Critique on Patti all Over the Map

[chirurgo]

I. can’t believe the spectrum of opinions on this kid. I have read that his throwing mechanics are subpar, he can throw the deep ball, his timing is off, he is restricted to short passes. Then someone compared him to hybrid Russell Wilson/Tyler Palko and suggested the second coming of Tom Brady.

All he has done so far as a redshirt freshman come in against a ranked team and throw a critical touchdown and then win. Who cares what a redshirt freshman does if when he gets called upon to start a game and wins? The college football landscape is littered with FCS vs FBS close calls and upsets. They started zero players from their 1st string offensive backfield, and about half of their 1st string defensive backfield. On a week of preparation, they won. End of story.

This pro-Patti and anti-Patti stuff is ridiculous. At face value he is 3 star recruit who can be developed over the course of 5 years. If all he does is win when asked to lead the team, then why the critique?

 

[Cap pitt]

Patti did a fine job

 

[King Of All Message Boards]

Yea given where he’s at in his young “career” he’s acquitted himself pretty nicely. My criticism today - was that he was too quick to bail out of the pocket. And I stand by that. He also may need to deliver the ball a bit quicker. But given the new speed of the game it’s understandable that might be a little off and that could come. And as others mentioned the intended receivers could have done better coming back and fighting for the ball.

 

[JD1976]

He was solid. You can see there’s talent and moxie in there.

 

[Bethlehemjohn]

I. can’t believe the spectrum of opinions on this kid. I have read that his throwing mechanics are subpar, he can throw the deep ball, his timing is off, he is restricted to short passes. Then someone compared him to hybrid Russell Wilson/Tyler Palko and suggested the second coming of Tom Brady.

All he has done so far as a redshirt freshman come in against a ranked team and throw a critical touchdown and then win. Who cares what a redshirt freshman does if when he gets called upon to start a game and wins? The college football landscape is littered with FCS vs FBS close calls and upsets. They started zero players from their 1st string offensive backfield, and about half of their 1st string defensive backfield. On a week of preparation, they won. End of story.

This pro-Patti and anti-Patti stuff is ridiculous. At face value he is 3 star recruit who can be developed over the course of 5 years. If all he does is win when asked to lead the team, then why the critique?

He was fine. He was pretty good in the pocket and it was very apparent the coaches told him not to run so he didn't get hurt. Last week he ran very effectively, so that was a missing part of his game. He did make a few bad reads, but threw the deep ball well enough that we should have taken a few more shots.

 

[RingDinger]

Taking all the facts into consideration, my take was that he seemed pretty similar to Pickett from an overall talent standpoint. If you let him develop for a year, I'm guessing you would have fairly similar results.

 

[HunkyPanther]

Patti did fine...what more do people want in a first career start. Had the team as a whole played better, we wouldn’t be having this conversation about him.

 

[Panther Parrothead]

For a new QB who didn't have a running game to help, Patti played a respectable game and a solid first start.

And how many clutch passes did his receivers drop?

 

[CaptainMurphy]

I bet there are many P5 programs who would love to have a second and third string QB as talented as ours. Showed a lot of poise in his first start on a moment's notice. I wouldn't want him honing his skills against the meat of the ACC schedule but he did well yesterday.

 

[Pittx9]

Whether you think he played a good game or not, you’re an absolute dope if you’re in the camp trying to claim Patti doesn’t have a strong arm. He had a beautiful throw on that 48 yard completion early in the game and another huge, clutch throw on the 3rd and 17 completion to Mack.

 

[HopeandChangeforAntoons]

Patti wasn’t great. He made some bad throws and can’t drive the ball like Pickett. But he was still waaaay ahead of DiNucci. Decent first start.

 

[PittMan 72]

He was fine. He was pretty good in the pocket and it was very apparent the coaches told him not to run so he didn't get hurt. Last week he ran very effectively, so that was a missing part of his game. He did make a few bad reads, but threw the deep ball well enough that we should have taken a few more shots.

Agree with your observation about Patti's running being limited intentionally. Pitt was already down a QB for this game. Didn't want to risk being down another. That took away an aspect of what Patti has in arsenal as a QB.

Thought the most apparent issue Nick had passing was reading underneath coverage. The Hens were dropping lots of people into coverage. After NP threw the int in the 2Q he got a little hesitant and started throwing to the check down guy almost immediately at times. There were several times you could see the check down guy had no chance to make yardage after the catch. Later, Pitt was very fortunate that the deflected over the middle ball in the 3Q ended up not only not being picked, but bounced Pitt's way for a catch. That was another case where Patti didn't see the underneath coverage when throwing downfield.

But overall, NP has shown ability the past 2 weeks. Yesterday was a much different experience having the entire burden on his shoulders for the whole game; not just a couple of series. He has shown he has some talent and this experience should serve both Nick and Pitt well. The 3rd and 17 conversion (kudos to Mack for coming down with that) and the excellent TD throw in a tight window to Mack showed poise, moxie and skill.

 

[goalieman]

I. can’t believe the spectrum of opinions on this kid. I have read that his throwing mechanics are subpar, he can throw the deep ball, his timing is off, he is restricted to short passes. Then someone compared him to hybrid Russell Wilson/Tyler Palko and suggested the second coming of Tom Brady.

All he has done so far as a redshirt freshman come in against a ranked team and throw a critical touchdown and then win. Who cares what a redshirt freshman does if when he gets called upon to start a game and wins? The college football landscape is littered with FCS vs FBS close calls and upsets. They started zero players from their 1st string offensive backfield, and about half of their 1st string defensive backfield. On a week of preparation, they won. End of story.

This pro-Patti and anti-Patti stuff is ridiculous. At face value he is 3 star recruit who can be developed over the course of 5 years. If all he does is win when asked to lead the team, then why the critique?

I thought Patti did fine for his first start ...... he was poised and didn't look rattled, accuracy was pretty good, completed a couple long passes which were important to the outcome of the game, did well on the game winning drive especially the game winning TD pass which he threaded through several defenders (really nice pass), had several passes dropped which if caught would have improved his stats and may have led to more points for Pitt .....

However, as expected from an inexperienced QB, he missed some open receivers, threw late on occasion, threw a bad interception, and despite what Pittx9 said above, I felt his arm strength was average ..... also, we need to consider in his evaluation that we were playing Delaware not an ACC opponent.

Overall, I thought that Patti helped us win the game and not that we won despite him ...... hopefully Pickett is healthy for the Duke game.

 

[RingDinger]

Agree with your observation about Patti's running being limited intentionally. Pitt was already down a QB for this game. Didn't want to risk being down another. That took away an aspect of what Patti has in arsenal as a QB.

Thought the most apparent issue Nick had passing was reading underneath coverage. The Hens were dropping lots of people into coverage. After NP threw the int in the 2Q he got a little hesitant and started throwing to the check down guy almost immediately at times. There were several times you could see the check down guy had no chance to make yardage after the catch. Later, Pitt was very fortunate that the deflected over the middle ball in the 3Q ended up not only not being picked, but bounced Pitt's way for a catch. That was another case where Patti didn't see the underneath coverage when throwing downfield.

But overall, NP has shown ability the past 2 weeks. Yesterday was a much different experience having the entire burden on his shoulders for the whole game; not just a couple of series. He has shown he has some talent and this experience should serve both Nick and Pitt well. The 3rd and 17 conversion (kudos to Mack for coming down with that) and the excellent TD throw in a tight window to Mack showed poise, moxie and skill.

I thought Delaware really dropped the ball on that 3rd and 17. I mean, how many other receivers do we have who we can depend on for such a crucial play of that distance? We might have settled for lobbing one up to Mack in double coverage in that situation: Him being matched up one-on-one with a defender playing press coverage and thus allowing Mack to get behind him was just icing on the cake. If Delaware doesn't have a mental lapse there, I hate to imagine how that game might have turned out.

Credit the players for executing that play, but I thought it was quite a gift.

 

[PittMan 72]

I thought Delaware really dropped the ball on that 3rd and 17. I mean, how many other receivers do we have who we can depend on for such a crucial play of that distance? We might have settled for lobbing one up to Mack in double coverage in that situation: Him being matched up one-on-one with a defender playing press coverage and thus allowing Mack to get behind him was just icing on the cake. If Delaware doesn't have a mental lapse there, I hate to imagine how that game might have turned out.

Credit the players for executing that play, but I thought it was quite a gift.

A big part of football is taking advantage of the opponent's mistakes. Still, Pitt had to execute there. The OL protected; Patti got the ball there; Mack made the catch. Huge play.

 

[lilspainishflea]

Patti was ok.

Liked
- Downfield shots
- TD throw to Mack was into very tight coverage
- Liked the middle of the field read to V. Carter on the TD

Disliked
- INT was horrible. Really, really bad.
- Had all day to throw but frequently bailed out of the pocket as early as possible
- Doesn't seem to go through progressions
- Too quick to check down. I remember him throwing a swing pass on something like 3rd and 9 and the RB was immediately tackled for a 2 yard loss. You can't expect your RB to get 11 yards there.

 

[Zeldas Open Roof]

think he played well, made some good plays including the late long pass to Mack which was a huge play and the TD pass was nice too. Throwing style is a bit unorthodox but it is what it is. think his delivery is slow and all the reps in the world wont change that. he did seem a second late on some plays and reps WILL help that, help his timing.

pretty happy with him as our backup. tough to say this early what his ceiling is and if he can be that above P5 QB if and when his time comes.. right now, i wouldn't feel good if PIckett missed the duke game though, i think right now, it would be a significant drop in production between him and pickett.

with all that said, i believe we have a pretty good backup QB..

 

[pittdan77]

I'm not sure how anyone looks at that game and can get a solid opinion of Patti that doesn't coach QB's for a living. The fact that Pitt couldn't line up and blow the D-line off the ball was far more disturbing than anything else that happened Saturday.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

He is only a true FR but I didn't see anything that made me think he is the QB of the future or anything like that.

 

[RaleighPittFan]

He is only a true FR but I didn't see anything that made me think he is the QB of the future or anything like that.

Other than the fact that he's a RS Freshman, your comment is almost right.

Baby steps.