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Early line for Pitt - Syracuse...

Thought it would be more like -10.
These two teams have a history of playing low-scoring, close games. It could be different this year, but the line is probably what it should be at Syracuse. If Pitt continues to improve offensively, they could have a big day. Also, the road has been good to them, so it will just be another game, hopefully one on the W side. This is one Pitt can ill afford to lose with the difficult schedule coming up.
 
cuse isn't good..
Dangerous road game for Pitt. Make no mistake about that. Every team in our ACC schedule is capable of beating us on any given Saturday. We are no juggernaut. Not many easy wins for this team, but wins nonetheless. We aren't going to blow anyone out, we're not an explosive offensive team.. We just have to keep doing what we've been doing-protect the ball,be sound with our D and special teams, win the 4th quarter and make the necessary plays at the end to get the win.
 
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We've lost one of the last ten meetings. Lost by one point in 2012 and won by one in 2013. Otherwise, not so close. 45-14 comes to mind in 2010 at Syracuse.
 
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These two teams have a history of playing low-scoring, close games.

Which has absolutely no bearing what so ever on what the point spread is for the game this Saturday even if it were true.

Which it isn't, as seven of the last ten games between the two have been double digit wins for someone.
 
In a nutshell, Pitt usually plays everyone close - win or lose. I don't expect that to change this week.

Yeah there's really not much firepower on offense. The WR's are so underwhelming that the 260 lb TE's are bigger threats despite Boyd being double and triple teamed. And without Conner, the backs aren't a consistent threat either. Every game is going to be close from here on out.
 
I wish the acc would drop them as a crossover rival. I hate playing them.

Agree. I don't see them ever getting it together either enough to become a good program again. Their location away from football hotbeds kills them and they absolutely suck away form the Dome.
Would the annual crossover rivalry concept even exist if it wasn't for FSU-Miami?
 
I wish the acc would drop them as a crossover rival. I hate playing them.
Like it or not, Syracuse is the closest thing that Pitt has to a natural rival in the ACC. If Notre Dame would become a full time member, that could justify a change. But until that happens, Cuse is it.
 
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Going into the Hospital this morning for some major surgery so will not be postings most of the week, but the Line is citing what I have been portending, This Pitt Team can and is good, due to superb coaching, but only from play to play and game to game, and Cuse is no pushover for Pitt there is no Team on the schedule that is or was a pushover for Pitt.

YSU & Akron had excellent coaches, Pitt did not beat UVA, VT, and GT by much, but Pitt won and played better, as well as out coached them, no doubt about it? Iowa was a close loss but a loss just the same.

Cuse can upset Pitt, and UNC, Duke, and ND can out flat beat Pitt. Even ULou and Miami will not be easy and have good coaches and many higher recruits.


However, Pitt can win every game too, even ND?

Wishing you all the best and Pitt too!
 
Would be -10 at home, home team almost automatically gets 3 extra points. Pitt should definitely cover the spread, although they can't just overlook Syracuse completely. They did give LSU a run for their money earlier this year.
 
Going into the Hospital this morning for some major surgery so will not be postings most of the week, but the Line is citing what I have been portending, This Pitt Team can and is good, due to superb coaching, but only from play to play and game to game, and Cuse is no pushover for Pitt there is no Team on the schedule that is or was a pushover for Pitt.

YSU & Akron had excellent coaches, Pitt did not beat UVA, VT, and GT by much, but Pitt won and played better, as well as out coached them, no doubt about it? Iowa was a close loss but a loss just the same.

Cuse can upset Pitt, and UNC, Duke, and ND can out flat beat Pitt. Even ULou and Miami will not be easy and have good coaches and many higher recruits.


However, Pitt can win every game too, even ND?

Wishing you all the best and Pitt too!

Captain, only the best !! Speedy recovery !!
 
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Watched Syr/UVa, the truth is that Pitt is not much more talented that Syr and UVa. Syr isnt that bad. Its going to be very close I think, coming down to the last possession.

Pitt 24
Syr 21

This Pitt team isn't particularly talented. They are doing enough to win games against other teams that are not particularly talented. Over the past half decade, pitt has found ways to lose to teams that are not particularly talented, so I'm very happy that pitt is winning these games.

With all that in mind, Pitt wins but I think a spread of 6.5 is reasonable.
 
Like it or not, Syracuse is the closest thing that Pitt has to a natural rival in the ACC. If Notre Dame would become a full time member, that could justify a change. But until that happens, Cuse is it.
Right on--they've been playing almost every year since 1959 or so---some people just don't get it--we should always play them---and it won't be easy at the dome---I'll be scooting up I81 to see it
 
Would the annual crossover rivalry concept even exist if it wasn't for FSU-Miami?
Yes it would. It protects many ACC historical rivalries / annually occuring games:

UNC - NC State
GT - Clemson
Wake - Duke
FSU - Miami
Maryland - Virginia before Maryland left (not so much a rivalry as just an annual meeting before expansion of two schools in close proximity to each other).

There are also a ton of existing annual rivalries (UNC-Duke, UNC-UVA* UVA-VT, Clemson-NC State, GT-Duke) that are protected by divisional setup. Tons of existing rivalries in the ACC, which makes it nearly impossible for any divisional re-alignment.


*North Carolina - Virginia is the South's Oldest Rivalry, even older than Auburn-Georgia, which calls itself the Deep South's Oldest Rivalry.
 
In a nutshell, Pitt usually plays everyone close - win or lose. I don't expect that to change this week.

With the O struggling to find consistency it seems like we still make just enough mistakes on D to keep teams in the game. The systems are still new and guys still are out of position on occasion but when the games been on the line they've come up big the last 3 weeks. I truly believe that if the O ever gets rolling this D is going to be really dangerous(in a good way) in this scheme when they have the luxury of pinning their ears back and getting after it without having to worry about one score or one breakdown killing them.
 
Yes it would. It protects many ACC historical rivalries / annually occuring games:

UNC - NC State
GT - Clemson
Wake - Duke
FSU - Miami
Maryland - Virginia before Maryland left (not so much a rivalry as just an annual meeting before expansion of two schools in close proximity to each other).

There are also a ton of existing annual rivalries (UNC-Duke, UNC-UVA* UVA-VT, Clemson-NC State, GT-Duke) that are protected by divisional setup. Tons of existing rivalries in the ACC, which makes it nearly impossible for any divisional re-alignment.


*North Carolina - Virginia is the South's Oldest Rivalry, even older than Auburn-Georgia, which calls itself the Deep South's Oldest Rivalry.

The only protected rivalries should be:

FSU/Miami
GT/Clemson
UNC/NCSU.

The Big Ten only protects 1 (IU/Purdue). The Pac 12 protects 4 (USC/Stan, USC/Cal, UCLA/Stan, UCLA/Cal). There's no reason we should be protecting 7.
 
The Dome is not an easy place to play. Ever. Pitt will need to be laser focused on the task at hand. Need to take care of this business.
 
The only protected rivalries should be:

FSU/Miami
GT/Clemson
UNC/NCSU.

The Big Ten only protects 1 (IU/Purdue). The Pac 12 protects 4 (USC/Stan, USC/Cal, UCLA/Stan, UCLA/Cal). There's no reason we should be protecting 7.
Well for starters, I don't much care what the Boring B1G does or doesn't do. But that's incorrect that they only protect 1. They protect a bunch....by putting every good team in that one division. They protect tOSU - Michigan and Michigan - Mich State by putting them in the East or Legends or whatever it is these days, along with Penn State and the rest. There's also Minnesota - Wisconsin and Minnesota - Iowa (trophy games) that are protected because they're in the West.

This will be a moot point soon as the ACC, co-sponsored by the Big 12 has petitioned the NCAA to get rid of the rule requiring the existence of divisions if you want to have a conference game. Once the NCAA drops that requirement, the ACC will get rid of divisions and go to the 3+5 setup and everyone will be happy as you will play every conference team a minimum of twice every four years, including at home once every four years at minimum.
 
Actually it would be 13 if the game were here. 10 if the game was at a neutral site.
Even on the road, I still think we should be able to win by about 2 TDs. In years past, I would want nothing to do with this game as the coaching staff would have a terrible gameplan and not have the ream ready mentally at all. I don't think Narduzzi could ever allow a team to come out flat. The guy has too much enthusiasm and every around picks up on it.
 
Going into the Hospital this morning for some major surgery so will not be postings most of the week, but the Line is citing what I have been portending, This Pitt Team can and is good, due to superb coaching, but only from play to play and game to game, and Cuse is no pushover for Pitt there is no Team on the schedule that is or was a pushover for Pitt.

YSU & Akron had excellent coaches, Pitt did not beat UVA, VT, and GT by much, but Pitt won and played better, as well as out coached them, no doubt about it? Iowa was a close loss but a loss just the same.

Cuse can upset Pitt, and UNC, Duke, and ND can out flat beat Pitt. Even ULou and Miami will not be easy and have good coaches and many higher recruits.


However, Pitt can win every game too, even ND?

Wishing you all the best and Pitt too!
CapitanSidneyReilly...Sorry to hear that you need major surgery. By now, I'm sure that it has all ready occurred and I hope that it all went well. Look forward to seeing your thoughts on the website.
 
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