And play Big Ten/NFL style football? Or will decide to play modern day college football and attempt to score 30+ PPG?
Are we going to have win our games 20-13 all year again?
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We aren’t scoring 30+ against respectable acc opponents. Accept a 20-13 win. It could be worse.
Big 10 football? You mean having any sort of semblance of a run game? Don’t worry, you are safe from seeing that this year too.
Big 10 football? You mean having any sort of semblance of a run game? Don’t worry, you are safe from seeing that this year too.
Winning isn't good enough for you?
"Yeah, Pitt won ten games but they didn't score enough points." See? Sounds dumb.
I'd gladly go 12-0 winning 3-0 every week but eventually our defense is going to give up points in the high 20s and 30+. Its college football. We have a senior QB and an "offensive genius" OC. We should be able to win a game 38-35 if we need to. Maybe we will, just asking.
You won't have to worry about us winning this week. The Pitt D will not be able to contain the Louisville high powered offense. And the Pitt O will never score enough points to overcome the Louisville scoring. Too much speed on offense for L once they get into our secondary IMO.
Given Pitt scored in the 30s to beat UCF, Duke and UNC last year, I think they'll be able to get into the 30s this year. Fair chance they do so the next couple games even.
27 in regulation vs UNC. The offense scored 26 vs Duke. Last year's offense was the worst I've seen in many years and the Syracuse game didn't give me any confidence its any better.
Sure. That happens sometimes though. Are you gonna look up every other team that put up 30+ and see if they ever scored a TD on D/ST to get to 30+?
Pitt returned a blocked punt v. UCF for a TD as well. But, UCF had a punt return TD in the same game. So, yeah, both teams needed a D/ST to get to 30+ in that game.
Oh boy. A win is a win is a win. Let’s enjoy the ride.
Behind every dark cloud, is another dark cloud. Yikes.
Behind every dark cloud, is another dark cloud. Yikes.
Well if we do, then expect another 7-4, 6-5 type of year. It is a legit concern, one that I thought about this morning even before your post.
I think Pitt will need about 26 pts to have a chance at beating Louisville. They really look fast and play physical too. Pickett has got to be special and win a couple games himself this year for Pitt to have a nice year. 9 wins would be awesome with their schedule.
Pitt wins 10 games last year if they score 20 two more times. It's not as simple as "open the offense and score more points". With a defense like this, holding the ball for 40 minutes will probably win most weeks. The inability to run the ball effectively and consistently and a shaky kicking game is way more concerning.
We should of scored 30 vs. 'Cuse, 0-3 on FGs with a 4 year starter SR Kicker.
I forget and I am not going back and count, but I believe we scored like 10 second half TD's last year. In 13 games. 10. And think about it, 3 of those were last minute, had to score, come from behind TD's (Duke, UCF and Eastern Mich).
That comes from this "play safe" mentality.
Playing it safe is definitely part of the problem. Let's see, dropped passes, dumb penalties, missed assignments. It adds up. The defense will give up a big play or two. Just the nature of the beast. Running game needs to improve dramatically. Upside, Addison is a real weapon and Krull can catch passes. Pickett has looked good when he has time and throws pretty well when he's moving.
It's tough to say until Pitt faces a good defense.
Honest question: Why would anybody expect it was going to be different this year? Because we returned everything? So what? Outside of the dumb mistakes and mental lapses, which one would expect to be cleaned up with experience, there was no reason to think the offense was going to take much of a leap. It’s not like there were a ton of players with huge ceilings and that flashed a ton last year. Realistically, this is what everybody should have expected. It’s the constant mental mistakes that has really disappointed me.
In terms of the “who cares how much we score” and a “win is a win” crowd, do people realize how fortunate we were last year? One thing that Vegas sharks do when they bet on win totals, is this look at close games the previous year, and should one expect close games the next year. Because luck impacts close games more than blow outs. It’s why every year Phil Steele, who is plugged into Vegas, always has a spread in his preview magazine about which teams won the most 1 score games last year, and which teams lost the most. And he constantly brings it up when discussing teams. Because everything else being equal, you would expect that to even out. Gamblers get that, and make a killing on the public that doesn’t.
I dont’ want to play last year’s season, week in and week out, all over again this season. Because if you’re being realistic. If you had to gamble on it. We’re heading for a fall. We probably aren’t going to win 10+ one score games over the course of two seasons. The offense needs to help us out.
In terms of the “who cares how much we score” and a “win is a win” crowd, do people realize how fortunate we were last year? One thing that Vegas sharks do when they bet on win totals, is this look at close games the previous year, and should one expect close games the next year. Because luck impacts close games more than blow outs. It’s why every year Phil Steele, who is plugged into Vegas, always has a spread in his preview magazine about which teams won the most 1 score games last year, and which teams lost the most. And he constantly brings it up when discussing teams. Because everything else being equal, you would expect that to even out. Gamblers get that, and make a killing on the public that doesn’t.
I dont’ want to play last year’s season, week in and week out, all over again this season. Because if you’re being realistic. If you had to gamble on it. We’re heading for a fall. We probably aren’t going to win 10+ one score games over the course of two seasons. The offense needs to help us out.
We will attempt to score as many as we can.
Regardless, our defense should be able to hold most all opponents to 23 or less absent significant turnovers resulting in very short fields.
Don't worry! You aren't paying anything this season, the Football Players are.
Regarding vegas, if you would have bet the over on Pitt wins each year under Narduzzi you'd be 4-1. So they're either better than vegas and the public thinks, or have a horseshoe up their arse. I think most Pitt fans would agree we certainly ain't got no horseshoes anywhere....
Catch the ball, don't take unnecessary penalties, make your make able field goals.
Do that and I like our chances most weeks.
That’s fine, but that’s not really the point.
We exceed Vegas expectations. That doesn’t mean we then sub-exceed Vegas expectations. It’s one thing to say we defied the odds by winning 10 hands in a row. It’s another to say we did it by hitting on 20 10 hands in a row.
Pitt had the same record last year as it did in 2016. How much you score isn't the determining factor. I know that's not your point but the OP's suggestion that it's all about scoring points is wrong.
Yeah, the PSU, BC, and Miami games last year are good examples of one score games that were tough to swallow (at least two of those teams had well regarded defenses) and go to prove your point but the losses to VA and VaTech are the ones that make you scratch your head and worry about this offense more.
Pickett played his worst game and owns the Miami loss. Fumbles and poor tackling explains BC.
We were flat against Vir,Teck. They beat us to a pulp. Narduzzi owns that.
We were lucky against PSU. That put us in position to win. Whipple was too stupid to take advantage of it.
I was at the UVA game. Still don't know what went wrong. Some drops, some bad breaks, penalties, poor offensive scheme? Just don't know.
I forget. What game did we have first and goal at the half yard line? Whipple tried to go fast and a flanked out Mathews was not set. Talk about over thinking it. No need to be a genius when just being smart will do.
You mentioned vegas, I simply pointed out they've been consistently under Pitt win totals under Narduzzi. You seem to think that coaches or teams can't consistently win close games.
I've watched a lot of people throw a lot of money away betting that something couldn't happen again. Vegas is full of losers who thought that.
I’m not even just talking about the PSU, BC, and Miami games.
Pitt played 8 one score games last year. That’s too many. Every one of those games is one bounce of the football. Some bad turnover luck. Having to kick into the wind for your FG instead of with it. Things that the team really doesn’t control.
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Pitt is going to have to score 30+ to beat teams like Miami, Louisville, Notre Dame and, dare I say, Clemson. Our defense is really good but those offenses are explosive and they will score points.
If we make makeable kicks and catch catchable passes, we easily score 30 last week and that was a sloppy game. I think our O will get better. This week should be the first true look at what these kids can do. I'm going to say Pitt 34-LVL 27. I'd be thrilled with a 3-0 win though.
Actually nine. Six wins and three losses (the nitters and BC by seven, Miami by four).
I thought the offense was much worse the year they started the 5-star USC transfer at QB.
Their is nothing wrong with Pitt's offensive scheme. The offense just needs to execute better. They left a lot of points on the field against Syracuse. Special teams is a part of that too.
I think the scheme is fine, it gets people open.
I agree on execution.
I do feel the individual playing calling within the scheme, has a lot of room for improvement.
