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Barnes article in PPG

Interesting read. Perhaps some of our thin skinned friends on here will be placated by Barnes' comments lauding the Pittsburgh medical community in helping identify his daughter's medical condition.

Fair article. I appreciate Barnes' candor. Best wishes to he and his family.

http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/...on-State-Kevin-Stallings/stories/201701070056
They will apologize for their disgusting remarks if they are placated. But they won't they will say this is lies by Barnes.
 
They will apologize for their disgusting remarks if they are placated. But they won't they will say this is lies by Barnes.
No one has said he lied. This article is exactly the same as the one earlier this week. Absolutely 0 more info.
 
I wish him and his family well. He was a decent steward of the program, even if he was only here for a year. He was blasted heavily for the b-ball hire but I think it will work well in the end.
 
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No one has said he lied. This article is exactly the same as the one earlier this week. Absolutely 0 more info.

You are being intellectually disingenuous.

There were plenty of comments accusing Barnes of making up the health concerns of his family, using those "alleged" concerns as subterfuge for running away from the Stallings hire, and being defensive of the Pittsburgh medical community.
 
Let's put it this way as far as moving to Corvallis for medical treatment: there is one decent medical center and school in all of Oregon, in Portland, and it doesn't have one of the 16 specialties evaluated by US News that is ranked ahead of UPMC. That is 80+ miles away from Corvallis for care that is less well regarded in essentially any field that you can think of. Then you have the University of Washington 300 miles north (which is also not generally considered any better than Pitt in most fields) and one of the top Medical Centers in the world is at UCSF, 570 miles south. You know how many world class medical centers are within 300 miles of Pittsburgh? Pitt, Penn, Johns Hopkins, Cleveland Clinic.

Now I have no idea what is wrong with his daughter (or perhaps what happened to her) and I don't really care beyond the fact I'm sorry whatever is happening is happening to someone that was attending Pitt, but he is the one volunteering that she has a medical condition that warrants moving his entire family to Corvallis, Oregon. Much like his pronouncements that he got the "best guy" in his basketball search, the validity of those statements could be absolutely legitimate, but that doesn't stop critical thinking by anyone either just because he has asked for it to stop.

If he wants to leave fine, but bitching about people raising questions about his move and the timing of his move is the nature of his very high profile position. He's a CEO type, where he is compensated among the top of any positions that exist in academia. He is free to reveal a little as he chooses in his private life, but he isn't immune from speculation from those that he has solicited purchases and donations from for two years, particularly since he is abandoning his own major initiatives within the athletic department without seeing them through.
 
There is something or some people very toxic at Pitt, no doubt in my mind , Duzz will be gone soon is my prediction, not to be a jerk, but why does he want to deal with this every year , I wouldn't!
 
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Let's put it this way as far as moving to Corvallis for medical treatment: there is one decent medical center and school in all of Oregon, in Portland, and it doesn't have one of the 16 specialties evaluated by US News that is ranked ahead of UPMC. That is 80+ miles away from Corvallis for care that is less well regarded in essentially any field that you can think of. Then you have the University of Washington 300 miles north (which is also not generally considered any better than Pitt in most fields) and one of the top Medical Centers in the world is at UCSF, 570 miles south. You know how many world class medical centers are within 300 miles of Pittsburgh? Pitt, Penn, Johns Hopkins, Cleveland Clinic.

Now I have no idea what is wrong with his daughter (or perhaps what happened to her) and I don't really care beyond the fact I'm sorry whatever is happening is happening to someone that was attending Pitt, but he is the one volunteering that she has a medical condition that warrants moving his entire family to Corvallis, Oregon. Much like his pronouncements that he got the "best guy" in his basketball search, the validity of those statements could be absolutely legitimate, but that doesn't stop critical thinking by anyone either just because he has asked for it to stop.

If he wants to leave fine, but bitching about people raising questions about his move and the timing of his move is the nature of his very high profile position. He's a CEO type, where he is compensated among the top of any positions that exist in academia. He is free to reveal a little as he chooses in his private life, but he isn't immune from speculation from those that he has solicited purchases and donations from for two years, particularly since he is abandoning his own major initiatives within the athletic department without seeing them through.


He left because of his not liking working at Pitt with some people , it's not hard to try and spin. Like to fix the issue instead of replace everyone every year or so
 
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Let's put it this way as far as moving to Corvallis for medical treatment: there is one decent medical center and school in all of Oregon, in Portland, and it doesn't have one of the 16 specialties evaluated by US News that is ranked ahead of UPMC. That is 80+ miles away from Corvallis for care that is less well regarded in essentially any field that you can think of. Then you have the University of Washington 300 miles north (which is also not generally considered any better than Pitt in most fields) and one of the top Medical Centers in the world is at UCSF, 570 miles south. You know how many world class medical centers are within 300 miles of Pittsburgh? Pitt, Penn, Johns Hopkins, Cleveland Clinic.

Now I have no idea what is wrong with his daughter (or perhaps what happened to her) and I don't really care beyond the fact I'm sorry whatever is happening is happening to someone that was attending Pitt, but he is the one volunteering that she has a medical condition that warrants moving his entire family to Corvallis, Oregon. Much like his pronouncements that he got the "best guy" in his basketball search, the validity of those statements could be absolutely legitimate, but that doesn't stop critical thinking by anyone either just because he has asked for it to stop.

If he wants to leave fine, but bitching about people raising questions about his move and the timing of his move is the nature of his very high profile position. He's a CEO type, where he is compensated among the top of any positions that exist in academia. He is free to reveal a little as he chooses in his private life, but he isn't immune from speculation from those that he has solicited purchases and donations from for two years, particularly since he is abandoning his own major initiatives within the athletic department without seeing them through.

Where does Barnes claim he is moving to Oregon for some kind of cutting edge medical treatment unavailable in Pittsburgh? I think you are reading to support an agenda Paco, and not reading his meaning.

I don't disagree that along with the position and compensation comes scrutiny. But I think it's over the top and unnecessary and tastes a little sour over being rejected.
 
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Where does Barnes claim he is moving to Oregon for some kind of cutting edge medical treatment unavailable in Pittsburgh? I think you are reading to support an agenda Paco, and not reading his meaning.

I don't disagree that along with the position and compensation comes scrutiny. But I think it's over the top and unnecessary and tastes a little sour over being rejected.

Well what medical condition could warrant a move to Oregon? That is what he stated. I can't think of any.

My agenda is I want people at Pitt who are dedicated to seeing through things at Pitt. So good riddance.
 
Well what medical condition could warrant a move to Oregon? That is what he stated. I can't think of any.

My agenda is I want people at Pitt who are dedicated to seeing through things at Pitt. So good riddance.

Paco, he said that because of medical concerns for his daughter and his ailing mother he found a fit on the west coast from a logistical perspective. EDIT: IE: moving closer to family. He never said he's moving to Corvallis for a specific medical treatment. I think you are twisting his words.
 
Paco, he said that because of medical concerns for his daughter and his ailing mother he found a fit on the west coast from a logistical perspective. He never said he's moving to Corvallis for a specific medical treatment. I think you are twisting his words.

From the article "He’s excited by the opportunity in Corvallis, Ore., but also has cited a medical issue for his daughter Milanna, 20, who attended Pitt. He added that his mother’s health also has declined in his hometown about 430 miles from Corvallis."

That's fine. He isn't committed to Pitt. That is clear. He didn't even see his projects through, but he wants everyone to give him the benefit of the doubt because of what? His commitment to Pitt? He has Westcoastitis, for whatever reason he wants to state. Good riddance.
 
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You are being intellectually disingenuous.

There were plenty of comments accusing Barnes of making up the health concerns of his family, using those "alleged" concerns as subterfuge for running away from the Stallings hire, and being defensive of the Pittsburgh medical community.
Making it up? No I don't think so. Saying they weren't so "tragic" they were driving a decision to go back to the West Coast, but not really near family? Most definitely.
 
Let's put it this way as far as moving to Corvallis for medical treatment: there is one decent medical center and school in all of Oregon, in Portland, and it doesn't have one of the 16 specialties evaluated by US News that is ranked ahead of UPMC. That is 80+ miles away from Corvallis for care that is less well regarded in essentially any field that you can think of. Then you have the University of Washington 300 miles north (which is also not generally considered any better than Pitt in most fields) and one of the top Medical Centers in the world is at UCSF, 570 miles south. You know how many world class medical centers are within 300 miles of Pittsburgh? Pitt, Penn, Johns Hopkins, Cleveland Clinic.

Now I have no idea what is wrong with his daughter (or perhaps what happened to her) and I don't really care beyond the fact I'm sorry whatever is happening is happening to someone that was attending Pitt, but he is the one volunteering that she has a medical condition that warrants moving his entire family to Corvallis, Oregon. Much like his pronouncements that he got the "best guy" in his basketball search, the validity of those statements could be absolutely legitimate, but that doesn't stop critical thinking by anyone either just because he has asked for it to stop.

If he wants to leave fine, but bitching about people raising questions about his move and the timing of his move is the nature of his very high profile position. He's a CEO type, where he is compensated among the top of any positions that exist in academia. He is free to reveal a little as he chooses in his private life, but he isn't immune from speculation from those that he has solicited purchases and donations from for two years, particularly since he is abandoning his own major initiatives within the athletic department without seeing them through.
Gets it.
 
We'll never know definitively why he moved nor how he would have worked out at Pitt. I have to believe the the presser introducing Stallings is something that stayed with him. Brutal.
 
Hopefully who ever comes in here fires EJ and any other holdover from the nordy/steve era. That crap needs removed from Pitt's athletic future.
 
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The irony of Pittsburghers - some of the most provincial people the planet - crying about a guy moving closer to his roots is some of the most laughable shit I've ever seen.

He should have stayed at Utah State and never applied for the Pitt job.

We could have actually gotten someone who wants to be here.

Hopefully, the new AD will be that guy.

By the way Barnes you should have never lowered the buyout for Jamie going to TCU.

You know Pitt could use that money they are spending on the search for your replacement or for a new OC.

Glad Barnes is leaving.

HAIL TO PITT!!!!
 
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Interesting read. Perhaps some of our thin skinned friends on here will be placated by Barnes' comments lauding the Pittsburgh medical community in helping identify his daughter's medical condition.

Fair article. I appreciate Barnes' candor. Best wishes to he and his family.

http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/...on-State-Kevin-Stallings/stories/201701070056

What I didn't appreciate in the article is Barnes calling people who don't agree with his decisions "Knuckleheads". Pitt Alums/Fans who buy season tickets and donate to the University should never be called that by a Pitt AD.

Barnes at this time has no idea that JS is going to be more successful than JD.

HAIL TO PITT!!!!
 
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What I didn't appreciate in the article is Barnes calling people who don't agree with his decisions "Knuckleheads". Pitt Alums/Fans who buy season tickets and donate to the University should never be called that by a Pitt AD.

Barnes at this time has no idea that JS is going to be more successful than JD.

HAIL TO PITT!!!!

What Pitt Alums/Fans were at the press conference? Sounds to me like he's calling out memebers of the media....

"because of some knuckleheads at a press conference,"
 
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He should have stayed at Utah State and never applied for the Pitt job.

We could have actually gotten someone who wants to be here.

Hopefully, the new AD will be that guy.

By the way Barnes you should have never lowered the buyout for Jamie going to TCU.

You know Pitt could use that money they are spending on the search for your replacement or for a new OC.

Glad Barnes is leaving.

HAIL TO PITT!!!!

Careful what you wish for.

Know who wanted to be here?

Steve Pederson
 
Good article! I appreciate everything he did for our programs while here. For all those that bash him for the basketball hire College Athletics is a small world and if you don't hire a firm their would be a connection anyway. So big deal at the end of Stallings tenure at Pitt we will all look back and be happy with the hire.
Family first and you have to respect that especially with the money these guys make it's a not even an option to head back. Not many people get that option.
H2P
 
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