Another late season collapse

[gary2]

for men's soccer.

Try to win every game 1-0 wears on you. At the end of the season, those 1 goal allowed games become 3 and 4.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

for men's soccer.

Try to win every game 1-0 wears on you. At the end of the season, those 1 goal allowed games become 3 and 4.

They have been hemorrhaging goals lately. Unfortunately, they are probably done.

 

[ThePanthers]

They still dont have a roster than can compete in the acc. They are getting closer but when they get into the meat of the conference games is at the end of the season. The Cleveland st game sucked. It takes a long time to build a program especially one with no history like pitt

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

They still dont have a roster than can compete in the acc. They are getting closer but when they get into the meat of the conference games is at the end of the season. The Cleveland st game sucked. It takes a long time to build a program especially one with no history like pitt

The problem is how ridiculously good the ACC is. I remember Jamie Dixon saying when he and Howland were building the program that for them to rise up, they didn't just need to improve, they needed other teams to fall back and if you remember, the Big East wasnt very good in those early H-D days. The year we won our first BET, we only got 3-4 teams in. Think about that. Nova was in the Lappas/Wright transition. Gtown saw the Esherick era. Syr was down. WVU sucked, etc.

ACC soccer, nobody is getting any worse. You basically have 12 of the best 20-25 teams and 8 of the best 10-12 so you really cant get enough wins. The league is too good for Pitt. In some ways, I wonder if Pitt men's basketball will face something similar as Capel tries to build. It will be great if he improves the talent level but we also need the VT's, ND's, Miami's, FSU's, etc to fall back

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

The problem is how ridiculously good the ACC is. I remember Jamie Dixon saying when he and Howland were building the program that for them to rise up, they didn't just need to improve, they needed other teams to fall back and if you remember, the Big East wasnt very good in those early H-D days. The year we won our first BET, we only got 3-4 teams in. Think about that. Nova was in the Lappas/Wright transition. Gtown saw the Esherick era. Syr was down. WVU sucked, etc.

ACC soccer, nobody is getting any worse. You basically have 12 of the best 20-25 teams and 8 of the best 10-12 so you really cant get enough wins. The league is too good for Pitt. In some ways, I wonder if Pitt men's basketball will face something similar as Capel tries to build. It will be great if he improves the talent level but we also need the VT's, ND's, Miami's, FSU's, etc to fall back

I told you at the beginning of the season that we could be the 30th best team in the country and we wouldn't make the NCAA tournament because with the schedule we play we'd end up with a losing record. And low and behold, that's pretty much exactly how it's played out.

The problem isn't that we are trying to win every game 1-0. The problem is that we play too many games against team that are better than we are.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

The problem is how ridiculously good the ACC is. I remember Jamie Dixon saying when he and Howland were building the program that for them to rise up, they didn't just need to improve, they needed other teams to fall back and if you remember, the Big East wasnt very good in those early H-D days. The year we won our first BET, we only got 3-4 teams in. Think about that. Nova was in the Lappas/Wright transition. Gtown saw the Esherick era. Syr was down. WVU sucked, etc.

ACC soccer, nobody is getting any worse. You basically have 12 of the best 20-25 teams and 8 of the best 10-12 so you really cant get enough wins. The league is too good for Pitt. In some ways, I wonder if Pitt men's basketball will face something similar as Capel tries to build. It will be great if he improves the talent level but we also need the VT's, ND's, Miami's, FSU's, etc to fall back

I told you at the beginning of the season that we could be the 30th best team in the country and we wouldn't make the NCAA tournament because with the schedule we play we'd end up with a losing record. And low and behold, that's pretty much exactly how it's played out.

The problem isn't that we are trying to win every game 1-0. The problem is that we play too many games against team that are better than we are.

Yea, I didn't disagree but just the nature of the sport, I figured some of those will go our way and they haven't. You'd have a hard time convincing me there are 25 teams better than us but that doesn't matter. There are just too many good teams.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

The problem is how ridiculously good the ACC is. I remember Jamie Dixon saying when he and Howland were building the program that for them to rise up, they didn't just need to improve, they needed other teams to fall back and if you remember, the Big East wasnt very good in those early H-D days. The year we won our first BET, we only got 3-4 teams in. Think about that. Nova was in the Lappas/Wright transition. Gtown saw the Esherick era. Syr was down. WVU sucked, etc.

ACC soccer, nobody is getting any worse. You basically have 12 of the best 20-25 teams and 8 of the best 10-12 so you really cant get enough wins. The league is too good for Pitt. In some ways, I wonder if Pitt men's basketball will face something similar as Capel tries to build. It will be great if he improves the talent level but we also need the VT's, ND's, Miami's, FSU's, etc to fall back

I told you at the beginning of the season that we could be the 30th best team in the country and we wouldn't make the NCAA tournament because with the schedule we play we'd end up with a losing record. And low and behold, that's pretty much exactly how it's played out.

The problem isn't that we are trying to win every game 1-0. The problem is that we play too many games against team that are better than we are.

Yea, I didn't disagree but just the nature of the sport, I figured some of those will go our way and they haven't. You'd have a hard time convincing me there are 25 teams better than us but that doesn't matter. There are just too many good teams in the ACC.

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

Yea, I didn't disagree but just the nature of the sport, I figured some of those will go our way and they haven't. You'd have a hard time convincing me there are 25 teams better than us but that doesn't matter. There are just too many good teams in the ACC.

We really need to lighten up the non-conference schedule a little bit next year. Because of the conference the strength of schedule will be more than good enough if we can get above .500 to make the tournament.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

Yea, I didn't disagree but just the nature of the sport, I figured some of those will go our way and they haven't. You'd have a hard time convincing me there are 25 teams better than us but that doesn't matter. There are just too many good teams in the ACC.

We really need to lighten up the non-conference schedule a little bit next year. Because of the conference the strength of schedule will be more than good enough if we can get above .500 to make the tournament.

The Colgate game was dumb to start the year. That was a veteran tournament-savvy team. They are currently #28 in the RPI. We did beat #46 VCU, who is on the NCAAT bubble and Columbia, who is #70 and has been a good RPI win 2 years in a row. I guess you could say we shouldn't have played Akron but I think they are trying to make that into a regional "derby" type game. Then you have WVU, who is ranked #34.

Really, the non-con hasn't gone too bad outside of the Cleveland State debacle, which was a smart game to play but we played them a man down for most of the game.

I would keep Akron, WVU, and add in PSU. Probably play low-level programs Duquesne and RMU. Maybe add in 2 winnable RPI games (Colgate, Columbia, VCU) and play crap teams the rest