Covid wasnt real?

[Sean Miller Fan]

As we mark the 5 Year Anniversary of basically when shutdowns began (sports getting canceled), I wanted to put this graph out because if you remember back then, many of you were saying Covid wasn't killing anyone. It was just the flu and people were dying at normal rates but there was a conspiracy to put Covid on the death certificates for hospital reimbursements. Back then, you said the only way to tell if it was a real thing would be based on death rates because you can write whatever you want on a death certificate but you cannot lie about whether or not someone actually dies. Well, here they are:

Total number of fatalities U.S. 2023 | Statista

In 2023, about 3.09 million deaths were reported in the United States.

www.statista.com

Historical jump in deaths from 2019 to 2021. Another big jump in 2021. A drop in 2022 but still probably slightly higher than a non-Covid 2019/20/21/22 normal trend. Drop in 2023 so we are back on what would have been a normal, slightly gradual rise from 2019 to 20 to 21 to 22 to 23 if there was never Covid.

But I swear that most of you will either believe these death numbers are wrong or say Covid still didn't cause any deaths and this jump in deaths was caused by something else. Or, or, just hear me out. Covid actually did kill a ton of people (yes, mostly old people) in 20 and 21. You can criticize the shutdowns all you want, that's a whole different debate. I am simply saying Covid was real and killed a lot of people. Would anyone admit that?

 

[pittbb80]

Global Study: Most 'Covid Deaths' Were Caused by 'Vaccines,' Lockdowns, Hospitals - Slay News

A major global study has concluded that most deaths recorded during and after the Covid pandemic were caused by mRNA "vaccines," hospital protocols, and lockdowns and not by the virus itself.

slaynews.com

CDC Caught Faking Data for 'Covid Deaths' - Slay News

A bombshell new report has revealed that the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) is publishing fabricated data on "Covid deaths" to massively exaggerate the alleged issue.

slaynews.com

The inference from the lengthy paper is the opposite of what many would have thought: the greater the mitigation efforts in US nursing homes, the higher the death toll during the pandemic. Those efforts not only largely failed to reduce Covid mortality, but they also added non-Covid deaths. The more they tried to mitigate, the worse the outcome was.

The Nursing Home Paradox ⋆ Brownstone Institute

The inference from the lengthy paper is the opposite of what many would have thought: the greater the mitigation efforts in US nursing homes, the higher the death toll during the pandemic.

brownstone.org

he U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) has just quietly published new data that reveals a staggering 99% of reported “Covid deaths” were not actually caused by the virus.

Recent data from the CDC reveals a troubling statistic showing that most recorded fatalities that were blanket-blamed on Covid were actually caused by something else.

According to the CDC’s Covid dashboard, just 1.7% of the 324 “Covid deaths” registered in the week ending August 19 had the coronavirus as the primary cause of death.

Alarmingly, the vast majority of people who were labeled as so-called “Covid deaths” actually died of other causes such as cancer and heart disease.

CDC Faked 99% of Reported 'Covid Deaths,' Data Shows - Slay News

The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) has just quietly published new data that reveals a staggering 99% of reported "Covid deaths" were not actually caused by the virus.

slaynews.com

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

Global Study: Most 'Covid Deaths' Were Caused by 'Vaccines,' Lockdowns, Hospitals - Slay News

A major global study has concluded that most deaths recorded during and after the Covid pandemic were caused by mRNA "vaccines," hospital protocols, and lockdowns and not by the virus itself.

slaynews.com

CDC Caught Faking Data for 'Covid Deaths' - Slay News

A bombshell new report has revealed that the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) is publishing fabricated data on "Covid deaths" to massively exaggerate the alleged issue.

slaynews.com

The inference from the lengthy paper is the opposite of what many would have thought: the greater the mitigation efforts in US nursing homes, the higher the death toll during the pandemic. Those efforts not only largely failed to reduce Covid mortality, but they also added non-Covid deaths. The more they tried to mitigate, the worse the outcome was.

The Nursing Home Paradox ⋆ Brownstone Institute

The inference from the lengthy paper is the opposite of what many would have thought: the greater the mitigation efforts in US nursing homes, the higher the death toll during the pandemic.

brownstone.org

View embedded media

he U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) has just quietly published new data that reveals a staggering 99% of reported “Covid deaths” were not actually caused by the virus.

Recent data from the CDC reveals a troubling statistic showing that most recorded fatalities that were blanket-blamed on Covid were actually caused by something else.

According to the CDC’s Covid dashboard, just 1.7% of the 324 “Covid deaths” registered in the week ending August 19 had the coronavirus as the primary cause of death.

Alarmingly, the vast majority of people who were labeled as so-called “Covid deaths” actually died of other causes such as cancer and heart disease.

CDC Faked 99% of Reported 'Covid Deaths,' Data Shows - Slay News

The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) has just quietly published new data that reveals a staggering 99% of reported "Covid deaths" were not actually caused by the virus.

slaynews.com

Lol. I knew you'd have a conspiracy theory. I have you on ignore (the only person I've ever put on Ignore) but I took you off for this one. But you'll be back on when its done.

So to recap, you believe Covid was real but just a very minor virus and it was the hospitals who killed the patients by using flawed government treatment protocols? Would you listen to yourself.

Buddy, Covid was very deadly in 2020 and 2021. That doesn't mean you can't make a good argument against shutdowns. We can debate that feverishly but you'd have some legitimate arguments to make. But this here is no debate. Covid was real and it, not hospitals, killed a shit-ton of Americans.

 

[pittbb80]

Lol. I knew you'd have a conspiracy theory. I have you on ignore (the only person I've ever put on Ignore) but I took you off for this one. But you'll be back on when its done.

So to recap, you believe Covid was real but just a very minor virus and it was the hospitals who killed the patients by using flawed government treatment protocols? Would you listen to yourself.

Buddy, Covid was very deadly in 2020 and 2021. That doesn't mean you can't make a good argument against shutdowns. We can debate that feverishly but you'd have some legitimate arguments to make. But this here is no debate. Covid was real and it, not hospitals, killed a shit-ton of Americans.

I provided actual data. You provided your opinion. I know you libs hate data but it doesn’t make it any less true.

The fact is most of the Covid deaths could have been prevented.

But in the end it doesn’t matter to me. I’m a pure blood. I don’t have to worry about the long term consequences of Covid. How many booster shots did you take

And you snowflakes block people who destroy your narrative. You truly are a clown

 

[pittbb80]

Lol. I knew you'd have a conspiracy theory. I have you on ignore (the only person I've ever put on Ignore) but I took you off for this one. But you'll be back on when its done.

So to recap, you believe Covid was real but just a very minor virus and it was the hospitals who killed the patients by using flawed government treatment protocols? Would you listen to yourself.

Buddy, Covid was very deadly in 2020 and 2021. That doesn't mean you can't make a good argument against shutdowns. We can debate that feverishly but you'd have some legitimate arguments to make. But this here is no debate. Covid was real and it, not hospitals, killed a shit-ton of Americans.

By the way whah happened to the flu during Covid ? Can you explain how it dissapeared and then suddenly reappeared?

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

I provided actual data.

Huh? You provided tweets and an article from something called slaynews.com. That's not data.

But we don't need to debate this any further. I have your answer: Covid was very minor but the hospital staff killed everyone by using incorrect protocols. So, we're good. Thanks.

 

[pittbb80]

Huh? You provided tweets and an article from something called slaynews.com. That's not data.

But we don't need to debate this any further. I have your answer: Covid was very minor but the hospital staff killed everyone by using incorrect protocols. So, we're good. Thanks.

They included studies you’d have to read rather than being spoon fed what to think by corporate media including faux news. It would require independent thinking

I’m sure you also thought masked worked, isolating healthy people was a good thing. And the 6 foot rule saved lives as well. In other words you are a govement/big pharma stooge

 

[pittbb80]

By the way whah happened to the flu during Covid ? Can you explain how it dissapeared and then suddenly reappeared?

So I see you can’t answer this one simple question Typical lib. Ignore the questions that create cognitive dissonance

 

[pittbb80]

Scarf lady should be in jail

 

[HailtoPitt]

So that I understand... people got COVID, it got bad enough for them to need a hospital, and the hospital killed them?

 

[pittbb80]

So that I understand... people got COVID, it got bad enough for them to need a hospital, and the hospital killed them?

That’s what the data said. Their protocols were awful.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

So I see you can’t answer this one simple question Typical lib. Ignore the questions that create cognitive dissonance

I dont feel like putting the flu thing in this thread. If you want to debate that, start a new thread and I'll answer

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

They included studies you’d have to read rather than being spoon fed what to think by corporate media including faux news. It would require independent thinking

I’m sure you also thought masked worked, isolating healthy people was a good thing. And the 6 foot rule saved lives as well. In other words you are a govement/big pharma stooge

It was the hospitals massacring all these poor folks? I literally laughed out loud when I typed that. I feel bad for you. You are so far gone. I was hoping someone other than you would answer but I am guessing they now believe that Covid actually did kill a bunch of people.

I didn't read more than the synopsis of the study but read some articles about it and the author.

Takeaways

- the author is crazy, not just because of this but he has a long history of anti-establishment behavior and a vehement Covid denier and vaccine denier. This isnt some normal scientist doing a study. This is a crackpot thinking he knows an answer and doing some "scientific" study to prove it.

- the study was self-published and not peer reviewed. Inotherwords, he could have made everything up. I can self-publish a study showing we are all actually Tigers. You realize that, right? I realize your counter to this will be that no one would peer review it or publish it because they are all in on the conspiracy. This is always the answer. Everything was a conspiracy.

- he does admit there was a growth in the death rates that could not be explained during normal times so at least we have that. Apparently, he does believe the deaths happened and we weren't over-reporting deaths but this is how he explains it:

1. Stress due to lockdowns
2. Ventilators and other hospital protocols
3. The vaccine killed a bunch of people

So, the cause of death was ANYTHING but Covid. It would appear that he believes more people died from lockdown stress than actual Covid.

Buddy, seek help. Not even the craziest folks on here agree with you.

 

[pittbb80]

I dont feel like putting the flu thing in this thread. If you want to debate that, start a new thread and I'll answer

So you have no clue what the flue totally disappeared during the Scamdemic and then reappeared. Gotch

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

So you have no clue what the flue totally disappeared during the Scamdemic and then reappeared. Gotch

No. I said start a new thread. I'm not debating the flu in this thread.

 

[pittbb80]

It was the hospitals massacring all these poor folks? I literally laughed out loud when I typed that. I feel bad for you. You are so far gone. I was hoping someone other than you would answer but I am guessing they now believe that Covid actually did kill a bunch of people.

I didn't read more than the synopsis of the study but read some articles about it and the author.

Takeaways

- the author is crazy, not just because of this but he has a long history of anti-establishment behavior and a vehement Covid denier and vaccine denier. This isnt some normal scientist doing a study. This is a crackpot thinking he knows an answer and doing some "scientific" study to prove it.

- the study was self-published and not peer reviewed. Inotherwords, he could have made everything up. I can self-publish a study showing we are all actually Tigers. You realize that, right? I realize your counter to this will be that no one would peer review it or publish it because they are all in on the conspiracy. This is always the answer. Everything was a conspiracy.

- he does admit there was a growth in the death rates that could not be explained during normal times so at least we have that. Apparently, he does believe the deaths happened and we weren't over-reporting deaths but this is how he explains it:

1. Stress due to lockdowns
2. Ventilators and other hospital protocols
3. The vaccine killed a bunch of people

So, the cause of death was ANYTHING but Covid. It would appear that he believes more people died from lockdown stress than actual Covid.

Buddy, seek help. Not even the craziest folks on here agree with you.

So you have nothing. Big Pharma loves stooges like you

Like I said I don’t give a shit. The jab was really natural selection at work. Retards like you not only took the first one but got boosted as well. I don’t have it ever worry about turbo cancer prion disease heart failure or any off the side affects of the dna altering jab. Didn’t take it and never got Covid. In fact I havnt even had the flu since 2019.

I have no doubt you still drive in your car with a mask on by yourself

 

[pittbb80]

No. I said start a new thread. I'm not debating the flu in this thread.

Because you can’t answer the question. Nothing stopping you from stating a new one on your own.

 

[NCPitt]

As we mark the 5 Year Anniversary of basically when shutdowns began (sports getting canceled), I wanted to put this graph out because if you remember back then, many of you were saying Covid wasn't killing anyone. It was just the flu and people were dying at normal rates but there was a conspiracy to put Covid on the death certificates for hospital reimbursements. Back then, you said the only way to tell if it was a real thing would be based on death rates because you can write whatever you want on a death certificate but you cannot lie about whether or not someone actually dies. Well, here they are:

Total number of fatalities U.S. 2023 | Statista

In 2023, about 3.09 million deaths were reported in the United States.

www.statista.com

Historical jump in deaths from 2019 to 2021. Another big jump in 2021. A drop in 2022 but still probably slightly higher than a non-Covid 2019/20/21/22 normal trend. Drop in 2023 so we are back on what would have been a normal, slightly gradual rise from 2019 to 20 to 21 to 22 to 23 if there was never Covid.

But I swear that most of you will either believe these death numbers are wrong or say Covid still didn't cause any deaths and this jump in deaths was caused by something else. Or, or, just hear me out. Covid actually did kill a ton of people (yes, mostly old people) in 20 and 21. You can criticize the shutdowns all you want, that's a whole different debate. I am simply saying Covid was real and killed a lot of people. Would anyone admit that?

Covid killed people. There is no doubt of that. But causes can be both from the virus and from associated actions.

1) A bad virus can cause direct death in those susceptible. The flu kills people. Covid killed people.

2) Hospitals mistreated Covid patients. In hindsight, we've learned that ventilators were the exact wrong thing to do. They killed people that might have otherwise lived. Other treatments may have been misapplied, too

3) Treatments that would have worked, like ivermectin, were dismissed but found later to be effective.

4) The jab killed some people. There is no doubt of that.

5) Government rules killed people. My stepfather was a victim of this. He had covid and was hospitalized. He recovered from the virus in a very weakened state. He was shipped off to a rehab facility. No one in the family, including my mother was ever allowed to visit with him. The only contact was by phone. They kept reporting that he was exercising and eating. After something like 8 weeks of isolation, my mother finally got to see him. He was near death, effectively by starvation. She took him home and he died within days. She feels guilty to this day because she believes that he would have lived with her care. I will never forgive the government/Fauci/Birx for his death.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

Covid killed people. There is no doubt of that. But causes can be both from the virus and from associated actions.

1) A bad virus can cause direct death in those susceptible. The flu kills people. Covid killed people.

2) Hospitals mistreated Covid patients. In hindsight, we've learned that ventilators were the exact wrong thing to do. They killed people that might have otherwise lived. Other treatments may have been misapplied, too

3) Treatments that would have worked, like ivermectin, were dismissed but found later to be effective.

4) The jab killed some people. There is no doubt of that.

5) Government rules killed people. My stepfather was a victim of this. He had covid and was hospitalized. He recovered from the virus in a very weakened state. He was shipped off to a rehab facility. No one in the family, including my mother was ever allowed to visit with him. The only contact was by phone. They kept reporting that he was exercising and eating. After something like 8 weeks of isolation, my mother finally got to see him. He was near death, effectively by starvation. She took him home and he died within days. She feels guilty to this day because she believes that he would have lived with her care. I will never forgive the government/Fauci/Birx for his death.

Do you think the virus itself killed more people than vaccines, treatment, and ventilators? Or just a pretty minor disease that had we never used ventilators and never developed a vaccine and used overcoming, then only a small number of people would have died? Inotherwords, if we went into a time warp with today's information and they put you in charge and they had to listen to you, would you say that by mandating ivermectin, outlawing ventilators, and outlawing any vaccine development, maybe only a few thousand people die or no real noticeable increase in the death rate?

 

[jtownknowitall]

. I will never forgive the government/Fauci/Birx for his death.

I wouldn’t let God off the hook for this either.

 

[NCPitt]

Do you think the virus itself killed more people than vaccines, treatment, and ventilators? Or just a pretty minor disease that had we never used ventilators and never developed a vaccine and used overcoming, then only a small number of people would have died? Inotherwords, if we went into a time warp with today's information and they put you in charge and they had to listen to you, would you say that by mandating ivermectin, outlawing ventilators, and outlawing any vaccine development, maybe only a few thousand people die or no real noticeable increase in the death rate?

I have no idea about any of that except 1 thing - mandates on anything are unacceptable.

I don't care about covid and no longer give it a second thought. But my memory will quickly return if the government tries anything like that again.

 

[NCPitt]

I wouldn’t let God off the hook for this either.

God gets no blame from me.

 

[Tvax1]

no doubt the govt Covid shutdown of schools led to far more suicide deaths of kids in the months and years afterward that would not have happened and I believe is still manifesting in harm to that cohort currently than Jan 6th led to suicide by police officers

 

[jtownknowitall]

God gets no blame from me.

Which one?

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

no doubt the govt Covid shutdown of schools led to far more suicide deaths of kids in the months and years afterward that would not have happened and I believe is still manifesting in harm to that cohort currently than Jan 6th led to suicide by police officers

How many kids killed themselves due to their schools being closed?

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

I have no idea about any of that except 1 thing - mandates on anything are unacceptable.

I don't care about covid and no longer give it a second thought. But my memory will quickly return if the government tries anything like that again.

OK but you know what I mean. If I could transport you into 2020 and you take over for Dr. Fauci with today's knowledge and you told hospitals that ventilators will kill people and developing a vaccine is a terrible idea because it will kill far more people than it helps and instruct hospitals that the use of inver is most effective, would the death rate basically be normal? Inotherwords, Covid is just a nothing burger? No noticeable change in death rates?

 

[Tvax1]

How many kids killed themselves due to their schools being closed?

Youth Suicide Rates Increased During the COVID-19 Pandemic

In one of the first studies to examine national youth suicide rates during the COVID-19 pandemic, researchers showed that the pandemic increased youth suicide rates and the impact varied by sex, age, and race and ethnicity.

www.nimh.nih.gov

 

[Tvax1]

How many kids killed themselves due to their schools being closed?

COVID-19 Pandemic Led to Increase in Suicide Attempts by Kids, Teens, Study Shows

A UVA Health study found a major rise in the number of children and adolescents attempting suicide by poison.

news.virginia.edu

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2666606522001821

 

[joeydavid]

I have no idea about any of that except 1 thing - mandates on anything are unacceptable.

I don't care about covid and no longer give it a second thought. But my memory will quickly return if the government tries anything like that again.

Yeah, phuck public health. Who needs to live?

BTW, there weren't any mandates with covid. But I'm not trying to end a good rant of stupidity so carry on...

 

[pittbb80]

Facts

For the first time ever they counted people who were determined to have been diagnosed as having covid using the PCR test as having died from covid even though they were admitted to the hospital and died from another terminal ailment such as cancer, heart failure etc. The most infamous being a guy who died in a motorcycle accident being included in the Covid death count. Scarf lady admitted this herself

CDC Exposed: Inflated Covid Deaths By 1600% Throughout The Election, “Violated Multiple Federal Laws” Peer-Reviewed Study Finds…State, Local Governments Must Act

Your Daily Station of Entertainment !!

www.stationgossip.com

Regarding the PCR test. The inventor Kerry Mullis said they are worthless As you increase the number of cycles the frequency of false positives increased greatly. At a high enough cycle count you can find fragments of DNA that have no relevance to determining whether someone has the active virus or not Covid deaths were greatly trumped up by a flawed test. This is why the flu disappeared

PCR Tests and the Rise of Disease Panic ⋆ Brownstone Institute

Despite the CDC’s own admission that PCR tests “may not indicate the presence of infectious virus," its use to do exactly that in the case of Covid was accepted without question. Worse still, the measures taken against calling PCR into question have become progressively more draconian and...

brownstone.org

Hospitals got bonuses for administering Remdesivir which has been proven to be a dangerous drug. It was known to cause liver failure

New COVID-19 Treatments Add-On Payment (NCTAP) | CMS

The COVID-19 public health emergency (PHE) ended at the end of the day on May 11, 2023. View Infectious diseases for a list of waivers and flexibilities that were in place during the PHE.

www.cms.gov

Hospitals also got a bonus for treating patients with COVID. This the use of the flawed PCR test


The fact that the covid vaccine alters DNA and is causing more deaths than the disease itself is not even debataable. There are numerous studies indicting this. This is just one

Study Links mRNA Shots to 17 Million Sudden Deaths - Slay News

A bombshell new study is raising major concerns about the widespread use of Covid mRNA shots after linking the injections to 17 million sudden deaths around the world.

slaynews.com

Here’s data from the UK

https://expose-news.com/2023/04/12/government-confirms-horrific-figures-on-covid-vaccine-deaths/

And how safe and effective went from well it works sometimes and you need to get Jabbed to protect me

 

[pittbb80]

Yeah, phuck public health. Who needs to live?

BTW, there weren't any mandates with covid. But I'm not trying to end a good rant of stupidity so carry on...

Is that why military service members were kicked out and many people who lost their jobs are now successfully winning law suits ?

 

[NCPitt]

Which one?

The only One.

 

[NCPitt]

OK but you know what I mean. If I could transport you into 2020 and you take over for Dr. Fauci with today's knowledge and you told hospitals that ventilators will kill people and developing a vaccine is a terrible idea because it will kill far more people than it helps and instruct hospitals that the use of inver is most effective, would the death rate basically be normal? Inotherwords, Covid is just a nothing burger? No noticeable change in death rates?

Did you even read my post? You would know the answer if you had.

 

[ChiefJusticeMarshall]

How many kids killed themselves due to their schools being closed?

No one ever in the history of any political situations killed themselves.................except those poor unfortunate souls who had to witness something worse than 10 Holocausts, 12 Hiroshima's and 20 9/11's and that wad those gatekeepers to January 6th.

 

[NCPitt]

Yeah, phuck public health. Who needs to live?

BTW, there weren't any mandates with covid. But I'm not trying to end a good rant of stupidity so carry on...

Speaking of stupidity...

The Trump government just killed one mandate in January. But mandates never existed according to you.

MSN

 

[NCPitt]

Covid killed people. There is no doubt of that. But causes can be both from the virus and from associated actions.

1) A bad virus can cause direct death in those susceptible. The flu kills people. Covid killed people.

2) Hospitals mistreated Covid patients. In hindsight, we've learned that ventilators were the exact wrong thing to do. They killed people that might have otherwise lived. Other treatments may have been misapplied, too

3) Treatments that would have worked, like ivermectin, were dismissed but found later to be effective.

4) The jab killed some people. There is no doubt of that.

5) Government rules killed people. My stepfather was a victim of this. He had covid and was hospitalized. He recovered from the virus in a very weakened state. He was shipped off to a rehab facility. No one in the family, including my mother was ever allowed to visit with him. The only contact was by phone. They kept reporting that he was exercising and eating. After something like 8 weeks of isolation, my mother finally got to see him. He was near death, effectively by starvation. She took him home and he died within days. She feels guilty to this day because she believes that he would have lived with her care. I will never forgive the government/Fauci/Birx for his death.

jtownknowitall actually laughed at the death of my stepfather.

 

[pittbb80]

jtownknowitall actually laughed at the death of my stepfather.

Are you surprised ? We have a clown who thinks taking to the streets and burning looting and murdering it’s justified if you think someone was killed unjustly before all the evidence is presented and the offender goes to trial. We are not dealing with people who have high moral and ethical standards We see in in the representatives they promote in DC

 

[pittbb80]

Nothing says fake pandemic like dancing nurses

 

[BPKY]

Nothing says fake pandemic like dancing nurses

View embedded media

Those were fake videos made by MAGA nurses!

My favorites were the videos by the dude who drove around Miami filming outside hospitals where dozens of nurses just congregated in the parking lots smoking.

 

[jtownknowitall]

jtownknowitall actually laughed at the death of my stepfather.

I laughed at a pious phony blaming his death on the government. I laugh at clowns. You and 80 are clowns. Now go count your money again.