Anybody have a legit assessment of QB outlook for next year?

[jimmoyer]

I've heard some interesting analysis regarding our QB prospects for next year, but does anybody have any real knowledge as to where we stand? Are we going to be in a struggle to get some quality production from this position? Would love to get some solid insight regarding our future QB's
Thanks

 

[thebadby2]

I've heard some interesting analysis regarding our QB prospects for next year, but does anybody have any real knowledge as to where we stand? Are we going to be in a struggle to get some quality production from this position? Would love to get some solid insight regarding our future QB's
Thanks

Would not be surprised to see a grad transfer come in to allow MacVittie another year to develop. Canada has made this a pretty attractive option for the right grad QB.

 

[ratking17]

I have a suspicion that Mac is going to light it up under this offense

 

[WCSordill]

I have a suspicion that Mac is going to light it up under this offense

There's still Bo Schneider to think about.

 

[chethejet]

Mac V has the tools to be a really good QB. Canada will bring him along and will ask him to do a couple of things well before expanding his play. He is raw in a sense, but his work ethic and size, speed and arm are worth investing in. He will be surrounded with enough talent to develop into a really good QB. He is 6-5 and probably 225 or so. He runs a 4.6 forty and that is a great package. Peterman is a big help to him and he saw what it takes to be that guy.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

There's still Bo Schneider to think about.

Its his job to lose. He started several games at UCF and played reasonably well at South Carolina. MacVittie has played strikingly little football that I cant imagine he will be ready.

 

[oldpantherfan]

Bring in another better one !!!! We keep bringing in transfers starting to look like the pirates.
McVittie is not the answer if he was Schneider wouldn't be here.
As I said before if he was that good why didn't Chaney try to lure him to Georgia ?
Pitt needs to go all out to get a serious freshman QB who can start freshman or redshirt freshman year.

 

[yourhired]

None of us have been observing MacVitte in practice except the coaches so let's hold off on judgments on can he play or not play I think Matt Canada might know. Why he didn't follow Chaney to Georgia well Georgia had the commitment of the top QB in the country Jacob Eason who is the starting for Georgia.

 

[PhPanther1]

Bring in another better one !!!! We keep bringing in transfers starting to look like the pirates.
McVittie is not the answer if he was Schneider wouldn't be here.
As I said before if he was that good why didn't Chaney try to lure him to Georgia ?
Pitt needs to go all out to get a serious freshman QB who can start freshman or redshirt freshman year.

Because they wanted a better backup than DiNucci (who couldn't beat out Manny Stocker) or a true freshman Pickett?

 

[Jakey_John]

Bring in another better one !!!! We keep bringing in transfers starting to look like the pirates.
McVittie is not the answer if he was Schneider wouldn't be here.
As I said before if he was that good why didn't Chaney try to lure him to Georgia ?
Pitt needs to go all out to get a serious freshman QB who can start freshman or redshirt freshman year.

I think Chaney did try to get him. LSU wanted him too.

 

[thebadby2]

Bring in another better one !!!! We keep bringing in transfers starting to look like the pirates.
McVittie is not the answer if he was Schneider wouldn't be here.
As I said before if he was that good why didn't Chaney try to lure him to Georgia ?
Pitt needs to go all out to get a serious freshman QB who can start freshman or redshirt freshman year.

Those comments are out of line. MacVittie is a freshman, and with very rare exceptions, freshman QBs don't start. He is our QB of the future. But he won;t be ready next year. Schneider was brought in because we have no experienced depth or competition at QB. Why didn't Chaney try to lure T-Mac to UGA? Maybe because they already had a commitment from Eason, the top QB prospect in the country.

We do need to recruit the position harder, something that hasn't been done since Walt was coach.

 

[thebadby2]

I think Chaney did try to get him. LSU wanted him too.

Chaney didn't tray to take TMAC. Georgia had already promised Eason they wouldn't offer another QB in the 2016 class.

 

[Pitt Law '04]

Bring in another better one !!!! We keep bringing in transfers starting to look like the pirates.
McVittie is not the answer if he was Schneider wouldn't be here.
As I said before if he was that good why didn't Chaney try to lure him to Georgia ?
Pitt needs to go all out to get a serious freshman QB who can start freshman or redshirt freshman year.

Weren't you the guy on here earlier this season telling us Matt Canada stunk as an offensive coordinator?

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

I would be pretty surprised if we didnt go all in for some grad transfers.

And any grad transfer has to look at Pitt with a UCF transfer who was so-so there, a RS FR who only played QB for a couple varsity games, and a lowly rated QB who chose us over Penn....and think he can play right away.

What about JJ Cosentino from Florida State and Central Catholic?

 

[DC_Area_Panther]

Mac V has the tools to be a really good QB. Canada will bring him along and will ask him to do a couple of things well before expanding his play. He is raw in a sense, but his work ethic and size, speed and arm are worth investing in. He will be surrounded with enough talent to develop into a really good QB. He is 6-5 and probably 225 or so. He runs a 4.6 forty and that is a great package. Peterman is a big help to him and he saw what it takes to be that guy.

MacViitie was the guy wearing the earphones on the sideline during the Cuse game. He is clearly being groomed to be the #1 at some point.

 

[Swervin27]

In Ben we trust.

 

[CaptainMurphy]

Between MacVittie and Schneider I think we will be fine. Schneider is no slouch. He honestly looks a lot like Peterman to me (maybe Peterman-lite)...comparable size and arm strength. Good accuracy, limited mobility but decent pocket presence and seems to keep his eyes downfield even when he is scrambling. He had a decent offer sheet out of HS and although he struggled as a freshman, so did Peterman. I think MacVittie is our starter from day 1 next year but Schneider looks to be a very solid backup and safety net (something we really lacked this year).

 

[pittzap]

When I watched video of MacVittie after he committed, he is not the QB I thought he was. I figured he was a pro style QB - stays in the pocket and reads the field - since he was a big dude. He is not. He has a good arm with touch, and he can really run. I was very surprised. There were a lot of plays where he kept the ball and gained big yardage.

Of course we have no idea if that will transfer to college, as he hasn't been a QB for several years. But he did play one of the toughest schedules in Ohio his senior year. Take a look at his video from high school.

Here's one:

 

[Black Panther]

Its his job to lose. He started several games at UCF and played reasonably well at South Carolina. MacVittie has played strikingly little football that I cant imagine he will be ready.

And from I saw of him he's similar to Peterman.Probably could run the O the same way.

 

[steel_curtain]

Those comments are out of line. MacVittie is a freshman, and with very rare exceptions, freshman QBs don't start. He is our QB of the future. But he won;t be ready next year. Schneider was brought in because we have no experienced depth or competition at QB. Why didn't Chaney try to lure T-Mac to UGA? Maybe because they already had a commitment from Eason, the top QB prospect in the country.

We do need to recruit the position harder, something that hasn't been done since Walt was coach.

Florida State started a freshmen QB- 3200 Pass Yards, with 22 TD's

Duke Started a freshmen QB- 2900 yards with 23TD's

-Thats just the ACC this year. Gone are the days of freshmen staying on the bench.

-TMAC was our #2 QB before camp was over as a true non redshirt freshmen

 

[#99HUGHgreen]

MacVittie not starting would really surprise me.

He has all of the tools and has worked with and learned from Canada in practice for a year.

I've have posted my feeling that he looks special and will be the starter once Nat graduates.

Someone who believes the starting job is Bo Schneider's to lose please help me undersrand why a QB who threw 7 INTs and only 2 TDs on an abysmal 0-12 UCF team in 2015 should be considered the front runner.

 

[Jakey_John]

Chaney didn't tray to take TMAC. Georgia had already promised Eason they wouldn't offer another QB in the 2016 class.

My mistake... as for the guys saying MacVittie won't be ready that's pure conjecture at this point. Schneider was available so why not take him? Chaney was good enough that a second tier SEC team wanted him and I don't think it's unreasonable to think that one of his QB recruits will be successful after being in a particular system for a year.

 

[CaptainMurphy]

MacVittie not starting would really surprise me.

He has all of the tools and has worked with and learned from Canada in practice for a year.

I've have posted my feeling that he looks special and will be the starter once Nat graduates.

Someone who believes the starting job is Bo's Schneider's to lose please help me undersrand why a QB who threw 7 INTs and only 2 TDs on an abysmal 0-12 UCF team in 2015 should be considered the front runner.

No clue about Schneider's 2015 numbers. He doesn't look exceptionally mobile so perhaps they had a crap line? I'd imagine there were lots of decent reasons considering that team was 0-12. Probably not a ton of talent on that team. Nate Peterman's freshman numbers at Tennessee were actually worse (he threw two picks in ten pass attempts). Schneider threw seven picks in 105 attempts. I'm not saying Schneider is Peterman but I'm not going to judge based on a small sample size during his freshman year.

 

[Swervin27]

When Dinucci is named starter, I don't want any of you guys telling me that you've been calling this all along.. Fair?

 

[Pittx9]

When Dinucci is named starter, I don't want any of you guys telling me that you've been calling this all along.. Fair?

I was very pleased we signed him and from day one I hoped he would become a great starting QB here. Odd delivery and with MacVittie and Schneider now I don't know if he ever will start. But there was definitely a point in time I had much higher hopes for him than most. We will see how he does in camp next season.

 

[thebadby2]

MacVittie not starting would really surprise me.

He has all of the tools and has worked with and learned from Canada in practice for a year.

I've have posted my feeling that he looks special and will be the starter once Nat graduates.

Someone who believes the starting job is Bo's Schneider's to lose please help me undersrand why a QB who threw 7 INTs and only 2 TDs on an abysmal 0-12 UCF team in 2015 should be considered the front runner.

It's all pure conjecture at this point. It will be an open competition. The guy who emerges will start. I'd say Schneider probably has an edge just based on maturity going into the spring, but that doesn't mean much.

 

[thebadby2]

Florida State started a freshmen QB- 3200 Pass Yards, with 22 TD's

Duke Started a freshmen QB- 2900 yards with 23TD's

-Thats just the ACC this year. Gone are the days of freshmen staying on the bench.

-TMAC was our #2 QB before camp was over as a true non redshirt freshmen

TMAC was our #2 QB before camp was over as a true non redshirt freshmen

Correct--but the only guy he had to beat out for #2 was DiNucci.

 

[Swervin27]

I'd say I would be excited as heck to watch this competition unfold in spring ball and summer but we won't get any damn details so I'll just say, I cant wait for the first game to see who our starter is..

 

[Jpripper88]

TMAC was our #2 QB before camp was over as a true non redshirt freshmen

Correct--but the only guy he had to beat out for #2 was DiNucci.

Please stop using logic. steel's head is going to explode.

 

[Chescat]

IMO looking at TMac's film he certainly has the athletic ability and his arm looks very good. He
might even be better in both those categories than Peterman...BUT, and this is a big BUT....can he
manage the offense as well, read the defense, and make the in game decisions as well. My guess is not at this point (1st yr starting). Those areas usually take time and experience...real game experience.
On the other hand, what Canada has been able to accomplish with Peterman was amazing.
Peterman was somewhat of a question mark coming into this year, and many of us weren't expecting anything like his sr. yr. production. His intangibles were his strong point, and I give Canada much credit for that. So with that said, I wouldn't be surprised with what Canada can
do with TMac, especially having him in the system and working with him for a year.
Schneider???...who knows, maybe Canada can do the same with him too.

 

[#99HUGHgreen]

No clue about Schneider's 2015 numbers. He doesn't look exceptionally mobile so perhaps they had a crap line? I'd imagine there were lots of decent reasons considering that team was 0-12. Probably not a ton of talent on that team. Nate Peterman's freshman numbers at Tennessee were actually worse (he threw two picks in ten pass attempts). Schneider threw seven picks in 105 attempts. I'm not saying Schneider is Peterman but I'm not going to judge based on a small sample size during his freshman year.

I think we may be on the same page. Just for the record, I was not suggesting Bo could not develop into a really good college quarterback. Just that he hasn't played all that well so far at the college level.

Peterman came from Tennessee - a big time SEC program In a top conference. Almost every game is against a very good opponent. Bo was the backup to a terrible QB (7TDs 14INTs) on a winless team in a much weaker conference. It just seems like a bit of a stretch to suggest he would be the obvious front runner to start next year.

 

[BuffetParrothead]

There's still Bo Schneider to think about.

Anybody with first name of Bo deserves a shot at the job.

 

[thebadby2]

IMO looking at TMac's film he certainly has the athletic ability and his arm looks very good. He
might even be better in both those categories than Peterman...BUT, and this is a big BUT....can he
manage the offense as well, read the defense, and make the in game decisions as well. My guess is not at this point (1st yr starting). Those areas usually take time and experience...real game experience.
On the other hand, what Canada has been able to accomplish with Peterman was amazing.
Peterman was somewhat of a question mark coming into this year, and many of us weren't expecting anything like his sr. yr. production. His intangibles were his strong point, and I give Canada much credit for that. So with that said, I wouldn't be surprised with what Canada can
do with TMac, especially having him in the system and working with him for a year.
Schneider???...who knows, maybe Canada can do the same with him too.

Posters won't like this, but it's just the reality of things-if TMAC starts next year, you'll likely see the play-calling get watered down somewhat until he matures. Once again, that's why after he was hired Canada told one of our posters that met him in the airport that "If Nathan Peterman stays healthy, we're going to score a lot of points." He knew Nate had the maturity and experience to run this offense. QB is not plug and play, with rare exceptions.

 

[bobfree]

Because they wanted a better backup than DiNucci (who couldn't beat out Manny Stocker) or a true freshman Pickett?

Exactly Schneider was brought in because dinucci was not the answer.


Chaney didn't try bring mac because they had a guy named Jacob Eason down there. He started as a true freshmen.