Arsenal women lose 5-0 vs U15 team

[Sean Miller Fan]

Arsenal Women suffer 5-0 loss to boys U15 side in pre-season friendly

The match - which saw winger Chido Obi score a hat-trick - took place behind closed doors as last season's Women's Super League runners-up began preparations for the new season.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Seems about right. Though the Chelsea women beat a U18 squad 4-3 but I really dont believe that.

This is a big reason why I cant watch women's soccer. It is the equivalent of high level middle school boys soccer.

 

[Fk_Pitt]

Arsenal Women suffer 5-0 loss to boys U15 side in pre-season friendly

The match - which saw winger Chido Obi score a hat-trick - took place behind closed doors as last season's Women's Super League runners-up began preparations for the new season.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Seems about right. Though the Chelsea women beat a U18 squad 4-3 but I really dont believe that.

This is a big reason why I cant watch women's soccer. It is the equivalent of high level middle school boys soccer.

So you don’t value and appreciate womens sports…we get it. Seems there’s a lot of that going around these days.

btw…I don’t think anyone here in the basketball forum cares about womens arsenal football.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

So you don’t value and appreciate womens sports…we get it. Seems there’s a lot of that going around these days.

btw…I don’t think anyone here in the basketball forum cares about womens arsenal football.

Wrong board

 

[King Of All Message Boards]

Wrong board

Because people will care on another board….

 

[thirteenNINE]

Since SMF brings it up though, I'm really amazed at the increase in quality of the women's game over the past 10 years or so. During most of the US dominated era the women's game always looked a way that I would always describe as "floaty", like when you don't have a soccer ball to kick around so you play with a volleyball instead. It was a lot of route 1, endline crosses with floated headers, and high arcing shots from distance and really not that fun to watch.

I watched a decent bit of the women's Euros though and the game is totally different now. The players' first touches are a lot better now, the control is tighter, the movement is better, and the passes and pace of play is more audacious, especially the in really good squads like England, Germany and Spain.

I understand if it isn't for everyone but these days I would probably put a match on which is a lot more than I would have said in 2010.

 

[Fk_Pitt]

Since SMF brings it up though, I'm really amazed at the increase in quality of the women's game over the past 10 years or so. During most of the US dominated era the women's game always looked a way that I would always describe as "floaty", like when you don't have a soccer ball to kick around so you play with a volleyball instead. It was a lot of route 1, endline crosses with floated headers, and high arcing shots from distance and really not that fun to watch.

I watched a decent bit of the women's Euros though and the game is totally different now. The players' first touches are a lot better now, the control is tighter, the movement is better, and the passes and pace of play is more audacious, especially the in really good squads like England, Germany and Spain.

I understand if it isn't for everyone but these days I would probably put a match on which is a lot more than I would have said in 2010.

Nice to have you commenting on womens soccer. SMF is simply a hater. Some of us appreciate it. And yes the womens game has changed. The US is in trouble.

 

[anon_d97v9o3a8b6xr]

Nice to have you commenting on womens soccer. SMF is simply a hater. Some of us appreciate it. And yes the womens game has changed. The US is in trouble.

I agree the US is in serious trouble at all national team ages. The U20s who are supposed to be our best college players and a few pros were horrible. The U17s doing ok but not dominating. And I fully expect the older women to be challenged more than ever and possibly not even make the final. I say go out in quarterfinals or semifinals.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

Nice to have you commenting on womens soccer. SMF is simply a hater. Some of us appreciate it. And yes the womens game has changed. The US is in trouble.

I mean I think they are very good, very skilled and all that. You know how I feel in that its ridiculous to demand equal pay when you are only as good as a high level middle school boy.

 

[Fk_Pitt]

I mean I think they are very good, very skilled and all that. You know how I feel in that its ridiculous to demand equal pay when you are only as good as a high level middle school boy.

My wife and daughters are all part of that “eco system”. And none of them believe in the equal pay BS as well.

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

The U20s who are supposed to be our best college players and a few pros were horrible.

I watch at least a part of all three of their games. They were bad. They didn't seem to have any plan.

One thing that amused me was that they started and gave big minutes to a player who reminded me of a girl my niece played with in high school, and then a different player with the same game that she played with in college. Really fast, and could run all day long. And then when she got the ball at her feet she had no idea what so ever what she should do with it. So several times she ended up just passing the ball directly to a defender or playing the ball way too far ahead and have it roll out of play, even when she wasn't under any pressure at all.

Some coaches see that speed and they think damn, if I can just figure out a way to harness all that speed imagine how good a player I'll have on my hands.

It seems as if that strategy rarely pays off.

 

[Fk_Pitt]

I watch at least a part of all three of their games. They were bad. They didn't seem to have any plan.

One thing that amused me was that they started and gave big minutes to a player who reminded me of a girl my niece played with in high school, and then a different player with the same game that she played with in college. Really fast, and could run all day long. And then when she got the ball at her feet she had no idea what so ever what she should do with it. So several times she ended up just passing the ball directly to a defender or playing the ball way too far ahead and have it roll out of play, even when she wasn't under any pressure at all.

Some coaches see that speed and they think damn, if I can just figure out a way to harness all that speed imagine how good a player I'll have on my hands.

It seems as if that strategy rarely pays off.

I watched a couple of those players grow up. My daughter played in US camps with 2 of them when they were younger and my daughter was dropped out of the pool and never returned. Lol.

one of the players on that team I remember my daughter playing against in the USYS Region 1 league and the National League at the time. This player, who is now at UNC, played up 3 years and dominated the age group. She’d score a goal, her coach would sit her. Our team would score to tie or come within a goal, and her coach would put her back in to impact the game and retake the lead. Every time we played them, it was a cat and mouse game where this U10 player was dominating U13’s. First time we saw her play, my coaching buddy texted Erica Walsh at PSU and USWNT and told her she needed to put this kid on her radar. But she already knew about her…and the girl was 10! Fast forward all these years, and the player was largely ineffective in this U20 World Cup because she’s fresh off an ACL tear. The US team really looked to be a mess.

 

[JD1976]

I watched a couple of those players grow up. My daughter played in US camps with 2 of them when they were younger and my daughter was dropped out of the pool and never returned. Lol.

one of the players on that team I remember my daughter playing against in the USYS Region 1 league and the National League at the time. This player, who is now at UNC, played up 3 years and dominated the age group. She’d score a goal, her coach would sit her. Our team would score to tie or come within a goal, and her coach would put her back in to impact the game and retake the lead. Every time we played them, it was a cat and mouse game where this U10 player was dominating U13’s. First time we saw her play, my coaching buddy texted Erica Walsh at PSU and USWNT and told her she needed to put this kid on her radar. But she already knew about her…and the girl was 10! Fast forward all these years, and the player was largely ineffective in this U20 World Cup because she’s fresh off an ACL tear. The US team really looked to be a mess.

Let’s not underestimate the quality of coaching at the youth national team levels in America. If you were to make a list of the top 30 or so coaches in America that coach 18-22 year olds every single one of them is at the college level making 2-3x what US Soccer would pay them. Hence, virtually every youth national team is coached by a British cast off who happens to live in the U.S. I question the tactics we see at these youth world cups less than I question the actual talent levels.

 

[recruitsreadtheseboards]

Arsenal Women suffer 5-0 loss to boys U15 side in pre-season friendly

The match - which saw winger Chido Obi score a hat-trick - took place behind closed doors as last season's Women's Super League runners-up began preparations for the new season.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Seems about right. Though the Chelsea women beat a U18 squad 4-3 but I really dont believe that.

This is a big reason why I cant watch women's soccer. It is the equivalent of high level middle school boys soccer.

No one cares. Jesus.

 

[Pitt79]

Arsenal Women suffer 5-0 loss to boys U15 side in pre-season friendly

The match - which saw winger Chido Obi score a hat-trick - took place behind closed doors as last season's Women's Super League runners-up began preparations for the new season.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Seems about right. Though the Chelsea women beat a U18 squad 4-3 but I really dont believe that.

This is a big reason why I cant watch women's soccer. It is the equivalent of high level middle school boys soccer.

Would you watch if your daughter was playing?

I also don't seem to be able to watch the women now that my daughter doesn't play anymore.

And clearly stuff like this proves women's teams shouldn't get anywhere near the same pay as men's. but I get it if they had better TV ratings or sold more merchandise.

I remember my daughter's U15 team lost 10-3 to a boys U12 team back in the day.

 

[Fk_Pitt]

Would you watch if your daughter was playing?

I also don't seem to be able to watch the women now that my daughter doesn't play anymore.

And clearly stuff like this proves women's teams shouldn't get anywhere near the same pay as men's. but I get it if they had better TV ratings or sold more merchandise.

I remember my daughter's U15 team lost 10-3 to a boys U12 team back in the day.

There was always a winter coed high school soccer league in my area where my daughters played with and against male athletes who excelled in sports like football, Baseball, hockey,etc. I always enjoyed watching my girls dominate them, turning them inside out/breaking their ankles, etc. I do concede though that the boys were careful around the female players because it is a physical game and it put the boys at a bit of a disadvantage at times trying not to hurt the girls. But skill for skill, some of the girls were much better and effective players in the league than the male athletes.

 

[Pitt79]

There was always a winter coed high school soccer league in my area where my daughters played with and against male athletes who excelled in sports like football, Baseball, hockey,etc. I always enjoyed watching my girls dominate them, turning them inside out/breaking their ankles, etc. I do concede though that the boys were careful around the female players because it is a physical game and it put the boys at a bit of a disadvantage at times trying not to hurt the girls. But skill for skill, some of the girls were much better and effective players in the league than the male athletes.

Absolutely, my daughter can destroy boys who are great athletes in other sports, she actually enjoyed humiliating boys that played football or basketball, but in general it wasn't easy vs boys trained as much as her in soccer.

 

[Pitt79]

I still watch some of the USAWNT games, funny I root for the opponents to keep it close, a lot of those games over the years have been so boring, the average scores always seemed like 7-0 or something like that.

 

[Fk_Pitt]

Absolutely, my daughter can destroy boys who are great athletes in other sports, she actually enjoyed humiliating boys that played football or basketball, but in general it wasn't easy vs boys trained as much as her in soccer.

For sure. I think the best way to put it is if you’re building such a team, you’re picking a male soccer player first, then the female soccer player next, then the QB of the football team last. And the center on the hoop team, plug him in goal.

 

[Pitt79]

For sure. I think the best way to put it is if you’re building such a team, you’re picking a male soccer player first, then the female soccer player next, then the QB of the football team last. And the center on the hoop team, plug him in goal.

And very few O lineman

 

[pittiswhereiamfrom2]

My wife and daughters are all part of that “eco system”. And none of them believe in the equal pay BS as well.

What eco system?

 

[Fk_Pitt]

What eco system?

Youth/womens soccer

 

[pittiswhereiamfrom2]

Youth/womens soccer

Interesting

 

[JD1976]

I would imagine the worst NFL team would crush Alabama by multiple TDs. Should we not watch and enjoy college football?

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

I would imagine the worst NFL team would crush Alabama by multiple TDs. Should we not watch and enjoy college football?

Its the 2nd best football league in the world. Watching elite women's soccer is the equivalent of watching high level middle school boys

 

[JD1976]

Its the 2nd best football league in the world. Watching elite women's soccer is the equivalent of watching high level middle school boys

Then go watch middle school boys if you like that so much.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

Then go watch middle school boys if you like that so much.

La Liga played a youth tournament in Orlando this summer. I watched a little of a U12 match just to see the skill level. The US women are great for the level they play at, which is middle school boys

 

[Fk_Pitt]

La Liga played a youth tournament in Orlando this summer. I watched a little of a U12 match just to see the skill level. The US women are great for the level they play at, which is middle school boys

You sure are infatuated with middle school boys. I’ll continue to watch the women.