Does anyone remember someone posting what we thought of Ole Miss before Freeze was even hired?

[mdpitt]

It was such a random post on this board and it was from an Ole Miss person. They were just basically looking for people's opinion of the University. At the time it seemed weird, then Hugh Freeze was hired as a nobody, then they became very good quickly.

As soon as they started winning, I thought of that post sure seemed like more than a coincidence.

Anyways, the responses were Rednecks, SEC, Good Ole Boys, Dukes of Hazzard type of stuff.

His rise and fall are quite dramatic.

 

[Rockyhound]

I remember the weeks leading up to the Birmingham Bowl (take 3) their fans were on this board in droves. I was extremely impressed with the civility they showed. Especially for an online forum. I'd love it if we scheduled a home and home with them.

 

[ratking17]

I recall that as well before the bowl game

 

[Nova 66-64]

I remember the weeks leading up to the Birmingham Bowl (take 3) their fans were on this board in droves. I was extremely impressed with the civility they showed. Especially for an online forum. I'd love it if we scheduled a home and home with them.

I would love a home and home. TheOle Miss fans are great.

I went to Oxford to watch Ole Miss play Arkansas in the overtime game a few years ago. The Grove and downtown Oxfords is a special place. Hoty Tody!

 

[Las Panteras]

Alabama may redshirt "All-Americas"....

but Ole Miss redshirts "Miss Americas"

 

[Panther Holla]

Hello, Ole Mess.

I wonder: In the SEC is there a "caste" system of sorts among the football powers? To me, you'd have Bama, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, LSU and Tennessee in the Old Guard. The "usual suspects" to win the conference, at least before Saban landed in Tuscaloosa.

At the opposite end of the spectrum, there is Vandy, which never in a million years is going to be a threat to win its division. So in the middle there is that gaggle of schools -- some who threaten the status quo now and then (MSU. Ole Miss, A&M, Arkansas) and those who "know their place" as also-rans (UK, South Carolina, Mizzou).

My question: If one of the Unwashed suddenly rises up to threaten the establishment, might not the Old Guard deploy resources, as they see fit, to investigate the goings-on at said usurper campus? And the more brazen the challenger, the more resolve of the Alabamas to cut the whippersnapper at the knees?

Just wonderin'.

 

[Pittx9]

I remember the weeks leading up to the Birmingham Bowl (take 3) their fans were on this board in droves. I was extremely impressed with the civility they showed. Especially for an online forum. I'd love it if we scheduled a home and home with them.

I'd like a home and home with any schools like ole miss, Georgia, South Carolina, Florida, etc.

 

[FireballZ]

I'd like a home and home with any schools like ole miss, Georgia, South Carolina, Florida, etc.

Tennessee?

 

[Pittx9]

Tennessee?

For sure, that would be cool too. Any of the southern schools would probably be a cool road trip, and then a solid opponent at Heinz as well. Hell even as good as Alabama is it would be cool to see pitt down in t-town, or even lsu's Death Valley.

 

[PittMan 72]

Yep. And I'll say this: Pitt fans that enjoy road trips should take the opportunity to go to UT when the Panthers play there in a few years.

I was there to see Pitt beat JM and his Vols a "few" years ago, 30 - 6. A game at Neyland Stadium is quite a spectacle. I was at Clemson last year and it rivals that. And the noise inside was louder than Death Valley, IMO.

 

[FireballZ]

For sure, that would be cool too. Any of the southern schools would probably be a cool road trip, and then a solid opponent at Heinz as well. Hell even as good as Alabama is it would be cool to see pitt down in t-town, or even lsu's Death Valley.

Was just kidding, bud. Pitt does have a home and home setup with Tennessee already for 2021 and 2022.

 

[SatelliteTailGate]

Hello, Ole Mess.

I wonder: In the SEC is there a "caste" system of sorts among the football powers? To me, you'd have Bama, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, LSU and Tennessee in the Old Guard. The "usual suspects" to win the conference, at least before Saban landed in Tuscaloosa.

At the opposite end of the spectrum, there is Vandy, which never in a million years is going to be a threat to win its division. So in the middle there is that gaggle of schools -- some who threaten the status quo now and then (MSU. Ole Miss, A&M, Arkansas) and those who "know their place" as also-rans (UK, South Carolina, Mizzou).

My question: If one of the Unwashed suddenly rises up to threaten the establishment, might not the Old Guard deploy resources, as they see fit, to investigate the goings-on at said usurper campus? And the more brazen the challenger, the more resolve of the Alabamas to cut the whippersnapper at the knees?

Just wonderin'.

Oswald was the lone shooter!

 

[Jpripper88]

Hello, Ole Mess.

I wonder: In the SEC is there a "caste" system of sorts among the football powers? To me, you'd have Bama, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, LSU and Tennessee in the Old Guard. The "usual suspects" to win the conference, at least before Saban landed in Tuscaloosa.

At the opposite end of the spectrum, there is Vandy, which never in a million years is going to be a threat to win its division. So in the middle there is that gaggle of schools -- some who threaten the status quo now and then (MSU. Ole Miss, A&M, Arkansas) and those who "know their place" as also-rans (UK, South Carolina, Mizzou).

My question: If one of the Unwashed suddenly rises up to threaten the establishment, might not the Old Guard deploy resources, as they see fit, to investigate the goings-on at said usurper campus? And the more brazen the challenger, the more resolve of the Alabamas to cut the whippersnapper at the knees?

Just wonderin'.

You know, except, the holier than thou coach who just got caught calling hookers literally asked people to turn in any evidence people had against Ole Miss football, so, I don't think this is some conspiracy to push Ole Miss back down. The guy is a good football coach, but clearly a dirty, pompous cheat.

 

[Panther Holla]

You know, except, the holier than thou coach who just got caught calling hookers literally asked people to turn in any evidence people had against Ole Miss football, so, I don't think this is some conspiracy to push Ole Miss back down. The guy is a good football coach, but clearly a dirty, pompous cheat.

Clearly I have watched too many episodes of Columbo.

 

[Panther Holla]

Oswald was the lone shooter!

So was Scottie Reynolds.

 

[Revenge Of The Noise]

Hello, Ole Mess.

I wonder: In the SEC is there a "caste" system of sorts among the football powers? To me, you'd have Bama, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, LSU and Tennessee in the Old Guard. The "usual suspects" to win the conference, at least before Saban landed in Tuscaloosa.

At the opposite end of the spectrum, there is Vandy, which never in a million years is going to be a threat to win its division. So in the middle there is that gaggle of schools -- some who threaten the status quo now and then (MSU. Ole Miss, A&M, Arkansas) and those who "know their place" as also-rans (UK, South Carolina, Mizzou).

My question: If one of the Unwashed suddenly rises up to threaten the establishment, might not the Old Guard deploy resources, as they see fit, to investigate the goings-on at said usurper campus? And the more brazen the challenger, the more resolve of the Alabamas to cut the whippersnapper at the knees?

Just wonderin'.

You possibly are just intending to joke. But don't discount the possibility. It also seemed a little more than coincidence that SMU got nailed just as it was challenging Texas, A&M, and Oklahoma's hierarchy of power.

No question they were cheating. But no worse than those others.

Of course, Paterno was publicly trying to spur on the NCAA to clamp down on Pitt about that time. He may well have been successful because Pitt abruptly began self sanctioning and never really has stopped.

Lots of paranoia among our leadership, and it never has abated, it seems. Our admin is still petrified of success. But perhaps there was a germ of truth back then ... it happened to SMU after Texas, OK et al felt threatened, so perhaps the ire of the northern and eastern powers (PSU, maybe even ND) would have similarly gotten us slammed by the NCAA too (as Paterno was urging so blatantly) ... if we hadn't done it to ourselves.

 

[USN_Panther]

Hello, Ole Mess.

I wonder: In the SEC is there a "caste" system of sorts among the football powers? To me, you'd have Bama, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, LSU and Tennessee in the Old Guard. The "usual suspects" to win the conference, at least before Saban landed in Tuscaloosa.

At the opposite end of the spectrum, there is Vandy, which never in a million years is going to be a threat to win its division. So in the middle there is that gaggle of schools -- some who threaten the status quo now and then (MSU. Ole Miss, A&M, Arkansas) and those who "know their place" as also-rans (UK, South Carolina, Mizzou).

My question: If one of the Unwashed suddenly rises up to threaten the establishment, might not the Old Guard deploy resources, as they see fit, to investigate the goings-on at said usurper campus? And the more brazen the challenger, the more resolve of the Alabamas to cut the whippersnapper at the knees?

Just wonderin'.

I was thinking that Saban was behind this as Ole Miss beat Alabama twice in 4 years.

 

[Pittx9]

Was just kidding, bud. Pitt does have a home and home setup with Tennessee already for 2021 and 2022.

Lol, other than psu and wvu I have a hard time remembering what's going on with the schedule that far in advance. Hope to at least see Heinz field full for that game and Knoxville should be a good road game to see.

 

[Revenge Of The Noise]

Lol, other than psu and wvu I have a hard time remembering what's going on with the schedule that far in advance. Hope to at least see Heinz field full for that game and Knoxville should be a good road game to see.

How dare you. Didn't you see the adjoining thread? We'll have New Pitt Stadium up rocking well in advance of that game.

 

[Pittx9]

How dare you. Didn't you see the adjoining thread? We'll have New Pitt Stadium up rocking well in advance of that game.

Haha. EDIT: I hope to see (insert name of pitt football's home stadium in 2022) full for that game.

 

[Panther Parrothead]

It was such a random post on this board and it was from an Ole Miss person. They were just basically looking for people's opinion of the University. At the time it seemed weird, then Hugh Freeze was hired as a nobody, then they became very good quickly.

As soon as they started winning, I thought of that post sure seemed like more than a coincidence.

Anyways, the responses were Rednecks, SEC, Good Ole Boys, Dukes of Hazzard type of stuff.

His rise and fall are quite dramatic.

I remember when they suddenly started having all of those great recruiting classes, and there were several threads on the other board saying things to the effect that they had to be cheating - otherwise, why would great athletes go there instead of other SEC schools?

 

[TD_6082]

Yep. And I'll say this: Pitt fans that enjoy road trips should take the opportunity to go to UT when the Panthers play there in a few years.

I was there to see Pitt beat JM and his Vols a "few" years ago, 30 - 6. A game at Neyland Stadium is quite a spectacle. I was at Clemson last year and it rivals that. And the noise inside was louder than Death Valley, IMO.

Yep. 1980. I was at that game too. Pitt won there again 13-3 in what I believe was the opening game of 1983. 2 games in K-town and a Willie Gault kickoff return was the only way the Vols found the end-zone.

Neyland has become a somewhat boring over the last few years imo.

 

[TD_6082]

I remember when they suddenly started having all of those great recruiting classes, and there were several threads on the other board saying things to the effect that they had to be cheating - otherwise, why would great athletes go there instead of other SEC schools?

Its not like the other SEC schools operate on the up and up. If you want to win, you have to get your hands dirty.

 

[Panther Parrothead]

Its not like the other SEC schools operate on the up and up. If you want to win, you have to get your hands dirty.

Yep. But you gotta admit that there has been a "class system" within the SEC: there's Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, LSU, Tennessee -- and then there's the rest. Arguably, sometimes a Missouri or newcomer Texas A&M might occasionally stick their nose into the "Upper Tier" of the SEC, but overall it's been tough for the Vandy's, Kentucky's, and the rest to breathe the glorified air of the SEC's upper echelon.

When a school such as Ole Miss starts getting the 4-5 star recruits, the immediately reaction is that "they must be cheating"...and "How dare they - only the Upper Tier teams are worthy of getting the Blue Chips."

I don't think that it's coincidence that Ole Miss got busted, while the other SEC cheaters continue to do what they've been doing without incident. Their Upper Echelon is kinda like a snooty, private country club: they take pride in controlling who gets in. A case can be made that Freeze got too careless/stupid, but I don't think that a good investigator would have to dig too deep to find behavior that is just as sinful among the rest of the SEC teams.

 

[Rockyhound]

Tennessee?

Yeah I'm really looking forward to that trip. I'd love a home and home with just about any SEC team.

 

[recruitsreadtheseboards]

Hello, Ole Mess.

I wonder: In the SEC is there a "caste" system of sorts among the football powers? To me, you'd have Bama, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, LSU and Tennessee in the Old Guard. The "usual suspects" to win the conference, at least before Saban landed in Tuscaloosa.

At the opposite end of the spectrum, there is Vandy, which never in a million years is going to be a threat to win its division. So in the middle there is that gaggle of schools -- some who threaten the status quo now and then (MSU. Ole Miss, A&M, Arkansas) and those who "know their place" as also-rans (UK, South Carolina, Mizzou).

My question: If one of the Unwashed suddenly rises up to threaten the establishment, might not the Old Guard deploy resources, as they see fit, to investigate the goings-on at said usurper campus? And the more brazen the challenger, the more resolve of the Alabamas to cut the whippersnapper at the knees?

Just wonderin'.

Sounds a bit like DC.

 

[recruitsreadtheseboards]

Tennessee?

Shame of this....under Sherrill, didn't we play Florida and Tennessee at their places, with no return trips? We were so badass then, play anyone, anywhere.

I give WVU credit, they got Home and Homes with Auburn and LSU.

 

[pittdan77]

My question: If one of the Unwashed suddenly rises up to threaten the establishment, might not the Old Guard deploy resources, as they see fit, to investigate the goings-on at said usurper campus? And the more brazen the challenger, the more resolve of the Alabamas to cut the whippersnapper at the knees?

I think things like this happen more often than many people realize. Remember, coaching is a pretty tight fraternity and a lot of these guys bounce around as they try to move up.

 

[joefromlancaster]

Trip to Knoxville was great still remember singing "We were dancing to the Tennessee
Waltz" with the Pittsburgh version of it! Stayed in Gatlinburgh and had a great time.

 

[michnittlion]

I actually remember this --- it was in 2007, a poster from the Ole Miss "Hotty Toddy Blog" visited a number of Rivals boards and asked their opinions on Ole Miss.

http://hottytoddyblog.blogspot.com/2007/07/

Some of my responses (posted on BWI, this was asked on the Penn State board) are included in that link. If you haven't seen Orgeron's Hummer commercial, I've linked it below. Hilarious.

(1) What is the first thing that comes to mind when you think of Ole Miss?

Colonel Reb, the red, white, and blue uniforms that I really like, Coach O's Hummer commercial.--michnittlion

(2) What are your feelings about Ole Miss?

I have seen two Ole Miss games live ... the inauguaral Motor City Bowl back at the Silverdome vs. Marshall and one in Oxford vs Memphis in 2002. Not a good impression. Waving the confederate flag and actually celebrating that made your fans seem to be stuck in the 19th Century. For all the talk about states rights and fighting Yankee opression, the old CSA sought to protect a dehuamnizing racist culture and people are right for being resentful at its celebration.--michnittlion

(3) Would you like to play us in football or basketball in the future?

Sure, no offense, but if we play an SEC team home-and-home, I'd prefer a strong opponent. Not that Ole Miss couldn't become one, but they aren't there now. On a side note, it's very tough for Ole Miss to rise to the very top tier of the SEC, but Cutliffe really had them close. Firing him one year after Ole Miss was 1 play (against LSU) away from going 8-0(!!!) in the SEC is arguably the dumbest fire a school has made in recent history.--michnittlion

(5) Have you ever visited Oxford on game day? If yes, what was your experience? If no, what have you heard about our gameday experience?

See (2). Grove and the player walk are great traditions. Dressing up for a football game seems bizarre. Mississippi as a whole: just a completely different world from what I've known growing up and living in the North, and one I'm not very comfortable with.--michnittlion

 

[Las Panteras]

Lets see........Misissippi.......corruption.........lawsuits......investigations........seedy characters.....

Where is John Grisham? This story practically writes itself.