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(BTW, doke is the best)doke advised on his blog, haygood named HFC

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at texas southern, good for the haymaker. he needs to earn a living, he has coaching skills, and someone is giving him another chance. I hope he succeeds. for my own curiosity,I would like to know what former AD Pederson saw in him. I've got" texas southern FB" on my google alert.

honestly, with all the pitt centric blogs available for free there has never a better time to be a pitt fan.
 
Well, in the seasons prior to Haygood's arrival, Miami (OH) went 7-4, 2-10, 6-7 (includes loss in MAC title game), and 2-10.
After opening his career with a 1-11 mark, Miami went 8-4, plus they upset #23 Northern Illinois in the MAC title game to win the conference. So there's the likely appeal, very similar to why a bunch of us worried about Narduzzi being poached.
That, and he was at a price Pitt could afford.

I'm not convinced he would have been a flop, but agree in that he definitely wasn't a sexy pick.
But yeah, good for him.
 
Not meant in a racist way, but I think what we are seeing at Purdue is what we would have seen here with Haywood. Similar in resumes
 
I think it was a good disclaimer. Remove any potential misconstrued points to enable responders to stay on main point. Considerate. We're all typing here. Intentions are often misinterpreted. I've seen many nasty quarrels with threads 5-6 pages long simply due to misunderstanding.
 
Yes , he has like a wife, kids with her, and then like 3 mistresses some kids with them, so he needs a job! POS LOSER
 
Everybody has a Divine Light within them, and after making a mistake went into taking a Oil Job in Houston, but kept his Child Support Payments up and settled with Pitt, another Pederson mistake on Pitt Dime?

There is more Money in College Football for a good coach and going back to it is Haywood option and now he is starting over.

Petrino and other coaches have embarrassed himself and his family, and Haywood truly hurt the Mother of his Child, as Mike Vick killed Dogs that loved him.


Vick went to Jail for it, but does more for Animal Welfare of Abused Animals and atoned for his crimes and being young and dumb Some will forgive him in Public and others never will, no matter what he does, but that is trail of learning after the fall.

Petrino admitted his sins and went back to Non-Power Conferences Coaching and Bankruptcy, but came back with his own Mea Culpas that some still don't believe, but that is the price one pays for those errors of judgement. Some still think he is a sleaze and other don't care so long a she wins.

Haywood and his Abuse of the Mother of His Children just like Ray Rice will never be accepted by the Public without their pasts following them, but they have taken counseling and asked for forgiveness. Some now know when your greatest opportunity comes in your life, it can be taken away, by how you act towards others.

Unlike Larry Johnson that did it more than 4 times and his ended his career too. This is a different time now and that won't be tolerated by any NFL Teams anymore.

Societal Values have changed and for the good, and Vick and Haywood changed themselves and learned, and I have no problem with them starting over to be better Player or Coach and most of all Men!


To me, it is what you do after you make big mistakes and commit crimes and how you rehabilitate and ask for forgiveness and learn not to do it again.

America was built on Second Chances if you admit you made mistakes and learned from them.


My view not gospel, and others can differ with no offense given or taken!
 
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The Haywood presser was one of my all-time favorite moments in Pitt history.

It was simultaneously puzzling and confusing and disturbing and hilarious and depressing. It was incredible the gamut of emotions I went through the day.

It confirmed all of my worst fears about how that athletic department was being run.

First, let me just talk about his surly demeanor. He seemed borderline irate with everyone in the room right from the start. I have never seen that strategy employed before at an introductory press conference.

It was almost as if he wanted to fistfight some of the reporters in attendance.

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Then he went on and on and compared himself to a fictional mass murderer, promised his players would look him in the eye and sit up straight, and finally concluded with an andidote about how he has always like to take catnaps at his locker just before kick off.

freddy3.jpg


It left everyone in attendance, and those watching at home, looking at each other in complete bewilderment.

Awesome!

Perhaps the best part was reading this message board in the immediate aftermath. People were doing whatever they could to try and justify the bizarre behavior we had all just witnessed from our new head football coach.

I remember people vowing to run through a wall for the guy wondering if we had just watched the same press conference?

Then, a few days later, he beat the hell out of his baby mama and it surprised absolutely nobody who had seen that lunatic's surreal press conference performance.

Good times!

I used to re-watch the press conference when I needed a lift. Nowadays, I just resort to this…
 
The Haywood presser was one of my all-time favorite moments in Pitt history.

It was simultaneously puzzling and confusing and disturbing and hilarious and depressing. It was incredible the gamut of emotions I went through the day.

Perhaps the best part was reading this message board in the immediate aftermath. People were doing whatever they could to try and justify the bizarre behavior we had all just witnessed from our new head football coach.
By far the best part. The same apologists for every single coach or Pitt move were in rare form. And it exploded in their faces in no time.
 
The Haywood presser was one of my all-time favorite moments in Pitt history.

It was simultaneously puzzling and confusing and disturbing and hilarious and depressing. It was incredible the gamut of emotions I went through the day.

It confirmed all of my worst fears about how that athletic department was being run.

First, let me just talk about his surly demeanor. He seemed borderline irate with everyone in the room right from the start. I have never seen that strategy employed before at an introductory press conference.

It was almost as if he wanted to fistfight some of the reporters in attendance.

haywood.jpg


Then he went on and on and compared himself to a fictional mass murderer, promised his players would look him in the eye and sit up straight, and finally concluded with an andidote about how he has always like to take catnaps at his locker just before kick off.

freddy3.jpg


It left everyone in attendance, and those watching at home, looking at each other in complete bewilderment.

Awesome!

Perhaps the best part was reading this message board in the immediate aftermath. People were doing whatever they could to try and justify the bizarre behavior we had all just witnessed from our new head football coach.

I remember people vowing to run through a wall for the guy wondering if we had just watched the same press conference?

Then, a few days later, he beat the hell out of his baby mama and it surprised absolutely nobody who had seen that lunatic's surreal press conference performance.

Good times!

I used to re-watch the press conference when I needed a lift. Nowadays, I just resort to this…
The Haywood presser was one of my all-time favorite moments in Pitt history.

It was simultaneously puzzling and confusing and disturbing and hilarious and depressing. It was incredible the gamut of emotions I went through the day.

It confirmed all of my worst fears about how that athletic department was being run.

First, let me just talk about his surly demeanor. He seemed borderline irate with everyone in the room right from the start. I have never seen that strategy employed before at an introductory press conference.

It was almost as if he wanted to fistfight some of the reporters in attendance.

haywood.jpg


Then he went on and on and compared himself to a fictional mass murderer, promised his players would look him in the eye and sit up straight, and finally concluded with an andidote about how he has always like to take catnaps at his locker just before kick off.

freddy3.jpg


It left everyone in attendance, and those watching at home, looking at each other in complete bewilderment.

Awesome!

Perhaps the best part was reading this message board in the immediate aftermath. People were doing whatever they could to try and justify the bizarre behavior we had all just witnessed from our new head football coach.

I remember people vowing to run through a wall for the guy wondering if we had just watched the same press conference?

Then, a few days later, he beat the hell out of his baby mama and it surprised absolutely nobody who had seen that lunatic's surreal press conference performance.

Good times!

I used to re-watch the press conference when I needed a lift. Nowadays, I just resort to this…
Excellent Post and reminder just how bad the second tenure of Pederson was and that was after mistakes he made at Pitt and Nebraska and just got worse and responsible for more misspending of even more Pitt Athletic Money? Only a few poorly vision Fans South of Oakland defended him that now look stupid as him?

It all really started when Pederson lied about what happen with Wannstedt and having no replacement for him, then said, Wannstedt would be a consultant, and Wannstedt quickly correcting him publicly and saying that was a lie, that Nordenberg should have not tolerated either.

It is perhaps Nordenberg worst moment as well, as doing many things great at Pitt, except in backing and keeping Pederson when Pederson should have been fired too. This intolerance of Haywood being fired and approval of Pederson being allowed to stay after lying, just allowed Pederson to keep making more and bigger mistakes.

The Players were upset and stood by Wannstedt, while even a longer New Coaching Search debacle took place. As the Recruiting Classes and High School Coaches relationships dripped and drabber away due to Pederson's lazy hiring of High Paid Consultants that did not check the background of Haywood and again, Nordenberg allowed it to happen with Graham.

Graham was a Panic Pick and then it got just worse after that and one year later, Graham blamed losing on his Players Publicly, and left in the early morning, making sure Pederson was not there. Graham hiring at ASU cost that AD his job and the New ASU AD was fired by Texas just this year as Graham is at 6-6 now too? A fine example that Pederson's Poison Misjudgments not limited just to Pitt, but is like STD Spreading Diseases for selfish reasons!

Once again, Recruiting Relationships and Classes disappeared and took months before Alvarez a Nebraskan Alumnus came in and got Paul Chryst a Head Coaching Job after that many interviews Chryst failed because Pitt couldn't find anyone either? Chryst took his old good time in finding a Coaching Staff as well and did not even have a complete Staff until June?

Support for this kind of mismanagement by Pederson Athletic Department and Nordenberg inaction just went South of Oakland again even as Pitt announced it had been invited to the ACC?

The Penn State Football Scandal was in full bloom with a Pitt Head Coach talking with "Duh, Ahuhs You Knows"... "We Don't Need Any Stinkin Special Teams Coaches Because I Coach Them", that had no clue to take advantage of it, because he had no intention staying at Pitt either. Pitt benefited only because of criminal disclosures and sanctions that happen at Penn State reduced Schoplarships.

Now Alvarez was having troubles holding onto Coaches and and brought back Chryst that was 19-20 at Pitt with losing Games on Special Teams and Defense as he learned to become a Head Coach with Pitt Money again. As Pederson settled with Haywood and some coaches again with Pitt Money while asking for support no Booster wanted to give anymore, let alone Fans?

Nordenberg then decided to give Pederson an 5 Year Extension and Buyout in his last weeks of his tenure again missing Pitt Money and rewarding lying and incompetence.

Finally Gallagher took over and in 4 Months saw enough to dump Pederson and pay the Buyout because that was worth it to create a Fresh Start for Pitt!

The Lair and those that loved Pitt the most rejoiced bigger than ever, but still no one trusted Pitt would get anything right after 19 years of Pederson Poison except a 1 or 2 Fans South of Oakland that used to complain about Pitt failures while praising Pederson joined by his wife posting on the Pitt Boards?

Within weeks NOT MONTHS, an Interim Athletic Director with Former Pitt Players found a Coach that wanted to come to Pit all his life, something Pederson's Paid Consultants could not find and research background for years?

Narduzzi came in and talked like a Pitt Alumnus because he grew up in Youngstown and knew all about the mentality of our region's football traditions and toughness. While pledging not to take MSU Recruits, just focused on having his Staff together in weeks, not months?

After coaching MSU being down by a big score in a big comeback in the Bowl and then witness the Pitt Coaches & Team Quit losing with a big lead,? Coach Pat began his new tenure at Pitt without blinking an eye and with such excitement that even Jim Tressel said, I think Pitt finally found their Coach that will stay a long time at Pitt? As well as, WITHOUT A NEW ATHLETIC DIRECTOR that was not hired for months later?

Reflecting the errors Nordenberg and Nebraska President made in entrusting Steve Pederson and his overpaid Salaries and consultant friends fee mismanagement was easily correctable with better judgement from them and their Buyouts and the Poison he left in both Programs needing to be removed by just overpaid mismanagement, both still have some leftover? Pederson was worse for Pitt than the coaches he hired?

Coach Pat immediately made changes throughout the Program and stayed with his Players in a Dorm to get to know them, and with his Staff just went about coaching up the players he inherited and recruited without doing anything except focusing on coaching up his Players and Recruits.

Alleluia, Pitt Script came back and Pitt Is It Again, with a Coach & Staff not seen since the 1980s?
 
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By far the best part. The same apologists for every single coach or Pitt move were in rare form. And it exploded in their faces in no time.
I think most of them live South of Oakland and only show up now after a Pitt Loss preaching how Fans are still to be blamed, but no one is listening or reading their posts because as usual nothing to add or say?
 
I called into the Fan a few days after this hire and I said it is easier to explain the conception of the Virgin Mary than it is to explain how Haywood was given a HC job at Pitt.
 
I called into the Fan a few days after this hire and I said it is easier to explain the conception of the Virgin Mary than it is to explain how Haywood was given a HC job at Pitt.

I can shed light on exactly how that happened. Back when it appeared that Wanny's days were numbered, the speculators settled on Al Golden (then in the midst of his reconstruction job at Temple) as the frontrunner for the Pitt job. It so happened that Temple and Haywood's Miami squad had a late-season nationally-televised showdown for the MAC East Division title. The telecast began with Haywood's pregame speech to his team (one that would have done Rockne proud), and then in the game, he proceeded to coach the pants off of Golden (exposing what we had begun to realize were some of Alfred's game-day shortcomings). Thus, he rocketed to the top of several lists (not just Pitt's).
 
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Why in the world would that sentiment be considered racist? Because both coaches happen to be black? Strange disclaimer.

Easy gene, just wanted to take race out of the equation. But I guess I didn't need to make it.

Haywood's staff made PC look stellar in comparison. Didn't he have 2 coaches in their 70s? I think recruitment would have taken a nosedive and we are looking for a new coach this year
 
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