John Beilein should be the first and last call. You make sure he doesn’t hang up without accepting. All the other guys listed (except Steve Forbes) won’t win there.
If Wes Miller ends up getting hired by UNC four years from now, then you know it was a good hire by WF. That would mean he did well at WF.The sad part is the basketball facility is named after Wes Miller’s dad. So they’ll probably end up hiring him. If he’s any good, they’re just a training ground for UNC to snatch him when Roy retires.
Wouldn't be the direction I’d go but what do I know.
Probably because Beilein knows the only way his degenerate son is going to get another chance to coach is if he hires him. And getting higher academic kids is right in his wheelhouse.If Wes Miller ends up getting hired by UNC four years from now, then you know it was a good hire by WF. That would mean he did well at WF.
Why would Beilein want the WF job? He is getting paid a lot of money to stay retired and enjoy life.
Forbes would be a good hire if the administration stays out of his way.
Unfortunately their recruiting class sucksIm guessing we see some decommits, transfers????
Winston Salem is much nicerDidn’t Beileins wife hate Morgantown ? The Wake Forest area wouldn’t be much different. Not urban or cosmopolitan in any way. It’s a beautiful campus and nice area. I picture Beilein coaching in the Northeast or Midwest again. He would make Wake very competitive because his offense lends itself to recruiting certain type players and he has the track record to attract those players.
Ian Dubose - didn't Pitt have interest?Unfortunately their recruiting class sucks
I guess I was only looking at the freshmen and not transfersIan Dubose - didn't Pitt have interest?
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-b...-adds-ian-dubose-isaiah-wilkins-transfer-help
Lol i saw that, but like the other poster said, that Ian duboise guy we were interested in.Unfortunately their recruiting class sucks
Didn’t Beileins wife hate Morgantown ? The Wake Forest area wouldn’t be much different. Not urban or cosmopolitan in any way. It’s a beautiful campus and nice area. I picture Beilein coaching in the Northeast or Midwest again. He would make Wake very competitive because his offense lends itself to recruiting certain type players and he has the track record to attract those players.
If they end with Ryan Odom, who is a good coach, when they could have him whenever they want it is a mistake. If they get Shaka (who sucks) or out kick their coverage more than that it will be the right move. Will all depend on the hire.WF is a tough gig. They should have kept Manning....imo
So you would’ve saved the 1 year of the buyout money by paying him his salary? Do you understand how money works?Although he deserves to be fired, this is a really stupid time to do it. There is no guarantee there will be a basketball season. And if there is, there is no guarantee fans will be allowed. If it were me at this point, I would have let him "coach" during this coronavirus season and save 1 year of the buyout money. Even if they hire some coach everyone is excited about, recruiting in this climate will be a struggle, fans may not be allowed in the building, and there may not even be a season
Really? You have to do a good job to get your dream job? See Chryst comma Paul.If Wes Miller ends up getting hired by UNC four years from now, then you know it was a good hire by WF. That would mean he did well at WF.
Why would Beilein want the WF job? He is getting paid a lot of money to stay retired and enjoy life.
Forbes would be a good hire if the administration stays out of his way.
Are you really trying to compare the position of Head Basketball Coach at UNC to the 4th or 5th best football program in the Big 10? You’ve got to be kidding me. UNC is an elite program that has its own brand. Maybe you’ve heard of him. See Jordan comma Michael.Really? You have to do a good job to get your dream job? See Chryst comma Paul.
So you would’ve saved the 1 year of the buyout money by paying him his salary? Do you understand how money works?
They specifically fired him right now because they probably had donors have small business loans come through and they have no competition for whoever their top targets are. I’m sure you’ll come back with another nonsensical wrong response.
1) the school’s money is paying the basketball coach, the buyout money is obviously from boosters.100% because now they will pay 2 coaches to do nothing for a year potentially. There is no guarantee that there will be a season and if that's the case Wake will be foolish enough to be paying 2 coaches for no basketball. Geniuses.
I’m comparing dream jobs. Wes Miller is barely 40 games over .500 in his career and it’s the worst kept secret in the world hes gOnna be the next coach at UNC. You can argue about it until your blue in the face but he could lose 20 games the next 3 years and still replace Roy. They’re hiring a UNC guy and he will be the most qualified. If they actually tried to hire the best candidate, you may be right. But that’s not the way North Carolina does itAre you really trying to compare the position of Head Basketball Coach at UNC to the 4th or 5th best football program in the Big 10? You’ve got to be kidding me. UNC is an elite program that has its own brand. Maybe you’ve heard of him. See Jordan comma Michael.
1) the school’s money is paying the basketball coach, the buyout money is obviously from boosters.
2) why do you care how your school spends money?
3) by your logic we should’ve kept stallings
4) the damage to the program of keeping him another year outweighs the maybe 1.1-1.2 million extra it’s gonna take to lure Ryan Odom or Pat Kelsey.
5) there’s also a chance that 15 million is significantly lower than what he’s actually getting.
So you think that Wake Forest happened to wait until all these small businesses got loans they don’t have to pay back 6 weeks after the season and instantly decided to fire Manning during an obvious economic shortfall for the university’s athletic department for the hell of it?You have no idea about #1.
If there is no season, Manning would have done absolutely 0 damage.
So you think that Wake Forest happened to wait until all these small businesses got loans they don’t have to pay back 6 weeks after the season and instantly decided to fire Manning during an obvious economic shortfall for the university’s athletic department for the hell of it?
Mannnnn.... you will spin on your head to try and figure out a way to be not be wrong.
Man you really don’t follow college basketball. Twitter.com would be a helpful resource for you.Small business owners used their PPP loans to buyout Manning? WTF are you talking about?
I’ll take that bet. If Wes Miller loses 20 or more games the next 3 years, then he will not be hired by UNC to replace Ole Roy.I’m comparing dream jobs. Wes Miller is barely 40 games over .500 in his career and it’s the worst kept secret in the world hes gOnna be the next coach at UNC. You can argue about it until your blue in the face but he could lose 20 games the next 3 years and still replace Roy. They’re hiring a UNC guy and he will be the most qualified. If they actually tried to hire the best candidate, you may be right. But that’s not the way North Carolina does it
GOnna be tough to bet it since he won’t do it... but he’s his replacement. Worst kept secret in CBBI’ll take that bet. If Wes Miller loses 20 or more games the next 3 years, then he will not be hired by UNC to replace Ole Roy.
Unfortunately their recruiting class sucks
I'm not doubting what you are saying because Carolina has kept the last 3 hires in the family (Guthridge, Doherty and Williams), but if Roy stays a few more years that gives Jerry Stackhouse a chance to prove his chops as a high D-1 coach. He would have to be in the mix and given a good look if he has at least some measure of success at Vandy wouldn't he?GOnna be tough to bet it since he won’t do it... but he’s his replacement. Worst kept secret in CBB
Hmm good point. I don’t see them hiring a black coach thoughI'm not doubting what you are saying because Carolina has kept the last 3 hires in the family (Guthridge, Doherty and Williams), but if Roy stays a few more years that gives Jerry Stackhouse a chance to prove his chops as a high D-1 coach. He would have to be in the mix and given a good look if he has at least some measure of success at Vandy wouldn't he?
It's 2020 and Wes Miller is no guarantee to replace Uncle Roy - that's a Top 5 CBB job and they'll have their pick of some pretty big guns - I'll take some of that action too - H2P!Hmm good point. I don’t see them hiring a black coach though
It’s gonna be a Carolina guy and stackhouse and Miller are the only two coaching.It's 2020 and Wes Miller is no guarantee to replace Uncle Roy - that's a Top 5 CBB job and they'll have their pick of some pretty big guns - I'll take some of that action too - H2P!
Man you really don’t follow college basketball. Twitter.com would be a helpful resource for you.
there’s like a billion articles about companies receiving government money then laying off employees in the last few weeks and you’re surprised this is what most college bb writers are suggesting happened???
What did you think? John Currie found 15 mill in his couch cushions?
It’s what everyone is assuming since they came up with the money out of nowhere. Stick to what you know... nothing.OK. So you don't know that small business owners bought him out with their PPP loans. Thanks for confirming.
Stick to Rutgers basketball. You are strangely informed when it comes to all things Scarlet Knights.
It’s what everyone is assuming since they came up with the money out of nowhere. Stick to what you know... nothing.
Yes... you know people that actually work in basketball. Not but cases on the basketball board who think they know everything but have been proven wrong time and again.Assuming????
Stick to Rutgers, chump! I'll handle the Pitt and ACC stuff.
Yes... you know people that actually work in basketball. Not but cases on the basketball board who think they know everything but have been proven wrong time and again.
I’m dying laughing you think that ISNT how they came up with the money. They decided 6 weeks after their season ended in the middle of a pandemic without the certainty of fall football to pay 15 mil out of the school’s athletic budget.
BRO, do you know anything about how buyouts are paid? I’m assuming you understand how Stallings was bought out... (hint, it wasn’t the school).
It’s not a federal crime lmao. And I said that he probably took a reduced buyout as one of my original answers. You’re quite possibly the dumbest person I’ve ever encountered: I’m surprised you don’t fall down a lotOr it could be his buyout got reduced by X amount on April 15 or April 20 or whatever ya know. That is more plausible than small business using their PPP money for this (which actually may be a federal crime).