Before you go firing the coaching staff ...

[Chairman Moe]

It was the players on the field, wearing the Blue and Gold uni’s, who turned the ball over 4 times, and couldn’t tackle worth a &!#*

But what WERE the coaches thinking when we had the ball at the 1/2 yd line; second down ... start of the 2nd Qtr; why the Wildcat? Take a snap under center, and run the f****** ball into the end zone!

Ahh ... mediocrity ... how well we embrace it!

Maybe next year, boys ... tough way for the Senior class to exit ... hope a few of them get to land on an NFL squad ... and the others graduate with pride

HTP!

 

[H2P 2003]

It was the players on the field, wearing the Blue and Gold uni’s, who turned the ball over 4 times, and couldn’t tackle worth a &!#*

But what WERE the coaches thinking when we had the ball at the 1/2 yd line; second down ... start of the 2nd Qtr; why the Wildcat? Take a snap under center, and run the f****** ball into the end zone!

Ahh ... mediocrity ... how well we embrace it!

Maybe next year, boys ... tough way for the Senior class to exit ... hope a few of them get to land on an NFL squad ... and the others graduate with pride

HTP!

HE RECRUITED THE PLAYERS.

 

[King Of All Message Boards]

Someone should make the TShirt

Pitt Football - maybe next year

 

[CaptainMurphy]

Someone should make the TShirt

Pitt Football - maybe next year

Ain't that the truth. I don't even count on next year. Maybe sometime within the next decade.

 

[Chairman Moe]

HE RECRUITED THE PLAYERS.

Yes, he (and his staff) did.

 

[California Panther]

Someone should make the TShirt

Pitt Football - maybe next year

an even better tee-shirt: Pitt Football - maybe in my lifetime?

 

[Chairman Moe]

Ain't that the truth. I don't even count on next year. Maybe sometime within the next decade.

Well, we could extend decade to this entire century, as long as we’re at it!! 80 years to achieve a season with double digit victories ... what are the odds???

 

[superstein61a]

It was the players on the field, wearing the Blue and Gold uni’s, who turned the ball over 4 times, and couldn’t tackle worth a &!#*

But what WERE the coaches thinking when we had the ball at the 1/2 yd line; second down ... start of the 2nd Qtr; why the Wildcat? Take a snap under center, and run the f****** ball into the end zone!

Ahh ... mediocrity ... how well we embrace it!

Maybe next year, boys ... tough way for the Senior class to exit ... hope a few of them get to land on an NFL squad ... and the others graduate with pride

HTP!

Not only did the PLAYERS fumble but on the 1 yard line, Aaron Matthews was lazy getting into position which led to the 5 yard penalty that was a killer

 

[thebadby2]

Not only did the PLAYERS fumble but on the 1 yard line, Aaron Matthews was lazy getting into position which to to the 5 yard penalty that was a killer

It’s amazing to me that there are people who don’t recognize that these persistent mistakes in basic execution and unforced mental errors are a direct reflection on the coaching. Players make mistakes and miss assignments no matter who the coach is, that’s a fact. However, When it’s a routine occurrence and persistent epidemic such that you come to expect it every week, that’s a reflection on the coaching. These are the things good teams work on and drill over and over and over again in practice. Those players who can’t execute consistently and/or can’t stop making the mistakes don’t play on Saturdays.

Anyone who has played football at a competitive level, and who has played for multiple coaches, understands this.

 

[JokePa]

It was the players on the field, wearing the Blue and Gold uni’s, who turned the ball over 4 times, and couldn’t tackle worth a &!#*

But what WERE the coaches thinking when we had the ball at the 1/2 yd line; second down ... start of the 2nd Qtr; why the Wildcat? Take a snap under center, and run the f****** ball into the end zone!

Ahh ... mediocrity ... how well we embrace it!

Maybe next year, boys ... tough way for the Senior class to exit ... hope a few of them get to land on an NFL squad ... and the others graduate with pride

HTP!

Most the seniors were the ones that screwed up today.

Hamlin and Jackson will be NFLers no doubt, both are studs

 

[CaptainMurphy]

Well, we could extend decade to this entire century, as long as we’re at it!! 80 years to achieve a season with double digit victories ... what are the odds???

I hope it happens before I reach senility but I'm not counting on it

 

[pittmaninwv]

It’s amazing to me that there are people who don’t recognize that these persistent mistakes in basic execution and unforced mental errors are a direct reflection on the coaching. Players make mistakes and miss assignments no matter who the coach is, that’s a fact. However, When it’s a routine occurrence and persistent epidemic such that you come to expect it every week, that’s a reflection on the coaching. These are the things good teams work on and drill over and over and over again in practice. Those players who can’t execute consistently and/or can’t stop making the mistakes don’t play on Saturdays.

Anyone who has played football at a competitive level, and who has played for multiple coaches, understands this.

Bingo!!

 

[303vND]

It’s amazing to me that there are people who don’t recognize that these persistent mistakes in basic execution and unforced mental errors are a direct reflection on the coaching. Players make mistakes and miss assignments no matter who the coach is, that’s a fact. However, When it’s a routine occurrence and persistent epidemic such that you come to expect it every week, that’s a reflection on the coaching. These are the things good teams work on and drill over and over and over again in practice. Those players who can’t execute consistently and/or can’t stop making the mistakes don’t play on Saturdays.

Anyone who has played football at a competitive level, and who has played for multiple coaches, understands this.

AMEN!!

 

[superstein61a]

It’s amazing to me that there are people who don’t recognize that these persistent mistakes in basic execution and unforced mental errors are a direct reflection on the coaching. Players make mistakes and miss assignments no matter who the coach is, that’s a fact. However, When it’s a routine occurrence and persistent epidemic such that you come to expect it every week, that’s a reflection on the coaching. These are the things good teams work on and drill over and over and over again in practice. Those players who can’t execute consistently and/or can’t stop making the mistakes don’t play on Saturdays.

Anyone who has played football at a competitive level, and who has played for multiple coaches, understands this.

Bullshit. Lets look at who committed the errors today

Matthews a senior who has been reliable albeit not great. He was just plain lazy today

Davis a freshman fumbled. He had to play as the backup running back and he scored a TD on an explosive run. Freshman make mistakes at times

Wayne a freshman fumbled and ran the wrong route leading to the interception. He played so much because Mack was out. And he was the leading receiver. Again, freshman make mistakes at times

 

[bwh05]

That’s a cop out, you sound like not my fault Walt. Good coaches get the most out of their players. We played like complete garbage for the last 2 weeks, culminating in today’s awful performance against an inferior opponent.

 

[bwh05]

Bullshit. Lets look at who committed the errors today

Matthews a senior who has been reliable albeit not great. He was just plain lazy today

Davis a freshman fumbled. He had to play as the backup running back and he scored a TD on an explosive run. Freshman make mistakes at times

Wayne a freshman fumbled and ran the wrong route leading to the interception. He played so much because Mack was out. And he was the leading receiver. Again, freshman make mistakes at times

I don’t care about physical mistakes. We made about 100 mental mistakes. That’s unacceptable and defending that is absurd.

 

[zucca]

Pitt football has stunk for years, stinks now and will stink in the foreseeable future. The coaches have stunk, the coach stinks now and the coaches will stink in the foreseeable future. The players, for the most part, have stunk, for the most part, stink now, and for the most part, will stink in the foreseeable future.

 

[thebadby2]

Bullshit. Lets look at who committed the errors today

Matthews a senior who has been reliable albeit not great. He was just plain lazy today

Davis a freshman fumbled. He had to play as the backup running back and he scored a TD on an explosive run. Freshman make mistakes at times

Wayne a freshman fumbled and ran the wrong route leading to the interception. He played so much because Mack was out. And he was the leading receiver. Again, freshman make mistakes at times

You don’t get it. Going into today’s game: Pitt is the 3rd most penalized team in Division 1 averaging 8.5 penalties per game. Pitt has the most penalty yards per game against them out of all 130 D1 teams at 75 penalty yards per game.

Look back at the past 3-4 years you’ll see similar numbers.

If you don’t understand the significance and meaning of those numbers I don’t know what to tell you.

 

[Black_Man_Panther]

Wayne a freshman fumbled and ran the wrong route leading to the interception. He played so much because Mack was out. And he was the leading receiver. Again, freshman make mistakes at times

Here's where your logic falls apart. Wayne... a 2-star recruit whose only offers were Old Dominion and Pitt was FORCED into action because the COACHING STAFF CAN'T RECRUIT!!!

There is no way in hell a 2-star freshman should be your starting WR in year 5 of your program. You think narduzzi would have a 2-star lightly recruited freshman DB out there playing?!?

 

[PittFathead87]

I think this time of year, you are what your record says you are. And unfortunately, we’re just a slightly above average team but trending downward. These last two weeks were abysmal. Poor tackling, turnovers, no cohesion on offense at all, continual killer penalties.

It’s both the coaches and players. When you finish the season this poorly and appear to be getting worse not better, it’s everyone’s problem. Lack of development at the line, RB and QB. Fumbles and drops all year long. Poor play sequencing.

Very disappointing and horrible way to end the season.

 

[superstein61a]

You don’t get it. Going into today’s game: Pitt is the 3rd most penalized team in Division 1 averaging 8.5 penalties per game. Pitt has the most penalty yards per game against them out of all 130 D1 teams at 75 penalty yards per game.

Look back at the past 3-4 years you’ll see similar numbers.

If you don’t understand the significance and meaning of those numbers I don’t know what to tell you.

Those numbers mean nothing. That is what you fail to understand. You need context. What type of penalties. Some are boneheaded (aka false starts), some are a result of playing aggressive coverage in th secondary which is an ok tradeoff

And you are changing the subject, I was talking about the major mistakes today which were 4 turnovers. That was the difference in the game

 

[superstein61a]

Here's where your logic falls apart. Wayne... a 2-star recruit whose only offers were Old Dominion and Pitt was FORCED into action because the COACHING STAFF CAN'T RECRUIT!!!

There is no way in hell a 2-star freshman should be your starting WR in year 5 of your program. You think narduzzi would have a 2-star lightly recruited freshman DB out there playing?!?

Oh please, enough of this 2 star bullshit. Wayne earned his spot on the depth cart by outperforming others. He was vastly underrated due to playing QB in Canada and only playing WR 1 year at some super small school in florida

 

[H2P 2003]

Here's where your logic falls apart. Wayne... a 2-star recruit whose only offers were Old Dominion and Pitt was FORCED into action because the COACHING STAFF CAN'T RECRUIT!!!

There is no way in hell a 2-star freshman should be your starting WR in year 5 of your program. You think narduzzi would have a 2-star lightly recruited freshman DB out there playing?!?

I don’t get too caught up in recruiting rankings...but remember when the same people defending Narduzzi bashed Chryst for his recruiting of MAC level players?

the defensive talent under chryst was never great, but it NEVER got to the absolutely putrid level the offensive talent level is at now

 

[pittmeister]

It’s amazing to me that there are people who don’t recognize that these persistent mistakes in basic execution and unforced mental errors are a direct reflection on the coaching. Players make mistakes and miss assignments no matter who the coach is, that’s a fact. However, When it’s a routine occurrence and persistent epidemic such that you come to expect it every week, that’s a reflection on the coaching. These are the things good teams work on and drill over and over and over again in practice. Those players who can’t execute consistently and/or can’t stop making the mistakes don’t play on Saturdays.

Anyone who has played football at a competitive level, and who has played for multiple coaches, understands this.

Bravo!

 

[President Stache]

I don’t get too caught up in recruiting rankings...but remember when the same people defending Narduzzi bashed Chryst for his recruiting of MAC level players?

the defensive talent under chryst was never great, but it NEVER got to the absolutely putrid level the offensive talent level is at now

For the record I never bashed Chryst for anything. The only coach I literally didn’t like was Graham

 

[H2P 2003]

For the record I never bashed Chryst for anything. The only coach I literally didn’t like was Graham

more lying.

 

[revampedpanthers]

It’s amazing to me that there are people who don’t recognize that these persistent mistakes in basic execution and unforced mental errors are a direct reflection on the coaching. Players make mistakes and miss assignments no matter who the coach is, that’s a fact. However, When it’s a routine occurrence and persistent epidemic such that you come to expect it every week, that’s a reflection on the coaching. These are the things good teams work on and drill over and over and over again in practice. Those players who can’t execute consistently and/or can’t stop making the mistakes don’t play on Saturdays.

Anyone who has played football at a competitive level, and who has played for multiple coaches, understands this.

Agree and to me this is what is likely to get pn fired quicker than anything. AD's understand this as well. Anyone competent sees this as well. It is one of the easy inditements of a coaching staff. Xs and o's are one thing it's easy to argue for this call or that but mistake prone teams are easy to spot and that's on coaching

 

[revampedpanthers]

Bullshit. Lets look at who committed the errors today

Matthews a senior who has been reliable albeit not great. He was just plain lazy today

Davis a freshman fumbled. He had to play as the backup running back and he scored a TD on an explosive run. Freshman make mistakes at times

Wayne a freshman fumbled and ran the wrong route leading to the interception. He played so much because Mack was out. And he was the leading receiver. Again, freshman make mistakes at times

And ffrench a senior has had his share of fumbles, aj Davis fumbled as well a junior. They turned the ball over a disturbing amount this season and we're one of the worst in the country in penalties

 

[pittizit]

It was the players on the field, wearing the Blue and Gold uni’s, who turned the ball over 4 times, and couldn’t tackle worth a &!#*

But what WERE the coaches thinking when we had the ball at the 1/2 yd line; second down ... start of the 2nd Qtr; why the Wildcat? Take a snap under center, and run the f****** ball into the end zone!

Ahh ... mediocrity ... how well we embrace it!

Maybe next year, boys ... tough way for the Senior class to exit ... hope a few of them get to land on an NFL squad ... and the others graduate with pride

HTP!

Always NEXT YEAR..THE STORY OF PITT FOOTBALL

 

[Black_Man_Panther]

Oh please, enough of this 2 star bullshit. Wayne earned his spot on the depth cart by outperforming others. He was vastly underrated due to playing QB in Canada and only playing WR 1 year at some super small school in florida

Even Pickett mentioned him in the post-game. It's a problem. You don't lead the nation in drops for no reason. It wasn't some random event. Who did he outperform?? The walk-on John Vardzel? Yeah... that's who!

 

[pittbb80]

Bullshit. Lets look at who committed the errors today

Matthews a senior who has been reliable albeit not great. He was just plain lazy today

Davis a freshman fumbled. He had to play as the backup running back and he scored a TD on an explosive run. Freshman make mistakes at times

Wayne a freshman fumbled and ran the wrong route leading to the interception. He played so much because Mack was out. And he was the leading receiver. Again, freshman make mistakes at times

uh AJ Davis is NOT a freshman. He fumbled.

Also Wayne was not open. Yes he should have cut inside but that pass should not have been thrown

 

[revampedpanthers]

Here's where your logic falls apart. Wayne... a 2-star recruit whose only offers were Old Dominion and Pitt was FORCED into action because the COACHING STAFF CAN'T RECRUIT!!!

There is no way in hell a 2-star freshman should be your starting WR in year 5 of your program. You think narduzzi would have a 2-star lightly recruited freshman DB out there playing?!?

I disagree with you her, wayne is a talented player I don't care if he is a one star or a 5. I can accept that he had some screw ups but ffrench and Mack have had there's as well . It's a trend and it's not just a young team. To many penalties and to many turnovers

 

[superstein61a]

uh AJ Davis is NOT a freshman. He fumbled.

Also Wayne was not open. Yes he should have cut inside but that pass should not have been thrown

Both Davis's fumbled. The freshman as I noted and AJ Davis, who although he has been around, this year is his first real playing time

Last I checked, Narduzzi didn't fumble. Nor did the coaches not work on ball security

 

[gary2]

Here's where your logic falls apart. Wayne... a 2-star recruit whose only offers were Old Dominion and Pitt was FORCED into action because the COACHING STAFF CAN'T RECRUIT!!!

There is no way in hell a 2-star freshman should be your starting WR in year 5 of your program. You think narduzzi would have a 2-star lightly recruited freshman DB out there playing?!?

Wayne can play. He made some mistakes today. He had a drop, a fumble and ran the wrong route. How many did he catch? He is a true freshman . Maybe if he had played more early instead of Tipton, Mathews and Butler, he would not have made those mistakes. Jean Louis should have played more early as well.

Wayne played ahead of Butler, M.Smith and C.O'Neal. W/O Vardell played ahead of them too.

Playing Receivers like Tipton, Mathews, Jenkins, Griffin and Gragg and recruiting Smith and Oneal is why we lead the nation in drops.

Another thing, maybe you should have dependable veteran receivers before you start asking them to read the coverage on their routes.

 

[Black_Man_Panther]

Wayne can play. He made some mistakes today. He had a drop, a fumble and ran the wrong route. How many did he catch? He is a true freshman . Maybe if he had played more early instead of Tipton, Mathews and Butler, he would not have made those mistakes. Jean Louis should have played more early as well.

Wayne played ahead of Butler, M.Smith and C.O'Neal. W/O Vardell played ahead of them too.

Playing Receivers like Tipton, Mathews, Jenkins, Griffin and Gragg and recruiting Smith and Oneal is why we lead the nation in drops.

Another thing, maybe you should have dependable veteran receivers before you start asking them to read the coverage on their routes.

You are so full of yourself, it is unbelievable. You wonder why no one replies to your threads?

 

[sonofabit]

It’s amazing to me that there are people who don’t recognize that these persistent mistakes in basic execution and unforced mental errors are a direct reflection on the coaching. Players make mistakes and miss assignments no matter who the coach is, that’s a fact. However, When it’s a routine occurrence and persistent epidemic such that you come to expect it every week, that’s a reflection on the coaching. These are the things good teams work on and drill over and over and over again in practice. Those players who can’t execute consistently and/or can’t stop making the mistakes don’t play on Saturdays.
Anyone who has played football at a competitive level, and who has played for multiple coaches, understands this.

Take a look at Canada's offense if you will. The Clemson game is readily available for viewing. The precision. The presnap motion. Intricate indeed. Discipline galore. Same head coach. Something changed. A college defense as good as Clemson's had a hard time tracking the TE's and shifting RB's. Granted the RB was one of the best and the TE's went to the Sunday league.

 

[HailToPitt1985]

Well, we could extend decade to this entire century, as long as we’re at it!! 80 years to achieve a season with double digit victories ... what are the odds???

We won't be playing football, at least at this level, within the next 50 years, let alone 100 years. College football as it exists today will cease to exist and programs like Pitt's will disappear.

 

[PittFamily2]

It was the players on the field, wearing the Blue and Gold uni’s, who turned the ball over 4 times, and couldn’t tackle worth a &!#*

But what WERE the coaches thinking when we had the ball at the 1/2 yd line; second down ... start of the 2nd Qtr; why the Wildcat? Take a snap under center, and run the f****** ball into the end zone!

Ahh ... mediocrity ... how well we embrace it!

Maybe next year, boys ... tough way for the Senior class to exit ... hope a few of them get to land on an NFL squad ... and the others graduate with pride

HTP!

Not only did he Recruit the players who cant catch, turn the ball over, cant tackle, or block but he and they coach and train the players almost everyday during football season.

Maybe they should take the coaching staff cell phones away during practice are they actually paying attention?

Something isn't right when it comes to PITT football.

 

[TheSpecialSauce]

Take a look at Canada's offense if you will. The Clemson game is readily available for viewing. The precision. The presnap motion. Intricate indeed. Discipline galore. Same head coach. Something changed. A college defense as good as Clemson's had a hard time tracking the TE's and shifting RB's. Granted the RB was one of the best and the TE's went to the Sunday league.

I agree with you that Canada did a nice job here, but he also had a lot more talent to work with.

 

[TheSpecialSauce]

We won't be playing football, at least at this level, within the next 50 years, let alone 100 years. College football as it exists today will cease to exist and programs like Pitt's will disappear.

So how exactly do you foresee a 12 game schedule for a school like Ohio State? Factor in that they want 7 or more home games to bring in maximum revenue. Let’s hear it.