Biden campaign adamantly denies allegation of sexual assault By Brooke Singman | Fox News

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  1. Pantherguy4

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    Gerald Ford was a devoted family man.
     
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    why isnt cnn all over that??. lol
     
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    I am seeing your point and I agree. The MSM is generally the worst place to get any news or factual information, that's for sure. NOTHING can ever be verified there. That's why I don't understand J's comment that he will wait until something is verified by the MSM, citing the NYT, WaPo, and WSJ and the networks. It would be better to talk with your Uncle Charlie to get it verified.
     
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    @PittFamily2 @fkthomas @HailToPitt1985 @NCPitt @revampedpanthers

    I can’t saying whether or not Biden did commit sexual assault. We'll have to wait for more facts to come out. However, he has a very good reputation with many Republicans and for what it’s worth, Lindsay Graham has said that he is the best liked politician in DC. We’ll have to wait and see. The far right is currently being accused of passing off fake attacks. They did a major job on Hillary Clinton.

    However, on the other side of this issue is Trump. A winner not according to the record. He has failed at every endeavor except the TV show apprentice for which he wasn’t the producer or director. I have listed them elsewhere. His sexual assaults are numerous. His business reputation is so bad that he can not borrow from any financial institution in America. The only creditor is the Deutsche bank that has many accusation of non compliance with US Treasury regulations with regard to multi million dollar transactions. He is being investigated for that as well as his financial records and tax returns.

    His job performance is awful. He doesn’t read anything, doesn’t analyze facts and figures, and he is a very poor communicator. He uses the same inflammatory words to praise himself or criticize. But the underlining problem is his desire to engender loyalty to himself rather than to the country. Therefore he doesn’t surround himself with he best advisors but those who are most loyal to him.

    And finally the outstanding reporters at the NYTimes, Wash Post & WSJ keep the public informed and attempt to keep the politicians honest and accountable.
     
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    No one here can say whether it happened or not. That would be an unreasonable expectation for us to ask that of you. But you seemed to be saying that the story wouldn't be real to you unless specific news sources reported it.

    The rest of your post is usual garbage.
     
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    Only made it through your first paragraph. Frankly, We have other things to worry about right now. You don’t have to defend biden to us, we don’t really care. We have seen plenty of hit jobs from the left, and this is likely another one. But only this time it’s the left going after each other.
     
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    I agree. Biden was a useful tool to take out Bernie. Now they recognize that he can't win so its time to push him out for some chosen savior.
     
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    It’s humorous that Biden has an accuser and Gregor finds a way to bring the Right into the discussion. Why would the Right do this now and not closer to the General Election. There are other entities who benefit from it now and it’s not Republicans. Think @JGregor, think!!
     
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    although they didn’t ask him question about it today on NBC so perhaps they are waiting to see how the virus pans out before they have the useful idiots in the media go after him.
     
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    It seems to me that quite a few people on the left in this forum are still having a very difficult time grasping facts as they continue to manufacture lies. That isn't very productive.

    This isn't about politics. There are a lot more important things to do now than discuss politics or some meaningless opinion pieces in the MSM that have a total lack of credibility or quality. I don't care what the MSM says or wants to say at this point. I'm using my head and ignoring them.
     
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    Very appropriate term there NC, seeing as their chosen savior will likely end up being their sacrificial lamb.
     
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    How else are we to find out the facts?

    What’s garbage to you are actual facts.
     
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    You miss read my statement. I didn’t say the far right is responsible for the accusation, only that they are currently being accused of putting out their false and fake attacks.
     
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    Many sources report the facts. Your sources have their biases. The fact they apparently haven't had a story on the accusations against Biden prove that.

    Your sources seemingly ignore facts they don't like.
     
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    Are the accusers of the far right part of the Me Too movement where all women are to be believed?
     
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    Accused by who? The Left? Are you being duped again?
     
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    My sources have not called me on the phone or sent me an email. If it is a story it will be reported.

    And if it is a real story would it be more important than the many Trump attacks?
     
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    I’m not an investigative journalist. But you seem to be up top of this story. Who is reporting it. Fox?
    By the way, if you are primarily getting your stories from Fox you are definitely being duped.
     
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    That is a low life question. All women/accusers should be taken seriously and you know that and why would you expect me to feel otherwise?
     
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    So why is the woman who accused Biden being dismissed by Dems and the media
     
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    Haven’t seen it on Fox. But I have seen it in Vox, huffington post, Real Clear Politics and Newsweek.

    I’m not really paying much attention to it, I just want the media and Dems to treat this this same way they treated Cavanaugh.

    https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_...L10gf-MD16TK2m8WMptz8LPC6BVdjlBRSR-6fO7k_Lhi4
     
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    So it isn't a story? The woman nor her accusations don't exist in reality? After all, you haven't seen them.

    It has as much credibility (or more) as any accusation against Trump. One big difference is that Biden says that all women should be believed. He suddenly changed his tune as have the Me Too movement. Hypocrisy reigns on the left.
     
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    Because you aren't taking it seriously. Nor is Biden. Nor are the Me Too democrats.

    So why aren't you taking it seriously?
     
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    Especially when Biden has 9 women accusing him of sexual assault!
     
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    Its all over except for the mainstream media. Here's an excerpt from Reason:

    Reade describes herself as a "California-based victim rights advocate and activist" in her interview with the journalist Katie Halper, who has helped bring this accusation to light. Reade says she worked for Biden in the early 1990s and asserts that she was unambiguously assaulted by him in 1993. According to Reade, he began kissing her without her permission, pushed her against a wall, reached under her skirt, and penetrated her with his fingers.

    "He said 'come on man, I heard you liked me,'" Reade recalled to Halper in the interview. "For me, it was like, everything shattered. I looked up to him, he was like my father's age, he was this champion of women's rights, in my eyes. I couldn't believe it was happening. It was surreal."

    Reade had already complained to her bosses about sexual harassment in Biden's office—she said a supervisor had once asked her to serve drinks at an event because she had attractive legs—but had shared the more serious accusation against Biden with a few close confidants. She said she once tried to talk to a supervisor about what had happened, but this person shut her down before she could tell the whole story. She also said she filled out an official form detailing her assault, but does not know what became of it
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    The last part is key. She complained about it the time.

    Now to address the question of why the MSM is ignoring it, from The Guardian:

    The accusations against the former vice-president are serious; why aren’t they being taken seriously?

    One obvious reason is that Reade’s accusations are very hard to prove. The incident happened a long time ago and there weren’t any witnesses. Reade also gave a slightly different version of events last year; she accused Biden of touching her neck and shoulders in a way that was inappropriate and uncomfortable, but did not say anything sexual took place. This inconsistency obviously doesn’t mean she’s lying; unfortunately, it is easy to use against her.

    Reade’s story may be impossible to verify, but this is the case with the vast majority of sexual assault allegations. It is nearly always a case of “he said, she said” – and it is nearly always the “he’ that is automatically believed. The #MeToo mantra “Believe Women” doesn’t mean that women never lie; it means that our systems of power are biased towards believing men never lie. It means that it takes decades of allegations and scores of women coming forward for powerful men like Harvey Weinstein, Jeffrey Epstein and Bill Cosby to be brought to justice. All the mantra means is that you shouldn’t automatically disbelieve women.

    You know who has talked publicly about the importance of taking women seriously? Biden. During the Brett Kavanaugh hearings, Biden stood up for Dr Christine Blasey Ford, noting: “For a woman to come forward in the glaring lights of focus, nationally, you’ve got to start off with the presumption that at least the essence of what she’s talking about is real.”

    Does this presumption not apply when the guy being accused is a Democrat running for president? It would seem that way. In January, according to reporting from the Intercept, Reade asked for help from the Time’s Up Legal Defense Fund, which has supported accusers of high-profile people like Weinstein. Reade was reportedly told by the National Women’s Law Center, the organization within which the Time’s Up fund is housed, that it couldn’t assist with accusations against a presidential candidate because it would jeopardize their non-profit status. The Intercept further notes that “the public relations firm that works on behalf of the Time’s Up Legal Defense Fund is SKDKnickerbocker, whose managing director, Anita Dunn, is the top adviser to Biden’s presidential campaign”
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    I see what you did there lol.
     
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    @NCPitt @fkthomas

    I saw where Vox had reported the story as did others. I checked out the Vox report since I have the highest respect for Ezra Klein the co-founder and editor in chief. The story needs to be taken seriously and Biden needs to respond. Let’s get to the bottom of it.
     
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    If you get your stories from any of the MSM, not just Fox, you are being duped. It doesn't matter where it comes from in the MSM...newspaper, radio, TV. They're all giving out false information and misleading sensationalism. You just have to use your head and sift through the lies and sometimes get a small tidbit of fact.
     
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    Keep me posted, as I won’t be paying much attention to it until the time comes when/if the mainstream covers it. At which time, if you see MSNBC, CNN, NYT and WaPo covering it the way they covered Cavanaugh, then you’ll know there’s an organized effort on the Left with the help of their mainstream media friends to replace Joe with someone who can beat trump.
     
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    Good. Maybe you learned a lesson that other sources have reliable news before your trusted sources do.
     
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    This is true. When the MSM covers something like this, they have to have a specific agenda in mind that either benefits the left or slams the right. If it doesn't do one of those 2 things, they won't say Boo about it.
     
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    I’m not that down on serious reporters or news coverage. There are many truth finders and reporters. Also, you can with your intelligence most often weed out the Truth from the propaganda.
     
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    the issue is this is the stance ONLY when its one side of the isle being blamed. horrible double standard.

    you would have thought a decade old affair was one where top secret gov info was obtained by a porn star. the encounters were consensual and instead of outing the blackmail of a public official they go after the victim of the blackmail. insane
     
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    I have always learned lessons. Not stagnant. I have never stopped. But Ezra Klein has always been a top reporter. Check out his credentials. His coverage attempts to be balanced with good research and facts.
     
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    You were doing fine until you went over the cliff.

    The main goal has to be getting to the truth. If it’s not about beating Trump because then the motive is wrong. Besides Trump has shown and proven he doesn’t belong as President.

    The situation with Kavanaugh was entirely different. He was going for a lifetime appointment and the accuser was highly credible and the accusation was rape. The accuser’s testimony was deeply compelling and she is a PhD in psychology with an MS from Stanford & a PhD from USC, and a professor. In addition, there were other accusers and he was an admitted heavy beer drinker at the time.

    So you may be proud of the fact that we now have two sexual assaulters sitting on the S C. Both are conservatives appointed by Republicans.

    Nothing but the facts.
     
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    You are so full of $hit it’s unbelievable. So let me get this straight. The more educated one is, the more credible that makes them? The background of the woman does not make her any more credible than anyone else. And the fact that Cavanaugh allegedly penetrated her with his genitalia is no different than Biden penetrating a victim with his fingers. And Biden has more accusers through the years than Cavanaugh. The mental gymnastics you go through to support your people is something to behold.
     
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    Watch it there buster. You're messin' with Ric's chick....er dude....er however she identifies.
     
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    Why does anyone listen to anything the MSM says about any issue? They have zero credibility.
     

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