thanks!

I have no clue and why I have posted so many Articles so I can learn from others. I can tell you the pressure on Moorhead will be double on Franklin, because JM has only 2 Contract. This is another indication that PSU Old Main lack confidence in Franklin right now.

On the other hand, I can tell you to be wary of those quiet calm coaches, like Walt Harris, Paul Chryst, and Jim Chaney they are thinkers and not blinkers, you give them Talent they can make it happen. Joe Moorhead is in that vain of quiet confidence and he has Talent to work with this year. The problem is Franklin is still on the Sidelines and is QB/OC Talker more than a Coach? The way i see it Moorhead won't be there long whether he succeed and leaves? I think Moorhead is using Franklin and Franklin is totally dependent on Moorhead Succeeding and soon?

I predict if 3-9, 4-8 or 5-7, both can be gone, Losses are expected from OSU, Michigan, MSU, and Iowa, wins against Pitt & Temple are no gimmes, but they lose to a few Minnesota, Rutgers, Maryland, or Indiana, that spells doom for Jimmy FakeIn? Especially if it is Matt Rhule that beats PSU again.

Compare that to Canada. OC at Wisconsin and NC ST with great success. Anyone think he won't be very good with Pitts talent and OL. Night and day boys. The PSU OC may be good down the road. But he will need time to see what he has and is playing against top caliber players.
We shall soon see and OC Canada needs Healthy & Executable Peterman all season long too.

 

[Chescat]

I'm not trying to "rain" on this thread, but everything at this point is pure guess work. I won't
even bother to speculate until AFTER game one. We will know more about us after Nova,
but maybe even more important is what we'll know of the Nits after they play Kent State.
Kent State supposedly has a decent (that is decent for a MAC school) defense. The Nits
undoubtedly will move the ball on them, and should score just on the talent difference alone.
BTW, Kent ST. is not predicted to do all that well in the MAC based on a not too good offense.
We should be able to see if PSU has adapted to Moorehouse's offense. I'll be watching to
see if their timing, cohesion, play calling, etc. is in place. We know PSU has excellent talent
at the skill positions with questions on the O Line and QB positions.
If K. State lights it up against them on offense, then the Nits are in trouble this year. Although
not the greatest predictor, this game should give us some insight into our Sept. 10th clash.

 

[pittdan77]

'Moohead Offense" will be with less needed OL holding blocks longer.

Uh huh...meaning passes will be under ten yards and there will be a lot of zone blocking as the offense tries to win with numbers at the point of attack.

Speed always kills this kind of offense. That's why there is nothing like it in the NFL.

 

[pittengineer75]

The last time Moorehead was an offensive coordinator (at UConn), they removed that title from him and demoted him.

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

Uh huh...meaning passes will be under ten yards and there will be a lot of zone blocking as the offense tries to win with numbers at the point of attack.

Speed always kills this kind of offense. That's why there is nothing like it in the NFL.

Great point and someone finally said it! My only worry, no missed tackles!

 

[Panthergrowl13]

Sounds to me like they are taking a page from Mr. "HIGH OCTANE".

Their new DC is the recently promoted LB coach.

If the Penn State Offense does not perform well will the Penn State faithful start a chant:

Moorehead
Moorehead
Moorehead
Moorehead

to voice their displeasure.



HAIL TO PITT

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

The last time Moorehead was an offensive coordinator (at UConn), the removed that title from him and demoted him.

Is that true?

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

="Panthergrowl13, post: 1529360, member: 1182"]Sounds to me like they are taking a page from Mr. "HIGH OCTANE".

Their new DC is the recently promoted LB coach.

If the Penn State Offense does not perform well will the Penn State faithful start a chant:

Moorehead
Moorehead
Moorehead
Moorehead

to show voice their displeasure.
I thought the same thing, Grham went into great fanfare about his No Huddle but by the time the season was in its 3rd game, he was running Wannstedt Pro Set, while messing with Sunseri Mind and blaming him?

Moorhead has better character and in fact so do most 127 FBS Coaches?

Toad GraHAM that knows how to Scram!

I think he will continue to wilt in the Arizona Desert! Just a Hunch!



HAIL TO PITT

 

[eastcoasthoops]

Is that true?

Yes. When Paul Pasqualoni became the HC at UConn he installed his own OC and Moorhead was demoted to QB coach.

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

Yes. When Paul Pasqualoni became the HC at UConn he instilled his own OC and Moorhead was demoted to QB coach.

Thanks for that Info, they said Franklin met Moorhead in Pittsburgh and later at Fordham during the Bowl Game? So it wasn't like Franklin did a big search? By blaming and firing his old OC and losing 2 more Coaches Franklin had little time to replace them?

The Game I want to see is Minnesota and how they react and compete against their Fired OC-OLC Limegrover? If PSU loses that game, could be a bad year?

Looking at Moorhead's first year at Fordham Link Below, his offense was up and down every other game.

He also had trouble beating Villanova all 4 years! After the Nova Game, Narduzzi can learn a lot from that game?

LINK;
http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/active/f/fordham/2010-2014_yearly_results.php

 

[Jeffburgh]

You hit upon what i consider is the unknown, everyone thinks Trace McSorley will just adapt well and with all the Players on game one, but they say Moorhead's offense requires 5 to 6 games to understand and adapt and that is the question? Will it become an instant success or season long struggle? If it is an Instant Success the Lions cane easily go 9-3 or better? If it is a season long struggle they could go 3-9, 4-8, 5-7 and that means Franklin is even more trouble? By preparing the PSU Fans for 6-6, 7-6, they think Franklin's get one more year but that year will have to be 8-4.

The Radio Snipers say it is hard to replace a Legend and Bama, USC, OSU, and OU, Michigan and ND all had trouble finding that right coach and it took more then 1-4 mistakes to find that coach as Fans are just too attached to past winning to accept a New Coach.

In an ironic twists of fates and by the Cult trying to hold onto Paterno Legacy they are undermining their current and future one? Franklin is under a lot of pressure to perform with very little room for failure.

I think chances are clearly greater that they have some growing pains if it takes at all.

If so and their record suffers Franklin will do what he does, try to reset the clock again, despite his bluster using the offensive transition as an excuse.

However, I suspect the fan base could get real ugly on him if this season crapes out for them.

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

I think chances are clearly greater that they have some growing pains if it takes at all.

If so and their record suffers Franklin will do what he does, try to reset the clock again, despite his bluster using the offensive transition as an excuse.

However, I suspect the fan base could get real ugly on him if this season crapes out for them.

I will leave to others that know far more, but the way I see it, how McSorley handles all those Big Hits from Pitt, Michigan, Maryland, Ohio State, Iowa, and MSU will be the key PSU's season. These DC's will be smashing him when he runs and although I see great confidence in Trace's Face, but that is one long season making him a target?

Half-Time Adjustments is what has not been seen at PSU in 2 years?

He will have a new nickname by the end of season.....McSOREly!

 

[Pantherman43]

Speed always kills this kind of offense. That's why there is nothing like it in the NFL.

Not to mention solid defensive lines. Look at what Stanford does to Oregon. At this level almost everyone can run.

 

[88Pitt88]

I would not want to be Trace McSorely or Moorhead for that matter. There is so much pressure on the two of them to save that program, and save Franklin a job. Moorhead will be the scapegoat if it doesn't work out, but they are heaping a ton of pressure on McSorely. While he is not small and is a pretty good athlete, they also expect him to run the ball alot. This will put him in Jeopardy many more times than a dropback QB would be. Every team they play will focus on beating the snot out of him as a way to derail that system. Let's face it, he is the best they have to run it, and if they lose him at any point in the season, they will be fortunate to win 7 games.

I have seen enough of the spread to know that the QB makes it go no matter how good the skill players are. Ped St. will need him to survive and stay healthy to be successful, so he must walk that fine line of knowing when to get down and knowing when to take a hit.
He has a chance to be the hero at Ped St. but I wouldn't want the pressure that is going to come with it. The odds are stacked against him lasting the season, and their future is totally dependent on him.

 

[LuvDaLions]

I agree about a lot of what is said in this thread, we'll definately have some growing pains, and I'm sure it's going to take some time for the offense to come up to speed. and yes, we still have some major concerns about the OL. The one thing you're dead wrong about is that Franklin is "on the hot seat". The administration knows the hand he was dealt when he came in and fully expect it to take some time for him to rebuild the program. Barring a catastrophic season (i.e. 2 - 3 wins), Franklin's seat isn't even getting warm yet (forget about all the "opinion" pieces you read in the papers, they are simply opinions and are completely false). I think most people involved with the program know that it won't be until at least next year (if not the year after) before Penn State is in an equal footing with with the teams we're playing. Sure, our scholorship numbers are finally up (we're currently at 80 players), but the vast majority of them still have freshman or sophmore eligibility. Most succssful teams are heavily laden with upperclassmen. I think it will be two more years before we'll finally be able to evaluate whether Franklin is a good coach or not.

 

[Pantherman43]

I would not want to be Trace McSorely or Moorhead for that matter. There is so much pressure on the two of them to save that program, and save Franklin a job. Moorhead will be the scapegoat if it doesn't work out, but they are heaping a ton of pressure on McSorely. While he is not small and is a pretty good athlete, they also expect him to run the ball alot. This will put him in Jeopardy many more times than a dropback QB would be. Every team they play will focus on beating the snot out of him as a way to derail that system. Let's face it, he is the best they have to run it, and if they lose him at any point in the season, they will be fortunate to win 7 games.

I have seen enough of the spread to know that the QB makes it go no matter how good the skill players are. Ped St. will need him to survive and stay healthy to be successful, so he must walk that fine line of knowing when to get down and knowing when to take a hit.
He has a chance to be the hero at Ped St. but I wouldn't want the pressure that is going to come with it. The odds are stacked against him lasting the season, and their future is totally dependent on him.

Let's be honest here. In typical Franklin fashion, he set up maybe unreasonable expectations for McSorley and this offense by loading up teams in their spring game.

I know several nit supporters who were not expecting much going into the spring who now expect 8-9 wins this year based on what they saw from the spring.

 

[Pantherman43]

The one thing you're dead wrong about is that Franklin is "on the hot seat". The administration knows the hand he was dealt when he came in and fully expect it to take some time for him to rebuild the program. Barring a catastrophic season (i.e. 2 - 3 wins), Franklin's seat isn't even getting warm yet (forget about all the "opinion" pieces you read in the papers, they are simply opinions and are completely false).

I agree with this. I don't think he seat becomes warm until 2017 and won't be replaced after this year unless this season is a total failure (3 or 4 wins and getting blown out regularly).

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

"LuvDaLions, post: 1529750, member: 12696"]I agree about a lot of what is said in this thread, we'll definately have some growing pains, and I'm sure it's going to take some time for the offense to come up to speed. and yes, we still have some major concerns about the OL.
Agree, but PSU is loaded with Underclassmen and with much talent!

The one thing you're dead wrong about is that Franklin is "on the hot seat".
Hot Seat not yet but at the Cross Roads. Most Publications have him Warm but not Hot, just yet! CFN just rated him 27 out of 128 On Hot Meter!

The administration knows the hand he was dealt when he came in and fully expect it to take some time for him to rebuild the program. Barring a catastrophic season (i.e. 2 - 3 wins), Franklin's seat isn't even getting warm yet (forget about all the "opinion" pieces you read in the papers, they are simply opinions and are completely false).
Even you admit he could be on the Hot Seat if he goes 3 Wins?
Opinions, are not false or true, if so you just made one he loses 9 games?
Do you expect an Extension this year?

I think most people involved with the program know that it won't be until at least next year (if not the year after) before Penn State is in an equal footing with with the teams we're playing.
So, no Extension until 2018?

Franklin is at 44.4% of his 6 Year Contract of $27.75 million Guaranteed Money goes up $750,000, Dec. 31, 2019. Plus over $1 Million in Bonuses Wins Seasons, Conferences Championship, Bowls, and other Incentives.

Sure, our scholorship numbers are finally up (we're currently at 80 players), but the vast majority of them still have freshman or sophmore eligibility. Most succssful teams are heavily laden with upperclassmen.
Agree so what is your Prediction this year in 2016?
2017 Season Projection?
2018 Season Projection?

I think it will be two more years before we'll finally be able to evaluate whether Franklin is a good coach or not.
There are severe remaining realism of the Penn State Football Program Sanction Era:
On The GridIron:
1. Many Walk-Ons
2. Still At 80 Scholarships
3. New OC, DC, OLC and DBC
4. No Extensions & Assistants 2 Year Contracts
5. Out Recruiting & Beating OSU, Michigan, Iowa, & MSU.

Off The Girdiron:
1. Public Court Civil & Criminal & Administrative Cases
2. New President and Athletic Director
3. New Facilities
4. Divided Trustees & Alumni Fan Base
5. Negative Recruiting

Very fair comments, CFN has PSU going 9-3 in 2016, if that happens, I think he gets an Extension this year?
Good Luck!

 

[HOF Coach]

Slippin' Jimmy will end the year 5-7 and with "FOR SALE" signs in his front yard.