Power 5, A-10, or Mtn West team to be playing in the CBI/CIT tourney. What if Pitt's record would not have been good enough for the NIT, would we have accepted a bid? Seems Oregon St, UPS/Minn/NW and someone else from the B1G declined CBI bids.
Colorado is the only............
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Agree. Colorado should be ashamed................
Going to any post season tournament with a losing record is absurd.
The P5 schools by and large want nothing to do with it.
Going to any post season tournament with a losing record is absurd.
The P5 schools by and large want nothing to do with it.
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Playing in the CBI 3 years ago did absolutely nothing to hurt Pitt's program. In fact it helped some of the younger players like Patterson get some extra work in. The only people on the planet who at this moment even remember that Pitt was in it are those who didn't think they should have been.
Playing in the CBI 3 years ago did absolutely nothing to hurt Pitt's program. In fact it helped some of the younger players like Patterson get some extra work in. The only people on the planet who at this moment even remember that Pitt was in it are those who didn't think they should have been.
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And apparently those of you that celebrate it
Obviously the "benefit" was pretty limited as the team did nothing in the Dance the following year and missed it this year. Define hurt? Hurt was really never part of the discussion, other than reputation and financial. Good to see the bulk of the P5 schools passed. Frankly, the NCAA should not sanction any tournaments other than the Dance and NIT. Either way, I hope it withers and dies on the vine and that Pitt is never in a position to elect whether to play in it or not. Hail to Pitt!
And apparently those of you that celebrate it
Obviously the "benefit" was pretty limited as the team did nothing in the Dance the following year and missed it this year. Define hurt? Hurt was really never part of the discussion, other than reputation and financial. Good to see the bulk of the P5 schools passed. Frankly, the NCAA should not sanction any tournaments other than the Dance and NIT. Either way, I hope it withers and dies on the vine and that Pitt is never in a position to elect whether to play in it or not. Hail to Pitt!
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I think some of the recent changes make the NIT a pretty decent event. They should continue and make the "next four out" the #2 seeds. With the exception of that awful Alabama invite, it isn't structured to accept too many marginal power teams anymore.
Based on the NIT lawsuit, I'm not sure how this would ever happen. The CBI seems to be on its way to a natural demise, and the CIT seems like a great way to end the season for a lot of mid- and low-majors.
I think some of the recent changes make the NIT a pretty decent event. They should continue and make the "next four out" the #2 seeds. With the exception of that awful Alabama invite, it isn't structured to accept too many marginal power teams anymore.
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I'm not advocating for the CBI or that it benefitted Pitt - but Pitt made 2 straight NCAAs after the CBI year (not one).
I'd add Pitts CBI semi final opponent - Butler- seems to have done just fine post CBI.
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I'm not advocating for the CBI or that it benefitted Pitt - but Pitt made 2 straight NCAAs after the CBI year (not one).
I'd add Pitts CBI semi final opponent - Butler- seems to have done just fine post CBI.
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If coaches deem it warranted to keep playing, then teams should play in whatever is available. That's all that matters. Most competitors want to compete.
BTW, two weeks ago Pat Chambers said of the CBI, "If it was given to us, we'd take it, but I'm not sure it's going to be given to us." I'm not sure what changed in two weeks. Based on how PSU has supported their program in the past, maybe they had a Disney on Ice show booked at the BJC.
There have been plenty of power conference and high mid-major participants besides Pitt: Texas, Texas A&M, Cincinnati, Virginia, Utah, Stanford, Washington State, Oregon, Oregon State, St. John's, Creighton, Butler, PSU, TCU, Wichita St, VCU, Richmond, Valpo, Houston, Boise St.
For Pitt, being able play a game in Hinkle and exact some revenge was worth it alone.
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If coaches deem it warranted to keep playing, then teams should play in whatever is available. That's all that matters. Most competitors want to compete.
BTW, two weeks ago Pat Chambers said of the CBI, "If it was given to us, we'd take it, but I'm not sure it's going to be given to us." I'm not sure what changed in two weeks. Based on how PSU has supported their program in the past, maybe they had a Disney on Ice show booked at the BJC.
There have been plenty of power conference and high mid-major participants besides Pitt: Texas, Texas A&M, Cincinnati, Virginia, Utah, Stanford, Washington State, Oregon, Oregon State, St. John's, Creighton, Butler, PSU, TCU, Wichita St, VCU, Richmond, Valpo, Houston, Boise St.
For Pitt, being able play a game in Hinkle and exact some revenge was worth it alone.
This post was edited on 3/16 7:17 PM by CrazyPaco
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Agree.
The ideal should be the Top 16 to the NCAA. The lower ranked teams, and especially rinky dinks, should have no place in such an elite tournament. I like RMU and all, but really. It really cheapens this tournament to have programs like that, or frankly, mournfully average squads like this year's Pitt team (if we had gone 21-12, say).
The NCAA should be for the national championship, meaning truly championship worthy teams. What is today is a TV mini-series that hopes and prays for upsets to hype.
The next 32 teams after, or even as many as 64 if profitable, can play the NIT. Kind of equates to the lower-tier football bowls. Nice reward for the kids of teams that had decent seasons.
This way, the NIT would be a much much more solid, interesting tournament, and the NCAA would actually mean something.
Agree.
The ideal should be the Top 16 to the NCAA. The lower ranked teams, and especially rinky dinks, should have no place in such an elite tournament. I like RMU and all, but really. It really cheapens this tournament to have programs like that, or frankly, mournfully average squads like this year's Pitt team (if we had gone 21-12, say).
The NCAA should be for the national championship, meaning truly championship worthy teams. What is today is a TV mini-series that hopes and prays for upsets to hype.
The next 32 teams after, or even as many as 64 if profitable, can play the NIT. Kind of equates to the lower-tier football bowls. Nice reward for the kids of teams that had decent seasons.
This way, the NIT would be a much much more solid, interesting tournament, and the NCAA would actually mean something.
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Most ridiculous post of the year!
Colorado has nothing to be ashamed of!! They didn't go to the CBI for the "glory", they went to play competitive basketball and make their program better!! (The same reason anyone goes!)
I applude them for playing! Nobody is going to get better by staying home and watching!
Most ridiculous post of the year!
Colorado has nothing to be ashamed of!! They didn't go to the CBI for the "glory", they went to play competitive basketball and make their program better!! (The same reason anyone goes!)
I applude them for playing! Nobody is going to get better by staying home and watching!
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This is why Minn, PSU, NW, and whoever else will continue to suck...
They would rather go home then actually go out and play competitive basketball!
I don't care if it's called NIT, or CBI... If you have a chance to play competitive basketball and make your team / program better, you take it.
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This is why Minn, PSU, NW, and whoever else will continue to suck...
They would rather go home then actually go out and play competitive basketball!
I don't care if it's called NIT, or CBI... If you have a chance to play competitive basketball and make your team / program better, you take it.
This post was edited on 3/17 1:25 PM by daminals76
