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Western Carolina is also on. Its part of the Fox Sports South ACC syndicated package and will be televised locally on Root Sports. It will be on many different regional sports networks throughout the country so check your local listings. If its televised locally, it should be blacked out on ESPN3 but that isnt always the case.
 
Western Carolina is also on. Its part of the Fox Sports South ACC syndicated package and will be televised locally on Root Sports. It will be on many different regional sports networks throughout the country so check your local listings. If its televised locally, it should be blacked out on ESPN3 but that isnt always the case.
Thanks, SMF, but what does this have to do with the per pound price of chipped ham in Blawnox?
 
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It would have been way better if it was like it used to be and those games weren't available to be seen by anyone other than the people who were actually in the arena, wouldn't it?

Joe, we don't always have to be critical of anyone who posts even a hint or modicum of negativity or criticism towards this program. Some of you just can't help yourselves, but I think pretty much 80% of the Pantherlair readers were thinking the same thing Del posted. So....ya know, Pitt BB program doesn't always have to be defended.
 
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Joe, we don't always have to be critical of anyone who posts even a hint or modicum of negativity or criticism towards this program. Some of you just can't help yourselves, but I think pretty much 80% of the Pantherlair readers were thinking the same thing Del posted. So....ya know, Pitt BB program doesn't always have to be defended.


And I think that more than 20% of the people that post on this board have a chance to go to pretty much all the home games (del is not in this group) and if they want to bitch about television coverage that is vastly superior to what it was even five or ten years ago then they could get off their asses and actually go to the games.

Oh, no, that's right, we are Pitt fans. The home of more fans who bitch about the dumbest things than any fans anywhere. I mean you do realize that his bitch is that there are a bunch of games that he NEVER would have had a chance to see in the past that he can now watch at his home, don't you? My problem isn't that he was criticizing "the program", my problem is that his criticism is moronic. If watching the games on ESPN3 is causing him so much angst, just turn the computer off and pretend it's 2005 instead of 2015 when there was no way for him to watch any of these kinds of games.
 
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Why do these people even watch games. It only makes their lives mormanual e miserable. Pitt loses they bitch, Pitt wins close they bitch it was close, Pitt wins big well they were supposed to or someone didn't have a great game. Blah blah blah. Now they biatch because they have to do all that work to hook a device to their set to watch on a big screen. How sad.
 
And I think that more than 20% of the people that post on this board have a chance to go to pretty much all the home games (del is not in this group) and if they want to bitch about television coverage that is vastly superior to what it was even five or ten years ago then they could get off their asses and actually go to the games.

Oh, no, that's right, we are Pitt fans. The home of more fans who bitch about the dumbest things than any fans anywhere. I mean you do realize that his bitch is that there are a bunch of games that he NEVER would have had a chance to see in the past that he can now watch at his home, don't you? My problem isn't that he was criticizing "the program", my problem is that his criticism is moronic. If watching the games on ESPN3 is causing him so much angst, just turn the computer off and pretend it's 2005 instead of 2015 when there was no way for him to watch any of these kinds of games.
Joe, what I will say is that although I have complained about the schedule, If I lived in Pittsburgh, I'd use my season tickets and attend every game. I complain but I'm loyal. I will be at Annapolis too. Since Pitt has joined the ACC the TV hoops coverage has deteriorated. There are a lot of Pitt fans who live outside of W. Pa. who would like to follow Pitt athletics as closely as possible. You give them the ability to do so and they are potential financial supporters and future season ticket holders. Nothing good comes out of more limited, lower quality coverage.
 
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The more games that are nationally or even regionally available helps in selling the program to recruits. Fans have gotten spoiled by home games being televised .
 
Joe, what I will say is that although I have complained about the schedule, If I lived in Pittsburgh, I'd use my season tickets and attend every game. I complain but I'm loyal. I will be at Annapolis too. Since Pitt has joined the ACC the TV hoops coverage has deteriorated. There are a lot of Pitt fans who live outside of W. Pa. who would like to follow Pitt athletics as closely as possible. You give them the ability to do so and they are potential financial supporters and future season ticket holders. Nothing good comes out of more limited, lower quality coverage.
I live in North Carolina and haven't missed a game .

5 years ago with better coverage , half of these games weren't brosdcast on tv, or only locally on that Comcast channel.
So... As someone who has lived away from Pittsburgh since 2002...
I find your assessment to be frankly wrong.
Because , you know...it is.
 
Joe, what I will say is that although I have complained about the schedule, If I lived in Pittsburgh, I'd use my season tickets and attend every game. I complain but I'm loyal. I will be at Annapolis too. Since Pitt has joined the ACC the TV hoops coverage has deteriorated. There are a lot of Pitt fans who live outside of W. Pa. who would like to follow Pitt athletics as closely as possible. You give them the ability to do so and they are potential financial supporters and future season ticket holders. Nothing good comes out of more limited, lower quality coverage.


First of all, for all our disagreements I've never said that you weren't a Pitt fan and I understand that you don't live anywhere close enough to make it to all that many games, certainly not nearly as many as you'd like. I will never have a problem with you on that score.

Now having said that, let's compare Pitt coverage from this season with the coverage of Pitt ten years ago. This season Pitt plays 13 nonconference games. One game is on ESPN, one on ESPN2, one on ESPNU, one on CBSSN, one syndicated regionally (Root Pittsburgh for the locals), and eight games available on ESPN3. So four national telecast, one regional one, and 8 computer only.

Now lets look at the 2005-2006 season, ten years ago. I conveniently have that media guide sitting right here at my computer desk. That team played 11 nonconference games. None of them were on ESPN or any of the ESPN networks. None of them were played on any other national network. Two of them were syndicated regionally (Root Pittsburgh's predecessor for the locals), Penn State and Wisconsin. And of course there was no such thing as internet broadcasts back then, so there were none of those. That meant that not only was the Duquesne game not televised that season, but neither was the road game at South Carolina.

So please explain to me how the television coverage has deteriorated. It's like as if people do not remember how few nonconference games were actually televised "back in the good ol' days". This season, if you want to you can watch EVERY Pitt basketball game somewhere. Ten short years ago you couldn't watch 9 of 11 nonconference games no matter what you did, unless you were actually in the arena. On what planet is that kind of coverage better than what we have today?
 
I live in North Carolina and haven't missed a game .

5 years ago with better coverage , half of these games weren't brosdcast on tv, or only locally on that Comcast channel.
So... As someone who has lived away from Pittsburgh since 2002...
I find your assessment to be frankly wrong.
Because , you know...it is.
You live in NC, the only state the ACC cares about. Good for you! Your post is as dumb as usual!
 
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And just in case anyone thinks I'm cherry picking a certain year, the following season, 2006-2007, Pitt played a whopping 15 nonconference games. 2 were on ESPN, 1 on ESPN2, 1 on ESPNU, 4 were syndicated regionally (again, Root Pittsburgh's predecessor for the locals), and seven of them weren't shown anywhere. Among the games that had no television coverage at all were a home game against Florida State and a road game at Auburn. Again, how is that better than what we have this season?
 
And just in case anyone thinks I'm cherry picking a certain year, the following season, 2006-2007, Pitt played a whopping 15 nonconference games. 2 were on ESPN, 1 on ESPN2, 1 on ESPNU, 4 were syndicated regionally (again, Root Pittsburgh's predecessor for the locals), and seven of them weren't shown anywhere. Among the games that had no television coverage at all were a home game against Florida State and a road game at Auburn. Again, how is that better than what we have this season?
Damn, everything is an argument with you.
 
First of all, for all our disagreements I've never said that you weren't a Pitt fan and I understand that you don't live anywhere close enough to make it to all that many games, certainly not nearly as many as you'd like. I will never have a problem with you on that score.

Now having said that, let's compare Pitt coverage from this season with the coverage of Pitt ten years ago. This season Pitt plays 13 nonconference games. One game is on ESPN, one on ESPN2, one on ESPNU, one on CBSSN, one syndicated regionally (Root Pittsburgh for the locals), and eight games available on ESPN3. So four national telecast, one regional one, and 8 computer only.

Now lets look at the 2005-2006 season, ten years ago. I conveniently have that media guide sitting right here at my computer desk. That team played 11 nonconference games. None of them were on ESPN or any of the ESPN networks. None of them were played on any other national network. Two of them were syndicated regionally (Root Pittsburgh's predecessor for the locals), Penn State and Wisconsin. And of course there was no such thing as internet broadcasts back then, so there were none of those. That meant that not only was the Duquesne game not televised that season, but neither was the road game at South Carolina.

So please explain to me how the television coverage has deteriorated. It's like as if people do not remember how few nonconference games were actually televised "back in the good ol' days". This season, if you want to you can watch EVERY Pitt basketball game somewhere. Ten short years ago you couldn't watch 9 of 11 nonconference games no matter what you did, unless you were actually in the arena. On what planet is that kind of coverage better than what we have today?[/QUOTE

Back in the day Root(Fox sports Pittsburgh)t broadcasted a slew of Pitt home games(including OOC opponents), regardless of the caliber of the opponent, and as a subscriber to the DTV sports package you could get access rights to everything aired on the Fox sports regional networks including the Pitt games. As you know very few games are now on Root, the successor to Fox Sports Pittsburgh. Add to that, in the Philadelphia area the ACC doesn't really have an affiliate that broadcasts ACC regional games-the first year Pitt was in the ACC, the ACC regional affiliate in the Phil. area was a Spanish speaking station that wasn't even available on many cable networks or DTV. The ACC's regional sports network is very poor.
 
First of all, for all our disagreements I've never said that you weren't a Pitt fan and I understand that you don't live anywhere close enough to make it to all that many games, certainly not nearly as many as you'd like. I will never have a problem with you on that score.

Now having said that, let's compare Pitt coverage from this season with the coverage of Pitt ten years ago. This season Pitt plays 13 nonconference games. One game is on ESPN, one on ESPN2, one on ESPNU, one on CBSSN, one syndicated regionally (Root Pittsburgh for the locals), and eight games available on ESPN3. So four national telecast, one regional one, and 8 computer only.

Now lets look at the 2005-2006 season, ten years ago. I conveniently have that media guide sitting right here at my computer desk. That team played 11 nonconference games. None of them were on ESPN or any of the ESPN networks. None of them were played on any other national network. Two of them were syndicated regionally (Root Pittsburgh's predecessor for the locals), Penn State and Wisconsin. And of course there was no such thing as internet broadcasts back then, so there were none of those. That meant that not only was the Duquesne game not televised that season, but neither was the road game at South Carolina.

So please explain to me how the television coverage has deteriorated. It's like as if people do not remember how few nonconference games were actually televised "back in the good ol' days". This season, if you want to you can watch EVERY Pitt basketball game somewhere. Ten short years ago you couldn't watch 9 of 11 nonconference games no matter what you did, unless you were actually in the arena. On what planet is that kind of coverage better than what we have today?
Back in the day, Fox Sports Pittsburgh ( now Root) picked up a few OOC games every year and these games were part of the DTV fox sports package. As you know, Root has shown fewer and fewer games each year meaning that games some people could once watch on Fox can now only be watched on EsSPN 3. So there is a difference!
 
Back in the day, Fox Sports Pittsburgh ( now Root) picked up a few OOC games every year and these games were part of the DTV fox sports package. As you know, Root has shown fewer and fewer games each year meaning that games some people could once watch on Fox can now only be watched on EsSPN 3. So there is a difference!
Yes, now everyone gets them .
Not just those with sports pack.
And they aren't blacked out.
 
Espn3 is in hd for me.

It's really no different as a broadcast .

ESPN3 is in HD but since its a stream, its a little choppy. Everytime I watch a streamed sporting event, it drives me crazy. I guess that may be what's referred to as the "refresh rate." The players are moving faster than the stream is the best way I can explain it. Watching a stream now and then is ok but couldnt imagine watching sports like that all the time.
 
ESPN3 is in HD but since its a stream, its a little choppy. Everytime I watch a streamed sporting event, it drives me crazy. I guess that may be what's referred to as the "refresh rate." The players are moving faster than the stream is the best way I can explain it. Watching a stream now and then is ok but couldnt imagine watching sports like that all the time.
You need better internet.

It's flawless for me.
I streamed regular ESPN and my wife couldn't tell it wasn't our directv .

It's that good .
Just wait until I have google fiber .
 
You need better internet.

It's flawless for me.
I streamed regular ESPN and my wife couldn't tell it wasn't our directv .

It's that good .
Just wait until I have google fiber .

Maybe but I have the fastest internet that Comcast offers residential customers which I would say is a pretty common form of internet offering for the average streamer. The stream isnt that bad but there is enough choppiness that it makes the cable picture look awesome in comparison. FWIW, you cant notice the choppiness when streaming non-sports. I guess there is too much movement in sports broadcasts to make it noticeable.

What internet do you have?
 
Maybe but I have the fastest internet that Comcast offers residential customers which I would say is a pretty common form of internet offering for the average streamer. The stream isnt that bad but there is enough choppiness that it makes the cable picture look awesome in comparison. FWIW, you cant notice the choppiness when streaming non-sports. I guess there is too much movement in sports broadcasts to make it noticeable.

What internet do you have?
TimeWarner. 200MPS.
 
That is not what refresh rate means.

Yeah, his problem is almost certainly bandwidth. He has Comcast, which means cable internet. Which is really good when you are the only person on your block who is using the bandwidth. But when the girl next door starts downloading the complete Taylor Swift catalog and the couple next door starts downloading a movie from Netflix and so on and so on then his proverbial piece of the pipeline keeps getting smaller and smaller. And the smaller it gets the worse his picture looks, because the content providers recognize that and send him a lower bandwidth, aka lower quality, feed.
 
Yeah, his problem is almost certainly bandwidth. He has Comcast, which means cable internet. Which is really good when you are the only person on your block who is using the bandwidth. But when the girl next door starts downloading the complete Taylor Swift catalog and the couple next door starts downloading a movie from Netflix and so on and so on then his proverbial piece of the pipeline keeps getting smaller and smaller. And the smaller it gets the worse his picture looks, because the content providers recognize that and send him a lower bandwidth, aka lower quality, feed.

Could be as simple as poor wifi within a house. What your neighbors are doing shouldn't greatly affect ESPN3. If someone else in your own home is using bandwidth, that will be an issue. It should pick video quality based on what transfer rate is possible. If you have low bandwidth, it should appear blocky and compressed, but stay in realtime. Lag or dropped frames is likely something more complicated.

It also depends on what you're using to play the video: browser, phone, console, etc. the Xbox One app from ESPN is awful. The Apple TV app is pretty great. Not all created equal!
 
And just in case anyone thinks I'm cherry picking a certain year, the following season, 2006-2007, Pitt played a whopping 15 nonconference games. 2 were on ESPN, 1 on ESPN2, 1 on ESPNU, 4 were syndicated regionally (again, Root Pittsburgh's predecessor for the locals), and seven of them weren't shown anywhere. Among the games that had no television coverage at all were a home game against Florida State and a road game at Auburn. Again, how is that better than what we have this season?
That Auburn game was on tv somewhere because I watched it.
 
Could be as simple as poor wifi within a house. What your neighbors are doing shouldn't greatly affect ESPN3. If someone else in your own home is using bandwidth, that will be an issue. It should pick video quality based on what transfer rate is possible. If you have low bandwidth, it should appear blocky and compressed, but stay in realtime. Lag or dropped frames is likely something more complicated.

It also depends on what you're using to play the video: browser, phone, console, etc. the Xbox One app from ESPN is awful. The Apple TV app is pretty great. Not all created equal!

Agree with this. My ESPN3 on the Apple TV has always worked great for me
 
I use the WatchESPN app and just throw content to my screens on a Chromecast or the Roku literally all the time. Same for Netflix. Works like a charm. The Pitt games have been just fine in both quality and quality of streaming in my opinion.

There are times for the live events where the quality might drop a bit here and there, but that's very rare. I honestly see a tiny difference in quality between DirecTV and the compressed steram via the app but it's minimal. People should figure it out because in ten years that's pretty much how all content is going to be consumed by anyone that's currently under 50.
 
I have the new Apple TV and the video quality on the Watch ESPN app is fantastic. We have Comcast up to 75 Mbps.
 
People should figure it out because in ten years that's pretty much how all content is going to be consumed by anyone that's currently under 50.

Yeah I'd be interested in what the demographics are for people that hate ESPN3 vs those who like it.

Sort of feels like when newspapers went digital and the older folks just hated it because it was unfamiliar.

Regional games on ROOT are awful for exposure, and that's before considering the fact that Pitt used to have games just flat out not shown anywhere. I watch college hoops games on ESPN3 all the time (meaning non-Pitt games, too). It's an awesome product.

I'll take some random, brief choppiness that might happen once every few games over missing the first 8 minutes of game time because the previous game ran over, or just the general technical difficulties that occur with television.
 
Maybe but I have the fastest internet that Comcast offers residential customers which I would say is a pretty common form of internet offering for the average streamer. The stream isnt that bad but there is enough choppiness that it makes the cable picture look awesome in comparison. FWIW, you cant notice the choppiness when streaming non-sports. I guess there is too much movement in sports broadcasts to make it noticeable.

What internet do you have?

Maybe get a better router. The router we got with Comcast was awful, we went and bought a new one and it's made a world of difference in terms of its ability to handle streaming, downloads, use of multiple platforms, etc..

Most of the time the internet you have is more than enough but it might just be run through an inferior product that can't handle all of it adequately. I would have never thought the router thing would work, but it did.
 
Yeah I'd be interested in what the demographics are for people that hate ESPN3 vs those who like it.

It is interesting since some people love to discuss "visibility" with recruits. I think the average kid in high school is probably much more likely to be watching ESPN3 on a phone than sitting in front of a TV watching ESPNU (or ESPN News for football lol).
 
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