CFP Chair Explains Why Penn State Isn't Even Close To Ohio State Right Now, LINK!

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

Excerpts:
This opens the door even wider to the theory Ohio State-Michigan on Saturday is a play-in game and the Buckeyes would make the playoff with one loss even without playing for the Big Ten championship. That would happen if Penn State wins Saturday against Michigan State Spartans , a 3-8 team that barely lost 17-16 to the Buckeyes last week.

Ohio State has one less loss and better wins than Penn State. Well, except for the fact Penn State beat Ohio State head to head. Because if you judge teams by best win, nobody has a better win than the Nittany Lions, who also have a 39-point loss to Michigan Wolverines and a three-point loss to Pittsburgh Panthers .

What's unknown is how the committee would treat a two-loss Penn State that wins the Big Ten compared to a one-loss Ohio State. Hocutt's comments about a not-so-small separation between the Buckeyes and Nittany Lions could suggest that gap would only be maintained or increased if Ohio State adds a win over No. 3 Michigan.

Read between the lines: If there's not a small gap between Ohio State and Penn State, then Wisconsin could face a similar dilemma if it wins the Big Ten championship over Penn State. The Badgers could really use Ohio State or Michigan on the opposite side of the Big Ten Championship Game.

"The committee continues to be very impressed with a Michigan team who's the only team with three wins against CFP top-10 teams," Hocutt said. "They continue to be impressed with Michigan's defense. We discussed the quarterback situation. We're aware of it, but obviously that didn't change our opinions."

On Saturday, after whatever result Ohio State-Michigan spits out, the committee also gets a chance to see Penn State face the same Michigan State team that nearly beat Ohio State. The Buckeyes, who have wins over No. 6 Wisconsin, No. 9 Oklahoma and No. 16 Nebraska, didn't get dinged by the committee for the close win.

"They're an extremely talented football team," Hocutt said. "The committee continues to be impressed with their three wins over CFP top-25 teams. We were obviously aware of the conditions [strong wind] in which that game was played in, but we continue to be impressed with Ohio State."

You know the end is near when weather conditions get used as a qualifier to justify a team's poor weekly performance. This is what you get with weekly rankings: The very strong hint that Ohio State is in the CFP -- if the Buckeyes win their most challenging game of the year in four days.

LINK:
http://www.cbssports.com/college-fo...tate-isnt-even-close-to-ohio-state-right-now/

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

Roundtable: Highest-Ranked Two-Loss Team In Fourth College Football Playoff Rankings.....With the fourth edition of the College Football Playoff Rankings set to be released, the Campus Insiders team discusses who will be and who should be the highest-ranked two-loss team.
Excerpts:
Miller:
Will Be: The Badgers did nothing this past week to cast doubt in the selection committee’s minds, and fellow Big Ten and two-loss member Penn State was blown out by common opponent Michigan earlier this year. Oklahoma and Colorado had CFP Top 25 wins last week, so there’s a chance those teams will put pressure on the Badgers. Even Oklahoma State has momentum. But Wisconsin was efficient on offense and strong on defense last week, so I can’t see the Badgers dropping on Tuesday night............
Should Be: I haven’t wavered from my pick of Wisconsin as the best two-loss team, and nothing has happened that would make me look back now. Their two close losses (Someone Tell TD-6082 Close Wins & Losses Count By Experts Too), are against Ohio State and Michigan, two teams that are fully entrenched in the CFP mix. In addition, Paul Chryst’s team has wins over LSU and Nebraska

Bart:
Will Be: Wisconsin – The committee isn’t going to change this after the Badgers took care of business against Purdue. Their only losses are by seven points apiece to Michigan and Ohio State, (Oops TD-6082 Close Losses Mention More Important Again), two of the committee’s top three teams.....
Should Be: An argument could be made for Oklahoma, especially after the Sooner demolished West Virginia in Morgantown. But, the Mountaineers were overrated in the first place, and one of Oklahoma’s losses came against a Houston team that has lost to Navy and SMU and won’t even win the AAC.

McGraw:
Will Be: Wisconsin – The Badgers were the highest-ranked two-loss team in last week’s College Football Playoff Rankings, and there’s no reason to move them from that position this week......
Should Be: Out of all the two-loss teams right now, I’d probably put my money on Oklahoma as the best, but that doesn’t mean the Sooners should be the highest-ranked.........

Stultz

Will Be: Wisconsin – The Badgers’ two losses, to Ohio State and Michigan, who happen to be the 2nd and 3rd-ranked teams in the country, are definitely understandable. They have the best resume of any team carrying two losses at this point in the season................
Should Be: Oklahoma – The Sooners two hiccups – opener against Houston and against Ohio State – came early in the season, and since then, the Sooners have been rolling................
LINK:
https://campusinsiders.com/news/fou...kings-highest-ranked-two-loss-team-11-22-2016/

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

Penn State can add a win over Wisconsin and a Big Ten Championship the next 2 weeks. That moves them ahead of OSU.

Plus, it may not come down to PSU vs OSU

I believe that Alabama, Clemson, Michigan, and Washington (yes, Washington) control their own destiny. If all those teams win out they are in assuming Florida doesn't win the next 2 and steal a bid.

However, there is a good chance that Clemson or Washington will lose another game. If they do, the B10 could easily get 2 teams in.

 

[DruidTM]

I don't think PSU can beat Wisconsin .... the win over OSU was the "fluke " they like to talk about... not our win over them.

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

I don't think PSU can beat Wisconsin .... the win over OSU was the "fluke " they like to talk about... not our win over them.

Good point, I remember when Chip Kelly created a Great Spread Offense at Oregon but when he came to the NFL, he was Honest enough to say he was not sure if his System could Win the NFL, and then went about proving it in Philadelphia and now at the bottom in San Francisco again???

So far this proves Spreads can win 10+ games but not in the NFL and so far not in NCS either that much, unless someone can correct and educate me! The smaller weaker Programs use it often and so be it!

The Spread seems it can win 10 Games every year, but when it goes up against Pro Set's like OSU, Michigan, Pitt, Wisky, MSU, Bama it is not as an easy Win, and can get by once in while, like PSU did against OSU & Iowa and soon maybe MSU too, but it will be interesting to see how it handles Wisky & NCS Playoff Teams???

I can wait and if Franklin proves everyone wrong, so be it, and congratulations?

We shall see?

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

I don't think PSU can beat Wisconsin .... the win over OSU was the "fluke " they like to talk about... not our win over them.

Wisconsin is better and should win but Big Ten games are low-scoring. It will be like a 20-13 game meaning that in the 4th quarter, PSU will have a very real shot at a CFP bid. Who woulda thought?

 

[PitterPanther]

Why is this even a thread? OSU is a 1 lose team, Penn State is a 2 lose team. Why even read the article or post this thread?

Can we please stop obsessing about other teams and focus on Cuse and getting into a decent bowl this year?

Next year is our year!

Sincerely,
Every Pitt Alumnus

 

[sappycrease]

Why is this even a thread? OSU is a 1 lose team, Penn State is a 2 lose team. Why even read the article or post this thread?

Can we please stop obsessing about other teams and focus on Cuse and getting into a decent bowl this year?

Next year is our year!

Sincerely,
Every Pitt Alumnus

Amen.

PITT isn't even mentioned in this article? Why is it that everyone is so obsessed with d*ck measuring against the Peds? We beat them - move on!

 

[Jpripper88]

Penn State can add a win over Wisconsin and a Big Ten Championship the next 2 weeks. That moves them ahead of OSU.

Plus, it may not come down to PSU vs OSU

I believe that Alabama, Clemson, Michigan, and Washington (yes, Washington) control their own destiny. If all those teams win out they are in assuming Florida doesn't win the next 2 and steal a bid.

However, there is a good chance that Clemson or Washington will lose another game. If they do, the B10 could easily get 2 teams in.

The committee has made it abundantly clear it would not.

 

[topdecktiger]

The committee has made it abundantly clear it would not.

No they haven't. The committee also puts a big premium on conference championships. That doesn't get factored into the rankings until the end of the season.

 

[9nationalchampionships]

Uhh Pitt beating Clemson at Clemson is the best win by any team this season.

 

[Safety Blitz]

Uhh Pitt beating Clemson at Clemson is the best win by any team this season.

You can make the case for John Carroll beating Mount Union as the best win by "any team" this season.

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

Why is this even a thread? OSU is a 1 lose team, Penn State is a 2 lose team. Why even read the article or post this thread?

Can we please stop obsessing about other teams and focus on Cuse and getting into a decent bowl this year?

Next year is our year!

Sincerely,
Every Pitt Alumnus

Yeah, nobody cares it just got 526 views and not about you and what you think should exists, it is about CFB, and ignore it, if you can't discuss it? Don't whine and put up your own thread and can enjoy that too? HTG!

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

You can make the case for John Carroll beating Mount Union as the best win by "any team" this season.

Agree, Where is the demand that a 12-0 Western Michigan should be in the NCS Playoffs?

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

Amen.

PITT isn't even mentioned in this article? Why is it that everyone is so obsessed with d*ck measuring against the Peds? We beat them - move on!

It is sappy crease post, happens every 3 years?

 

[Safety Blitz]

Agree, Where is the demand that a 12-0 Western Michigan should be in the NCS Playoffs?

If/when the tournament expands to 8 teams, I think you can make a case for berth for an unbeaten mid-major.
Could a team like Western Michigan win three straight in an 8-team bracket? Highly unlikely. But as we all saw in the Pitt-Clemson and PSU-OSU games, on any given Saturday the mighty can fall.

 

[PitterPanther]

Yeah, nobody cares it just got 526 views and not about you and what you think should exists, it is about CFB, and ignore it, if you can't discuss it? Don't whine and put up your own thread and can enjoy that too? HTG!

I'm confused with this response. I don't know if your making a good point or if you need to go back to grammar school?

 

[revampedpanthers]

Penn State can add a win over Wisconsin and a Big Ten Championship the next 2 weeks. That moves them ahead of OSU.I don;t think it will. Committee seems to be real high on OSU and if they beat #3 MI, i don't see any way they drop out of the top 4,regardless what happens

Plus, it may not come down to PSU vs OSUIt may not

I believe that Alabama, Clemson, Michigan, and Washington (yes, Washington) control their own destiny. If all those teams win out they are in assuming Florida doesn't win the next 2 and steal a bid.
agree if alabama is in no matter what. clemson and washington are in as one loss conference champs. That means if clemson and washington win out the b10 gets one. Do they pick a 2 loss PSU or OSU? I have been of the opinion that they would take PSU in that scenario, but its looking more and more like they will pick the buckeyes. Now I would almost guarantee they take OSU over wisconsin.
However, there is a good chance that Clemson or Washington will lose another game. If they do, the B10 could easily get 2 teams in.

Agree if one of those two lose then a 2 loss b10 champ will get in.

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

I'm confused with this response. I don't know if your making a good point or if you need to go back to grammar school?

Well, that is even more reason for you to ignore the posts and quit whinng from your Grammar School, just keep sucking you thumb and listen to the adults so you won't be confused while you do it. Take your Blankey and cry in the corner!

Some of the Best Posters responded unlike your whining.There are 10 Thread posts below on Pitt-Cuse that are under 50 Views right now, go post on them with CFB content after you get over your Hissy Fit discontentment!

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

If/when the tournament expands to 8 teams, I think you can make a case for berth for an unbeaten mid-major.
Could a team like Western Michigan win three straight in an 8-team bracket? Highly unlikely. But as we all saw in the Pitt-Clemson and PSU-OSU games, on any given Saturday the mighty can fall.

Agree!

 

[PitterPanther]

Well, that is even more reason for you to ignore the posts and quit whinng from your Grammar School, just keep sucking you thumb and quit whining while you do it. Take your Blankey and cry in the corner!

Some of the Best Posters responded unlike your whining.There are 10 Thread posts below on Pitt-Cuse that are under 50 Views right now, go post on them after you get over your Hissy Fits!

Dear Lord son! Did you eat paint chips as a child? I was confused about the structure/grammar of your comment. It needed at little proof reading, that's all. Calm down and breath, no need for the hissy fit. And yes I feel we bitch to much, on this board, about other teams. We beat Penn State, lets move on and not post click bait.

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

Dear Lord son! Did you eat paint chips as a child? I was confused about the structure/grammar of your comment. It needed at little proof reading, that's all. Calm down and breath, no need for the hissy fit. And yes I feel we bitch to much, on this board, about other teams. We beat Penn State, lets move on and not post click bait.

What was your point on CFB again....on that is right you could not make one, so just push the ignore button and you calm down and come back in a a year or two when you think of one, LOL!

 

[PitterPanther]

What was your point on CFB again....on that is right you could not make one, so just push the ignore button and you calm down and come back in a a year or two when you think of one, LOL!

Son my point is, why was this article posted on the Pitt board? It's about Penn State and some other teams, we beat PSU, who cares what a blogger said about them and some other teams. I see week over week use obsessing about Penn State. 42-39 is all that matters this year. If they get into the CFP, so be it, we still have our win. Same goes for Clemson too.

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

"PitterPanther, post: 1678343, member: 44977"]Son my point is, why was this article posted on the Pitt board?
Correction Boo Hoo Boy, you made no point? You just whined and wasted your time! I don't explain why a New Posters like you get upset why you can't contribute content on CFB when you complain about nothing, I just Expose Those Posts On You and that is your Brain Pain when you Complain like a Child, being upset you can't refute it!

It's about Penn State and some other teams, we beat PSU, who cares what a blogger said about them and some other teams.
The Thraed got 600+ Views and Counting, far more than your own 25+ posts on the Lair, and you are not the Post Thought Police here? So, you complain as a "Blogger" that won't talk about a CFB Blogger's Comments pretending you don't care about PSU but have many posts on PSU?

I see week over week use obsessing about Penn State.
Oh really, you did it too since you joined the Lair, if they upset you, then Ignore them? I guess PSU Fans don't obsess on BWI Boards they post every day.

42-39 is all that matters this year. If they get into the CFP, so be it, we still have our win. Same goes for Clemson too.
Now Explain why in just 25 Posts your own Hypocrisy of Posting about Penn State below:
From "PityPattys" Archives:
PP's Quote Thread Subject:
PitterPanther Prep
Joined: Nov 6, 2016
Messages: 27
O.T. -- Sad story about Mike McQueary...(link)
"One of the articles I've read, I have more saved somewhere. I want to believe him but I'm guilty of having an open mind and that my wife graduated from PSU doesn't help haha."

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2012/05...state-prosecutors-change-key-allegation-date/

20 PitterPanther, Nov 8, 2016
^^ This was one of several posts on Penn State you posted after just 30 Posts, but now all of sudden you complain about them? ^^

Hmmmmnnn......"PityPatty" is this one of your old post on you posting about Penn State with one of those Marvelous 30 some Posts you made so far this year??? There are more in your archives as well?

Now tell all on the Lair again, how and why you get upset about Posts on the Lair about Penn State, is that your Hypocrisy in any language or just a "Hissy Fit' that you got Spanked to correct your mistakes to calm you down?

Stick to posting Football not being an "AfterFart Thought Policeman" and if you can't ignore Penn State Posts that you have put up on your own why complain now?

You got caught, spanked, and quit crying, now man up, Go and Sin no more with all those PSU articles you claim you saved with just 25 posts seen in your Archives?

God Bless Your PSU wife, Penn State has many Great Graduates that share what they learn on the Lair too, and I am always amaze of the generosity of some women!
Have A Happy Thanksgiving!

PPS: Pitt Post SCRIPT:
I apologize, I had no idea you were married, the non-substantive content of your posts made me think you were a child, we will now expect better content on CFB from you on the Lair!

 

[wbrpanther]

Penn State can add a win over Wisconsin and a Big Ten Championship the next 2 weeks. That moves them ahead of OSU.

Plus, it may not come down to PSU vs OSU

I believe that Alabama, Clemson, Michigan, and Washington (yes, Washington) control their own destiny. If all those teams win out they are in assuming Florida doesn't win the next 2 and steal a bid.

However, there is a good chance that Clemson or Washington will lose another game. If they do, the B10 could easily get 2 teams in.

If the Buckeyes win they are in.....period. The winner of Wisky-UPS could get in but may not.

I am going on record right now to say the Nits get upset by the Spartans this week anyway.

 

[PitterPanther]

Yes my wife is a PSU alumnus and that thread was about Jerry Sandusky not Penn State Football. That thread was posting something news related. Myself along with others in my firm believe Sandusky had an unfair trial. Whats your point? I can have an opinion on a matter that isn't bias I hope.

P.S. You have way too much free time. Go out and see the sun light once in awhile.

 

[Ski11585]

Every day is an adventure figuring out who the worst poster on the lair is. The OP gives Steel Curtain a run for his money.

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

"PitterPanther, post: 1678364, member: 44977"]Yes my wife is a PSU alumnus and that thread was about Jerry Sandusky not Penn State Football.
Good thank you for finally your Admission on that matter! You do know Sandusky played, coached, ordain a Professor Emeritus and retired from PSU Football?

That thread was posting something news related.
So, are mine posted on the Lair and all the time. It was you attacking them, and later hid you post them them too after I expose your own hypocrisy?

Myself along with others in my firm believe Sandusky had an unfair trial.
I agree with that too, and the Judge just recused himself from the Sandusky Appeal. Sandusky has a very good Lawyer now from Butler and a Former Prosecutor that put on a Very Good Appeal. I have no problem if he is given a New Trial, after all he was convicted by a PSU Alumni Majority Jury and his prior Lawyer was PSU Grad too?

I think GS is still guilty, but he has Constitutional Rights like all of us! Including the Free Speech Right to Post what we want on a CFB Blog Board without being attacked by myopic hypocrites like you displayed and required a spanking.

Whats your point?
You made my point by contradicting yourself, and it exposed only you, no one else, so man up, and admit your mistakes, if you still can't ignore what you pretended to know about, and chose to personally attack, because you could not professionally respond, and that is on you too for all the Lair to see!

I can have an opinion on a matter that isn't bias I hope.
I Concur again, but your attempt to deny and trying to silencing others were violating what you now claim is just an opinion? An apology is in order, this is what men do, when proven wrong and attacking someone that educated them in both substance and manners. This isn't bias or hypocrisy and not a hope, just what you did!

P.S. You have way too much free time. Go out and see the sun light once in awhile.
P.P.S.- Once again, you cannot respond professionally so you attack like child personally, and learn to grow up if you think you can discuss CFB content with Grown Ups?

Again, as a reminder of what you could not display here as you complained here!

Only You made other comments on Penn State and again lack the Character to be Honest about your own time to save articles on PSU? Nothing you said above refuted what was shown to be your own Hypocrisy and why did you keep Articles about Penn State if you don't care about Penn State on the Lair?

Don't blame me you were caught in your own Nittany Lies, complaining about Penn State Posts on a Pitt Board about CFB and then found posting your own???

By the way, Gerry Sandsuky was also a Penn State Alumnus and his Crimes exposed Penn State University Football Program Lack of Athletic Integrity paying the Highest Fine$ in U$ Educational History, during the Paterno Era, why should that upset you as a Pitt Fan?

Also, just like your feeble attempt to tell the Lair what to Post, you should use your Free time to Learn more on CFB content before making the mistake to complain about over 600 posters that viewed the thread!

Again, man up and you caught yourself with own insults and you know it! Blame only yourself!

Maybe that sunlight you claim others need, have burned out your own head, wear a Nittany Cap they go for $1.75 now!

We are Fair on the Lair and you are welcomed to join us, but understand we share to learn, not flame personal hate that some Paterno Fans learned unfortunately at Penn State.

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

Every day is an adventure figuring out who the worst poster on the lair is. The OP gives Steel Curtain a run for his money.

Not really, Posters that post CFB & CFB Related subjects on Rivals CFB Blogger Board has plenty of CFB Posters that take on, discuss, refute, and agree to disagree with Steel Curtain a Pitt Fan that has Passion and Zeal. I agree to disagree with due respect.

What is funny is how some Penn State Fan Posters always coming over with just a few Posts on Rivals trying to pose as Pitt Fans, and lecture what Lair Poster's should Post after BWI Bans anyone that dare Post the Truth on Penn State subjects? Pnnyliar does it every day and has been doing it since he came on Rivals, but the Michigan Boys caught him.

The Lair is a place to Share and Learn and all CFB Fans are welcomed here that Post on CFB!