College football recruiting: NCAA moving closer to expanding 25-man class limit, per report
College football coaches are feeling roster crunches like never before
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College football recruiting: NCAA moving closer to expanding 25-man class limit, per report
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Hopefully they expand scholarship limits to 100 so more kids will never play at Bama and Ohio State and can be used as tackling dummies instead of being 3 year starters at Pitt or WVUCollege football recruiting: NCAA moving closer to expanding 25-man class limit, per report
College football coaches are feeling roster crunches like never before
They have 85 scholarships. They are having "roster management problems"? Come on, that's just silly.
This is perfect scenario as the value and reason for a ACC/B1G/PAC12 alliance. The SEC will take 40 players a year if they were allowed.
I’m more for going the other direction. Reduce scholarships to help evening the playing field…
If the "alliance" would vote to limit scholarship to 70-75, that would be amazing.
Having roster management problems with 85 players and entire FCS team as walk-ons ain't actual roster management problems. Its "we dont want to have the kid who passed up full rides from FCS powers to walk-on here in the 2 deep" due to injuries. They want another 4-5 star kid as well.
This is a joke. If you cant put out a competitive team with 25 man classes and 85 scholarships, you probably aren't qualified to run a McDonald's.
I mean does anyone realize how ridiculous this. 25 players in a class is already too many. Up to half will never play significantly. Now they can transfer without penalty. So teams want to bring in MORE players initially because they now know the kids can leave freely. How bout this. Cut the roster sizes and kids wont transfer as much. It takes 40-50 kids to play a football game. You dont need 35-45 scholarship kids sitting on the sidelines every game
college coaches are feeling crunches like never before? how? is this a joke. 50% of the scholarship players now are either redshirting or dont play with little if any hopes of ever playing. they need more?
they are going to combat the transfers by adding more scholarships which will in turn, cause more transfers..
what a joke. SMF is right (cant believe i said that), the blue bloods need a better scout team to practice against.
they are going to combat the transfers by adding more scholarships which will in turn, cause more transfers..
what a joke. SMF is right (cant believe i said that), the blue bloods need a better scout team to practice against.
Yep. When we are all in agreement......you know it is bad. All this means, is Ohio State, Alabama, Georgia, etc...they can just hoard players without even intending to play them, just for 2 reasons, 1) extreme depth 2) other teams can't have them.
I am hating college football and am starting to root for it to fail.
I am hating college football and am starting to root for it to fail.
well kinda but no not really, too busy jumping to conclusions..
I did re-read it, you may have a point. it sounds like the intent is, when a blue blood raids your roster, the ncaa wants to give you another scholarship (does that sound right).
Thank you. You lose a transfer, you get an extra spot in the class. Why is that so evil? For a school like Pitt, that's kind of a big deal. When Liam Dick transferred, it would have been nice to be able to bring in an extra OL-man in this class while not sacrificing another position.
well i get it but things like this seem to always favor the bamas, osus. i dont think the blue bloods raid the smaller programs as much as everyone predicted.
osu isnt getting our Klancey's and Addisons like we all feared. They get Georgia's 5 star backup Qb sure but then they'll lose their 4-5 star backup qb to lsu. they arent coming for the middle of the road star players, they'd rather get a 4-5 star high school WR than poach a sophomore from pitt.
These programs dont need our good players when they can get the best high school kids.. osu and alabama has zero interest in coming after a pitt or wvu or nc state player 99.9% of the time. They win NCs without our good players.
John Majors recruited a Freshman class of 70+ to Pitt in 1973, including Tony Dorsett. Largely why the NCAA instituted scholarship limits, so the story goes.
Transfers have generally had zero effect on the blue bloods of college football with the exception of a few notable examples. Mostly, kids drop down to FCS or lower.
i agree. the fear of schools like us being farm teams for the blue bloods werent even close.. if anything, middle of the road P5 schools have benefitted from it, i know we have.
Cant say for sure if G5 lower level D1 programs benefitted from it though. probably a break even thing were a good upper classmen leaves their last year to see what P5 football is like but get a few underclassmen from P5 schools that were recruited over..
That number of 70+ wasn't all freshmen. It included a fair sprinkling of junior college transfers.
I think the benefits have been limited to the lower P5 overall. It's giving kids another chance and that's a good thing.
Schools are already "over recruiting" so this isn't going to be earth shattering either.
Majors has said he brought in about half a dozen JUCO players and handed out about 70 other scholarships. Regardless, today it seems outlandish...
yeah but they all poach from each other. like musical chairs from the blue bloods. osu loses burrows but gets fields for a net zero gain/loss..
didnt auburn get an lsu transfer? they just all kind of go back and forth among the top 12 programs.
i've heard that number all over the map. from 50 to 120. i don't even know how 80 would work. where the heck did 60 of them go after freshman camp?
it's a shame since the college game is so much better than the NFL but I agree it is getting harder & harder to stomach. I thought the playoffs were going to be a great idea but it made the divide even worse with the same teams literally showing up since inception. Expanding to 12 will be worse since under the current plan it is based on "selection" rather than a guaranteed conference champ so be prepared for 6 SEC teams being "invited"
Still pretty terrible. Alabama and OSU lose 10 kids each that transfer down, well now they can backfill with more 4-5 star HS players, half of whom will never play and transfer.
Good. This has been the biggest change needed in college football.
You can’t give players more freedom, and then artificially limit the demand for them like the NCAA has been doing.
It’s also not fair to teams. A hard 25 means you’re always behind the 8-ball when players transfer, because there’s no way to credit an initial counter spot for that transfer.
You can’t give players more freedom, and then artificially limit the demand for them like the NCAA has been doing.
It’s also not fair to teams. A hard 25 means you’re always behind the 8-ball when players transfer, because there’s no way to credit an initial counter spot for that transfer.
They have. Look at say Middle Tennessee State’s projected 2-deep. They got the big time QB recruit that started for NC State last year when their starter went down. The big time RB from FSU with the Persian sounding name. And then a big time WR from UGA.
Although those kids get to start right away and keep living their dream of playing football. And MTS gets a big time talent upgrade that they never could have gotten out of high school. But it’s horrible and needs to be stopped apparently.
I don’t know if they poach from each other per se.
I think it is true that kids ideally want to stay within the geographic area they are comfortable with if given a choice. Much like they do out of high school.
That’s why FSU is able to get Milton from UCF (Fl to Fl), UF is able to get Bowman from Clemson (Lakeland kid going back home to Lakeland country), and Miami Stevenson from UGA (Miami kid going back home).
But it helps lower schools located in those geographic areas as well. SMU will have its second straight 4* recruit starting at QB this year after both transferred from big time schools. Both were Texas boys.
It’s just more difficult to clean up in the transfer portal if you’re a school not located in a talent region of the country, because you don’t get the benefit of kids wanting to stay close to home when they transfer.
That's it. They can call it the Dick'd compensation rule. If your team gets Dick'd by a last minute transfer, you get an extra scholarship.
