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I read that Indiana has success points for teams that do well in tournaments. Apparently they can move up a classification system if they earn so many points. It's an interesting concept and maybe something that would improve competitive balance in certain sports.
I would be in favor of something to allow games to be played more locally, but that would result in maybe only 3 classifications.
I would be in favor of something to allow games to be played more locally, but that would result in maybe only 3 classifications.
Interesting.
I'd like to see maybe four levels. Three for public schools based on enrollment (basically small, medium, large) and another for private schools and charters that can pick beyond geography. Six classifications that mix public and private is silly.
I'd like to see maybe four levels. Three for public schools based on enrollment (basically small, medium, large) and another for private schools and charters that can pick beyond geography. Six classifications that mix public and private is silly.
In a state like PA that almost certainly wouldn't work. There are way too many school districts of way to varying sizes. If you split the schools into three equal divisions in football you would have a school with 1813 boys (Reading) playing in the same class with a school that is in the high 300s (Albert Gallatin at 386). In basketball it would be even worse, with Reading being in the same class as Greensburg (328) and West Mifflin (327). Disparities like that are the whole reason why most of the state was in favor of increasing the number of classes, not reducing them.
This is good information and logical but this happens today!
In our area we have Bethlehem Catholic who has been a top wrestling & football HS program in PA with an enrollment of 750 students. Bethlehem Catholic competes in the top group of HS's in Eastern PA, the Lehigh Valley Conf in football and District XI in wrestling. Bethlehem Cath has won PA State Wrestling championships in 4AA large schools and finished strong in football so enrollment can be deceiving.
Bethlehem Catholic conference includes HS's like Parkland PA that has 3,200 students, Liberty HS with 2,800 students, Easton with 2,800 students, Freedom HS with 1,800, and a few others with large enrollment.
Nazareth HS is another with only 1,200 students in the same conference that has won numerous state wrestling titles competing in the 4AAA group in PA sports.
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Not really. You'd format the numbers to adjust. You don't need to have the biggest school in 6A play in the same division as the smallest in 5A.
Well first of all, there are only two classes in wrestling, AAA and AA. Secondly, wrestling is an individual sport so it's completely difference than a team sport like football. Thirdly, comparing what a catholic school (or any other private school) does in high school sports to what goes on at public schools is truly comparing apples and oranges. There are reasons that the movement is growing to put those schools all in their own class and keep them away from the public schools that can't bring in kids from where ever the want.
But how are you going to do that and make it fair? The difference in enrollment between the biggest school in the PIAA and the 20th biggest school is greater than the difference between the 20th biggest school and the empty lot down the road from your house. So is the biggest class only going to have the top 10 or 20 biggest schools in it? And if so you still have the same problem, you've just shifted the numbers down a little.
Enrollment differences in basketball aren't that huge a deal. You can only roll five guys out at a time anyway. Three or four classifications are plenty. Schools with 400 boys and 1000 can compete, it's not football. The bigger issue to me is removing the private schools that recruit.
