Bertke/DiNucci/MacVittie

[Sean Miller Fan]

We are 1 play away from handing our season over to a young inexperienced, lower-rated (based on scholarship offers) QB. Those guys may be the next Tony Pike and come off the bench and become an All-American......or they may be the next Pat Bostick and look unready.

I am disappointed Chad didnt wait for the new OC to see if he would declare an open competition and give him a fair shot to win the job.

Its rare for a QB to make it through the season injury free. Hopefully the young QBs are ready to perform at the ACC level.

 

[PantherO]

Considering how many HC and OC Chad went through, can you really blame him? It is hard to be disappointed in him.

I hope he finds somewhere that he can play. He deserves it.

 

[dooz3]

We are 1 play away from handing our season over to a young inexperienced, lower-rated (based on scholarship offers) QB. Those guys may be the next Tony Pike and come off the bench and become an All-American......or they may be the next Pat Bostick and look unready.

I am disappointed Chad didnt wait for the new OC to see if he would declare an open competition and give him a fair shot to win the job.

Its rare for a QB to make it through the season injury free. Hopefully the young QBs are ready to perform at the ACC level.

Once again you prove just how big an idiot and a hater yoyu are. A kid does what he thinks is best for him. It is arrogant of you to say he should have done this or that or waited. You don't know shiite about him or his desires or needs or hopes. But you know how to belittle every one who has or had something to do with Pitt except of course for Miller whom you love because he left Pitt on bad terms. You are a true fraud. Congratulations on being the world's biggest loser.

 

[Piranha]

We are 1 play away from handing our season over to a young inexperienced, lower-rated (based on scholarship offers) QB. Those guys may be the next Tony Pike and come off the bench and become an All-American......or they may be the next Pat Bostick and look unready.

I am disappointed Chad didnt wait for the new OC to see if he would declare an open competition and give him a fair shot to win the job.

Its rare for a QB to make it through the season injury free. Hopefully the young QBs are ready to perform at the ACC level.

You would think he might wait to at least talk to the new OC. Is he transferring right now or after the Spring Semester?

 

[Jeffburgh]

This is no different from any other team in college football with players having four years.

You either have a good starter who gets all the snaps, and the laws of physics being the laws of physics, or something like that, therefor no other QB can play and they have no experience.

OR, you don't have a good starter and are mixing and matching, and you have a bit of a mess at the position.

That is why the time to make a run and win big for most teams is with a junior or senior QB.

Not saying they shouldn't get another guy for competition and depth, but I am not all gushy over some fringy JC QB. Nate isn't a game changer, but hard to see some borderline JC guy being any better.

But, they see Bertke and DiNunccio and have a good sense if either of them have a shot at being a viable D1 QB ...

 

[Swervin27]

how many programs have a good back up? I am sure there are some but there are a lot more that dont'. We are not Alabama or Tosu.. We are an average to slightly above average P5 team. I would bet very few programs that are similar to us in the college football world can say they have a backup QB that they can win consistently with.. We need to hope any injuries to Nate are short in rehab time, have a backup that can play and not suck for that short period of time and go from there. To expect a backup to pick up with no drop off, over a significant part of time, is unrealistic.

 

[thebadby2]

Considering how many HC and OC Chad went through, can you really blame him? It is hard to be disappointed in him.

I hope he finds somewhere that he can play. He deserves it.

Amen.

Truth is Pitt was not a fit for him as soon as PC came in with the pro-style O. He was recruited specifically to run the spread. The good business decision would have been to leave then. All the best to him, total class act and victim of circumstance.

 

[Cap pitt]

Once again you prove just how big an idiot and a hater yoyu are. A kid does what he thinks is best for him. It is arrogant of you to say he should have done this or that or waited. You don't know shiite about him or his desires or needs or hopes. But you know how to belittle every one who has or had something to do with Pitt except of course for Miller whom you love because he left Pitt on bad terms. You are a true fraud. Congratulations on being the world's biggest loser.

If it's all about football, which it must be, I think he should have waited too, no matter where he goes he will have to compete for a job, where everything will be new to him, with a new OC he would have had the same opportunity as Nate or any of the other Qbs and all are starting over, Nate isn't guaranteed the starting job, Chad might go somewhere else and sit the bench and nothing will be gained, because this is all about football or he wouldn't be leaving, I think Chad should have had more opportunity to play more, but everyone knew that Nate was chaneys boy but now Chaney is gone, so just sayin but I do wish Chad well and I hope he gets his starting job

 

[oldpantherfan]

I'm alright with Voytik transferring. he I doing what's best for him, just like Flacco did. We were all ok when he did what he thought was best and decided to come play at Pitt. So we shouldn't be mad when he leaves because it is no longer the ideal situation for him.

My problem is the back ups. We need to recruit better. Unlike others I don't have a lot of faith in our back ups. I know many of you don't agree with me but honestly it's time to recruit better QB's which we haven't done since Wannestedt and Harris.

A lot of programs have good back ups, I don't understand why somebody thinks they don't. it's a Pitt problem and has been for awhile. We were all excited when chapman came and disappointed in how and when he left. And most were happy with Peterman which turned out ok.

Despite Boyd leaving, we will still have a powerful offense under Narduzzi, Peterman, and who ever the new OC is. I just don't have confidence in the back ups if Peterman gets hurt or struggles.

Talent , potential or now. Playing time makes a difference, which is why they went after Peterman in the first place. I think we should all be honest and admit that we need a better QB and not have one can have adverse effect on the season, and set the program back.

 

[9nationalchampionships]

Does anyone think we will add another QB in this class? I think we will

 

[thebadby2]

how many programs have a good back up? I am sure there are some but there are a lot more that dont'. We are not Alabama or Tosu.. We are an average to slightly above average P5 team. I would bet very few programs that are similar to us in the college football world can say they have a backup QB that they can win consistently with.. We need to hope any injuries to Nate are short in rehab time, have a backup that can play and not suck for that short period of time and go from there. To expect a backup to pick up with no drop off, over a significant part of time, is unrealistic.

Very true, but it's critical for every team to make sure they have some quality depth at QB. And who knows, maybe we have a good backup already? Bertke looked pretty good on video this spring, he has a cannon, can run pretty well for a big dude, and has good size for the QB in our system. After watching the vid of his spring performance, he reminded me a bit of another overlooked Ohio QB recruit, Connor Cook. Bertke will just be a RS sophomore this season, hopefully he sticks around long enough to get his shot. That said, keep on recruiting those QBs, more than any other position it's a numbers game--the more of QBs you have competing in practice, the more likely you'll be to find that one special one that nobody saw coming.

 

[Rockyhound]

Does anyone think we will add another QB in this class? I think we will

Wasn't there a JC QB that was coming in to visit?

 

[pittdan77]

He had to move now before all of the ships were handed out. So waiting doesn't benefit him and I doubt the new OC is going to change things up that much. If things go well, whoever is at QB will be turning and handing off more than half the time anyway.

 

[Pitt79]

Honestly? Who cares about Chad! He was likely going to be a senior backup who hardly plays, he was never that great to begin with, especially as a passer, that was proven by losing the job after a full year as a starter. And who's to say that one of these rookies won't come in and succeed? And isn't everybody somewhat "unready'' the 1st time they play? As for Bostick, if I'm not mistaken, he wasn't "low rated", wasn't he like a 4 star recruit?

 

[Swervin27]

I don't disagree with you guys that we need to upgrade our QB talent and depth. It's been a liability for us for, well for decades to be honest. A couple brief moments with Rod, Tyler, but yeah, at best we've been adequate (Savage, Stull's senior year, Priestley) and the rest has been subpar.. My real point is that I cant see us bringing in a big improvement between now and Fall.. It would be a true "hidden gem" find.. But absolutely do we need to continue to recruit higher level talent at the position.

 

[vegasgreed]

bottom line, qb depth not great. we have two backups that were lightly recruited.

 

[raleighpanther]

Its hard to have a good backup, and better recruiting won't necessarily solve it. Flacco was a very good backup...so he transferred. When two talented guys are roughly the same year, the one who loses the starting competition wants to play and often looks to transfer. And in Flacco's case, it worked out great for him. And its working out for Peterman, in the opposite, positive direction for Pitt.
What you have to have is what Pitt has, which is a returning senior starter, and a stud freshman, QB of the future, who will willingly be groomed as a redshirt his freshman year, and then look to be the starter the next. And then hopefully, the upperclass backup QBs are serviceable enough to step in in case of injury (and neither has a big enough head to think about transferring). The question is whether either Bertke or DiNucci is immediately serviceable if suddenly thrown into action.

 

[thebadby2]

Its hard to have a good backup, and better recruiting won't necessarily solve it. Flacco was a very good backup...so he transferred. When two talented guys are roughly the same year, the one who loses the starting competition wants to play and often looks to transfer. And in Flacco's case, it worked out great for him. And its working out for Peterman, in the opposite, positive direction for Pitt.
What you have to have is what Pitt has, which is a returning senior starter, and a stud freshman, QB of the future, who will willingly be groomed as a redshirt his freshman year, and then look to be the starter the next. And then hopefully, the upperclass backup QBs are serviceable enough to step in in case of injury (and neither has a big enough head to think about transferring). The question is whether either Bertke or DiNucci is immediately serviceable if suddenly thrown into action.

all true. Best case scenario is you redshirt your freshmen QBs and by the time they're RS sophs one or two of them are in position to be a capable backup and potential future starter.

 

[DC_Area_Panther]

The reality is that we know nothing about what coach Narduzzi actually thinks about our QB situation. He may be perfectly happy with Voytik leaving and opening up an additional ship for this recruiting class because he may really like what he has seen in practice improvement from Bertke and/or one of the other no game experience young QBs.

This entire thread is pure hand-wringing speculation--but, that is okay--it is what fans do.

 

[MajorMajors]

This thread raised my curiosity about our former backup QB Trey Anderson, who ended up at FIU for his final year.

Trey Anderson's stats at FIU for 2015 season:
Games played = 5
Pass attempts - 20
Completions = 5
Passing Yards = 132
TD passes = 1
QB rating = 96.9
Rushing -- 10 attempts for 90 yards.

BTW, the starter for FIU, a 6-3 and 218# Soph. who had started as a Freshman, completed 269 of 420 attempts for 2722 yards and 21 TDs.

Hope Chad finds a place where he can be the starter.

Go Pitt.

 

[doubleAA's]

I dont see anything wrong with Sean Miller's original post, he is correct on probably Chad should have waited.

But then, you other posters are also correct that Chad can do as he sees fit. It is easy to criticize, but obviously Chad is a very mature guy that is straight thinking and had to make a snap decision and he made it. It is far better than wondering 'what if' later.

I liked Chad as the QB and I liked Peterman as the QB. It is just numbers, and Chad doesnt like this particular competition, I dont blame him. He is handling it very classy

 

[DruidTM]

We are 1 play away from handing our season over to a young inexperienced, lower-rated (based on scholarship offers) QB. Those guys may be the next Tony Pike and come off the bench and become an All-American......or they may be the next Pat Bostick and look unready.

I am disappointed Chad didnt wait for the new OC to see if he would declare an open competition and give him a fair shot to win the job.

Its rare for a QB to make it through the season injury free. Hopefully the young QBs are ready to perform at the ACC level.

I'm disappointed in posters who don't wait until they know something about what they are posting before they go ahead and post dumb stuff.

 

[wbrpanther]

Once again you prove just how big an idiot and a hater yoyu are. A kid does what he thinks is best for him. It is arrogant of you to say he should have done this or that or waited. You don't know shiite about him or his desires or needs or hopes. But you know how to belittle every one who has or had something to do with Pitt except of course for Miller whom you love because he left Pitt on bad terms. You are a true fraud. Congratulations on being the world's biggest loser.

Your post is an insult to the idiots of the world.

 

[melwood]

We are 1 play away from handing our season over to a young inexperienced, lower-rated (based on scholarship offers) QB. Those guys may be the next Tony Pike and come off the bench and become an All-American......or they may be the next Pat Bostick and look unready.

I am disappointed Chad didnt wait for the new OC to see if he would declare an open competition and give him a fair shot to win the job.

Its rare for a QB to make it through the season injury free. Hopefully the young QBs are ready to perform at the ACC level.

Look, they were all 3* recruits with (some) P5 offers. What more do we want? Hell, DiNucci is the all time leader in the state, right?? I hope they target some 'bigger' QB recruits next year, but we're not doomed with those guys. Hell, Peterman was a 4* from Florida, took an SEC offer, now here's ours. 'Stars' only tell part of the story. We'll be fine. Either they can play or they can't...

 

[ClarkLotTgate]

Wasn't there a JC QB that was coming in to visit?

Andrew Ford
from the Harrisburg area.
Left VTech after 1 year (Red Shirted) and transferred to JUCO Lackawanna College

no clue if he's decent or not, but he is in the top 100 JUCO list...FWIW

Statistics category Overall
Completions 110
Attempts 195
Completion % 56.4%
Yards 1764
Yards per game 196.0
Yards per attempt 9.0
Touchdowns 23
Interceptions 6
Sacks 16
Yards lost 90

 

[DC_Area_Panther]

Andrew Ford
from the Harrisburg area.
Left VTech after 1 year (Red Shirted) and transferred to JUCO Lackawanna College

no clue if he's decent or not, but he is in the top 100 JUCO list...FWIW

Statistics category Overall
Completions 110
Attempts 195
Completion % 56.4%
Yards 1764
Yards per game 196.0
Yards per attempt 9.0
Touchdowns 23
Interceptions 6
Sacks 16
Yards lost 90

Worked out at a Pitt Camp just before signing with VTech--I watched him throw. He was okay but not spectacular. Chryst may not have offered. Don't know.

 

[PITTLAW]

I'm alright with Voytik transferring. he I doing what's best for him, just like Flacco did. We were all ok when he did what he thought was best and decided to come play at Pitt. So we shouldn't be mad when he leaves because it is no longer the ideal situation for him.

My problem is the back ups. We need to recruit better. Unlike others I don't have a lot of faith in our back ups. I know many of you don't agree with me but honestly it's time to recruit better QB's which we haven't done since Wannestedt and Harris.

A lot of programs have good back ups, I don't understand why somebody thinks they don't. it's a Pitt problem and has been for awhile. We were all excited when chapman came and disappointed in how and when he left. And most were happy with Peterman which turned out ok.

Despite Boyd leaving, we will still have a powerful offense under Narduzzi, Peterman, and who ever the new OC is. I just don't have confidence in the back ups if Peterman gets hurt or struggles.

Talent , potential or now. Playing time makes a difference, which is why they went after Peterman in the first place. I think we should all be honest and admit that we need a better QB and not have one can have adverse effect on the season, and set the program back.

How would you know whether the young guys on the roster can or cannot do it? None of them have been given an opportunity to take a snap, let alone throw a ball. Perhaps you are right...and they suck? But until they are given a chance to play--it is pretty unfair to criticize them for their lack of opportunity to play. I was not blown away with Chaney or the play call in 2015. I am hoping the next OC is better. We shall see. Hail to Pitt!

 

[ClarkLotTgate]

with our RB's and O-line.... anyone with low-level P5 talent should be able to keep the shit afloat, should Pederman get hurt.

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

Is he transferring right now or after the Spring Semester?

He can't actually transfer right now. He has to graduate this spring in order to be immediately eligible wherever he goes next.

But he also can't wait until then to decide where to go, at least not if he wants to find a place where he has a good chance of becoming the starter.

 

[H2P-2007]

I think MacVittie is big time and I am super excited for him to be a panther. If he didn't commit to Pitt early and shut down his recruiting and prospect camps he would be a 4* for sure.

We talk about the star ratings a lot, and IMO that is the downfall. But, in the end, who cares? Pitt gets the real player, not the one on paper.

 

[BFo8]

This thread raised my curiosity about our former backup QB Trey Anderson, who ended up at FIU for his final year.

Trey Anderson's stats at FIU for 2015 season:
Games played = 5
Pass attempts - 20
Completions = 5
Passing Yards = 132
TD passes = 1
QB rating = 96.9
Rushing -- 10 attempts for 90 yards.

BTW, the starter for FIU, a 6-3 and 218# Soph. who had started as a Freshman, completed 269 of 420 attempts for 2722 yards and 21 TDs.

Hope Chad finds a place where he can be the starter.

Go Pitt.

The difference being of course that Anderson couldn't play a lick, while Voytik certainly can.

 

[TIGER-PAUL]

Another QB would give us 5 on scholarship. Do we usually have that many?

 

[Slick Manager of Champs]

The difference being of course that Anderson couldn't play a lick, while Voytik certainly can.

Remember when Graham briefly benched Tino and tried to go with Anderson in the 4th quarter against Louisville? Showed what a complete knucklehead of a coach Graham was since as you said Anderson was ill-equipped to be a D1 QB.

 

[BFo8]

Remember when Graham briefly benched Tino and tried to go with Anderson in the 4th quarter against Louisville? Showed what a complete knucklehead of a coach Graham was since as you said Anderson was ill-equipped to be a D1 QB.

It was unbelievable. I remember thinking it was pretty cool that a totally unrecruited kid from a power Texas high school had somehow made his way to Pitt. I thought maybe his height was the sole reason no one would give him a shot, and in Graham's offense maybe he could come in and do some spot duty at least.

Then of course we saw him play. By all accounts he was a good kid and solid student, but damn if he wasn't one of the worst QB's I have ever seen. Deer in the headlights does not do it justice. I saw him play once for FIU this year and it was exactly the same thing. It shows you how hard it is to be a quarterback at the higher levels.

 

[Teh Teh]

Well, obviously none of us have seen these guys in game action for Pitt. But you have to like the options, we have several different distinct types of QBs, seemingly all can throw the rock and have decent legs.

Been a fan a long time though, and seen the big next big QB that kinda fizzles out. I remember all of us clamoring for Mark Myers, but he ended up throwing like Mike Myers (comedian or horror movie, doesnt matter). But it is looking like one of these three will be a good QB, one will be a good backup and the other will probably transfer? We shall see, will be interesting.