Wtf is happening with this kid…? He looks like a giant preschooler this season as opposed to last season where he looked all conference and a bully down low, I am appalled
Does John Hugley just suck now..?
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I don’t know if he sucks now, but I do know that he sucks right now. And I don’t think we have the luxury to wait for him to stop sucking.
He was never as good people here thought. His scoring average was born out of opportunities. He was a solid brute force player when in shape on offense who couldn’t pick and roll effectively. He was an average rebounder (If you’re a big playing 30 mins 5 rebounds should fall into your hands by chance). And he’s always been a bad defender.
He got worse at all 3 aspects
The unfortunate drop off has been unreal. I hope big John can correct this soon.
Maybe get a haircut and keep the hair out of your eyes might be a start
He looks like Joe Uchebo down low now. Even has the torqued socks like him too.
I still think he could have turned into more than that. But I also said that he’d have to put in a lot of work to do it - maybe like Sam Young did. I have no idea if it’s injury, lack of desire/discipline, or whatever, but he showed some signs he could develop.
Now to be clear I never had him anywhere near an SMF level. But he could have been an effective contributor. I guess he still could be next year, but seems less likely this year.
His head isn’t within a quarter mile of the quart.
I’m doubling down on my he needs to get a hair cut and trim his beard .
His laziness in his personal life is manifesting on the court
How do you know what his personal life is?? Who knew that getting a hair cut could solve everyone's personal problems! Maybe you should take out a patent on that solution.
He needs a change
He’s a fat lazy slob out there who doesn’t seem remotely interested in playing
And what change would you suggest? Dr Ruth.
He's a worse rim defender, lateral defender, pick and roll dive guy, screener, and rebounder than Federico. Really the only thing he does better is shoot and post, but suddenly we actually have shooters this year. He's gotten worse, Federico is better than we expected, and the offense doesn't need him to score anymore.
His hair? Lol. You guys are great. Or terrible.
His half a## attempts at a ball screen drive me nuts. Pure laziness.
See my prior post
Changing his physical self to change his mental approach
I do the same thing
Yeah, come off a knee injury, play a major college sport, and then have old dudes call you lazy.
Little different than you hurting your finger and trying to get back to message board posting.
I’m willing to give him time to get in game shape.
The problem isn't that he's not in shape. Everyone expected that. The problem is, for instance, in the Vandy game when he fumbled the ball out past the three point line and instead of just taking a step or two and picking it up he just stood there and pointed at the ball and told his teammate to come get it. And of course instead the Vandy defender picked it up and went off on a fast break.
It's not the lack of conditioning, it's the lack of "give a ****" that is most disturbing to people.
He’s not been crippled -
He is a walking turnover who is hurting the team every time he plays
He looks like he’s in operation shutdown. Like he’d rather be doing anything else. If these games were tryouts he’d be cut.
I was looking at Big Johns game by game stats from last year. 32 points, 17 boards vs Syracuse for example. Obviously, he needs to want to get back and then above that level. It is going to be a gradual process. It may not be till next year. He needs to want it badly. I have no idea how hard he works or how motivated he is. If he works his tail off and is highly motivated, he could be a really good player. He obviously has the potential to be light years better than he is showing now. I don't get how people can post stuff like "he sucks". seriously. I hate to see that, but that is just me. people are free to post what they want.
Hugley was never a play above the rim guy. Nevertheless, he appears to not be getting off the floor at all for boards or shots. I wonder if he isn't jumping because of being afraid to reinjure the knee? It is certainly a possibility, IMHO
Look guys. John Hugley is not in great shape and is playing poorly. We don't need to get into this after every game. We all can see his struggles. Us beating the dead horse is good for nobody, especially John. I hope he gets in better shape and improves his game. It disgusts me to see everybody piling on.
or, come off a knee injury, do the due diligence of rehab required for an athlete on a 6 figure scholarship participating in a major college sport like the 98% of other said athletes who do so... then old dudes will not call you lazy.
Do folks understand we have other players with knee injuries without being terribly both out of shape and seemingly uninterested in trying ?
Stop making excuses for Hugley fanboys
Stop making excuses for Hugley fanboys
While excuses should not be made for John Hugley, I don't think constantly berating him is the way to go either.
Ok then. Why can “we all” see from a distance yet the guy closest inserts him into the lineup only to watch him go back to the bench with a very negative plus/minus run. I’m not personally attacking your post but this guy needs to be in a mop up role or a fouled-out big man situation. JDG has shown a good IQ and should get the minutes even tho his body needs some maturing.
He played only 11 minutes against Sacred Heart. I think he'll play the minimum going forward.
He needs Benched until his head is right
That’s not berating
He’s a total net negative player now
way to go where? This is a fan message board, where are we to go? Kind of hard to discuss his collapse without mentioning (ie. berating) the self imposed cause of it.
I agree his minutes need largely reduced until he's in shape and effective in the minutes he does get. We lost the Vandy game because he played more than 20 minutes. I'm aware. But name calling should be off limits.
You called him a "fat lazy slob", in your earlier post! That's not berating??
I had a stress fracture on my tibia plateau and had no weight bearing for 6 weeks then 3 months of rehab to rebuild the strength on my leg .
Somehow I didn’t balloon up
