Safe and effective. You need to take it to protect others but it doesn’t protect you. So many of you retards fell for that and the masks work bullsjitLOL! The Covid Vax.
Back it up with stats pittbb80. Oh wait, you cant. Meatloaf would do anything for love, except get vaxed. And he died of covid. So many Darwin Award winners who didn't mask or get the dreaded vax. Yes, the vax had a slight increase in some for cardiomyopathy, but the risk was greater for those who got covid and who were not vaccinated.Safe and effective. You need to take it to protect others but it doesn’t protect you. So many of you retards fell for that and the masks work bullsjit
I provided receipts on the jab.Back it up with stats pittbb80. Oh wait, you cant. Meatloaf would do anything for love, except get vaxed. And he died of covid. So many Darwin Award winners who didn't mask or get the dreaded vax. Yes, the vax had a slight increase in some for cardiomyopathy, but the risk was greater for those who got covid and who were not vaccinated.
I strongly suggest you dont have any of your providers wear masks for any medical procedures if you don’t think masks work. Covid was very rarely fatal for kids. That was known. The whole child vaccine campaign and mask campaign in school was to prevent spread to elderly caretakers. A lot of kids had grandparents die from covid. A lot of kids have single parent/caretakers. If the right thinks oppression is inconvenience of wearing a mask to help others, then you all are a weak, unempathic bunch.
If you were an old, fat, drug riddled diabetic with heart issues, you should probably take the jab when the alpha variant first appeared. That made sense.Back it up with stats pittbb80. Oh wait, you cant. Meatloaf would do anything for love, except get vaxed. And he died of covid. So many win Award winners who didn't mask or get the dreaded vax. Yes, the vax had a slight increase in some for cardiomyopathy, but the risk was greater for those who got covid and who were not vaccinated.
I strongly suggest you dont have any of your providers wear masks for any medical procedures if you don’t think masks work. Covid was very rarely fatal for kids. That was known. The whole child vaccine campaign and mask campaign in school was to prevent spread to elderly caretakers. A lot of kids had grandparents die from covid. A lot of kids have single parent/caretakers. If the right thinks oppression is inconvenience of wearing a mask to help others, then you all are a weak, unempathic bunch.
Holy crap 80. How long did it take for you to assemble this zip file? 😄receipts on masks. But common sense tells you that even and N95 mask that’s designed to filter out particles greater than .3 microns wouldn’t be very effective on a virus particle
Less than .09 microns let alone the other face diapers that were being prompted
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Leaked Emails Reveal How the New York Times Sought to Discredit Scientific Review That Found No Evidence Masks Work – The Daily Sceptic
Leaked emails have revealed how the New York Times sought to discredit a top scientific review that found no evidence masks work because it came to the 'wrong' conclusion.dailysceptic.org
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Prestigious science journals provide kill shot to bogus COVID narrative * WorldNetDaily * by WND Staff
It seems that those COVID mandate skeptics, those who raised science-based questions about masks, the experimental shots and their side effects and injuries and more – and were attacked, censored, vilified and abused, actually were onto something.www.wnd.com
Except there were many scientists who were world experts on mRNA vaccines that indicted the vaccine was not safe and effective before it had emergency use authorization. We were expected to believe that a technology that had failed the animal testing phase for at least a decade was suddenly perfected in less than a year.Let's be honest here. When COVID hit, no one really knew what would work. It was the first time we seen something like this since 1917. And since vaccines essentially eradicated things like Polio, Measles, TB, etc...it was natural to think it would COVID. Hell, when COVID came out, I was like the boy in the bubble, I was afraid to go out and even receive packages. Not so much for my health, but I take care of my mom and didn't want to bring it into her house.
When it hit, it hit hard. The first breakouts the virus was super strong it seemed and overwhelmed health care systems. No offense 80, I know your stance on this but those first 6 months of COVID, its revisionist history to think that distancing, masks and vaccines weren't going to work. We didn't know. Even Tucker Carlson didn't know. I got vaccinated. Thrice. Again, mostly to protect my mom.
Two things happened.......well three.
1) The virus kept on replicating itself, albeit less potent, maybe more virulent, but it basically became a seasonal flu. Now that kills some people, but we don't mask, shut down and distance because of the flu.
2) It was realized that the vaccines didn't prevent either one from getting it or spreading it. So to continue to have mandates and firing people for not getting vaxxed, well that was not just wrong, but immoral.
3) Masks became stupid. OK? Ridiculous virtual signaling that "I am not a Republican", the Left's version of the red MAGA hat.
I still believe in vaccines, I think we are setting dangerous precedents that could reinvigorate diseases like measles.
Some add one here. I don't blame anyone for getting the shot early on. Hell, I don't really down anyone for getting it ever. Doctors advised us to get jabbed. No shame and I've no doubt the jabbed did help many who took it.Let's be honest here. When COVID hit, no one really knew what would work. It was the first time we seen something like this since 1917. And since vaccines essentially eradicated things like Polio, Measles, TB, etc...it was natural to think it would COVID. Hell, when COVID came out, I was like the boy in the bubble, I was afraid to go out and even receive packages. Not so much for my health, but I take care of my mom and didn't want to bring it into her house.
When it hit, it hit hard. The first breakouts the virus was super strong it seemed and overwhelmed health care systems. No offense 80, I know your stance on this but those first 6 months of COVID, its revisionist history to think that distancing, masks and vaccines weren't going to work. We didn't know. Even Tucker Carlson didn't know. I got vaccinated. Thrice. Again, mostly to protect my mom.
Two things happened.......well three.
1) The virus kept on replicating itself, albeit less potent, maybe more virulent, but it basically became a seasonal flu. Now that kills some people, but we don't mask, shut down and distance because of the flu.
2) It was realized that the vaccines didn't prevent either one from getting it or spreading it. So to continue to have mandates and firing people for not getting vaxxed, well that was not just wrong, but immoral.
3) Masks became stupid. OK? Ridiculous virtual signaling that "I am not a Republican", the Left's version of the red MAGA hat.
I still believe in vaccines, I think we are setting dangerous precedents that could reinvigorate diseases like measles.
Some add one here. I don't blame anyone for getting the shot early on. Hell, I don't really down anyone for getting it ever. Doctors advised us to get jabbed. No shame and I've no doubt the jabbed did help many who took it.
Problem no. 1: mRNA vaccines are not traditional vaccines in that a weakened or dead virus is administered which triggers an immune response and there after your body immediately can recognize and attack the virus later, before the symptoms can harm you.
COVID19 mRNA shots injected genetic material into you, not of the SARSCoV2 virus, but rather synthetic mRNA that enters your cells and causes them to manufacture the S protein that is similar to the Spike protein on the virus. The Spike is what attaches to cell sites and inserts genetic information into cells
So, the plan is to manufacture S proteins and trigger your immune system to recognize and attack them, basically attacking the virus. Kinda similar to how vaccines work, but not really.
If your immune cell will now attack the virus Spikes, why wouldn't it also attack your body's cells that are producing Spike proteins? Are Spike proteins destructive in their own right? How long does the vaccine continue making Spike proteins?
The EUA eliminated the requirement for traditional safety testing. We were all guinea pigs. They lied and said "safe and effective" even though the early studies show miscarriages and other red flags.
If the mRNA goes to the uterus, miscarriage? To the nerves in your face - Bells Palsy? To the heart muscle - Cardiomyopathy?
But there's always risk/reward decisions with meds and vaccines, right? Except COVID virtually never kills kids and they told us to vax our kids. All risk and little if any reward.
Also, the vax won't work if your body gobbles up the mRNA when it hits your bloodstream. So, to counter this, the mRNA was camouflaged in lipid nanoparticles. I think this is where some got the idea that nanobots were in the jab. 🙄. Anyhow these fat particles enabled the mRNA to cross the blood brain barrier. What could go wrong here, amIright?
And all this info was available right away. Sadly, researchers tried to warn us but they we deplatformed.
So, when I hear you say you still believe in vaccines, I ask if you still believe in gene based therapy too. Measles and polio vaccines didn't use mRNA to make you make the virus.
FWIW, Im going off memory from 3 years ago. I may be off on certain things, but I think this is basically accurate regarding the Pfizer type shots. I think I can dig up links to the initial research and EUA trials if you want it. Should still be out there.
Man, thank God you didn't get respiratory problems. Back then you'd have been shipped to a ward and condemned to Remdesivir hell until your kidneys failed.Really interesting info, BPKY. Great questions.
I can only go by my own personal experience and knowing that what you stated here is very correct. I contracted the Covid virus well before the shot was available. I was very sick with the virus. 102'F fever for 3 weeks, very weak, extreme body aches, headaches. But no respiratory problem fortunately, except a mild cough. I recovered and was fine.
My mistake from there was getting the shot. I had natural immunity but got the shot because I didn't want to get the virus again. My employer required that to stay with the company, we had to take the Covid shot and be boosted. If I had known then what I know now, I would have refused and turned that matter over to my attorney. But when I got the shot, it made me as sick or sicker than with the virus, but only for a couple of days. I understand how that happened. I know the shot doesn't provide immunity, but my natural immunity does.
That is not true. It is heavily dependent on the individual's risk profile, e.g., age, weight, diabetes, etc. Many groups and individuals were safer without the vax than taking it.I strongly suggest you dont have any of your providers wear masks for any medical procedures if you don’t think masks work. Covid was very rarely fatal for kids. That was known. The whole child vaccine campaign and mask campaign in school was to prevent spread to elderly caretakers. A lot of kids had grandparents die from covid. A lot of kids have single parent/caretakers. If the right thinks oppression is inconvenience of wearing a mask to help others, then you all are a weak, unempathic bunch.
The issue for me re the vax was that it was not tested. Anyone who got the shot WAS the test. In fact, they remain test subjects for long-term side effects that seem to continue to arise. I never got an Mrna shot and never will.Let's be honest here. When COVID hit, no one really knew what would work. It was the first time we seen something like this since 1917. And since vaccines essentially eradicated things like Polio, Measles, TB, etc...it was natural to think it would COVID. Hell, when COVID came out, I was like the boy in the bubble, I was afraid to go out and even receive packages. Not so much for my health, but I take care of my mom and didn't want to bring it into her house.
When it hit, it hit hard. The first breakouts the virus was super strong it seemed and overwhelmed health care systems. No offense 80, I know your stance on this but those first 6 months of COVID, its revisionist history to think that distancing, masks and vaccines weren't going to work. We didn't know. Even Tucker Carlson didn't know. I got vaccinated. Thrice. Again, mostly to protect my mom.
Two things happened.......well three.
1) The virus kept on replicating itself, albeit less potent, maybe more virulent, but it basically became a seasonal flu. Now that kills some people, but we don't mask, shut down and distance because of the flu.
2) It was realized that the vaccines didn't prevent either one from getting it or spreading it. So to continue to have mandates and firing people for not getting vaxxed, well that was not just wrong, but immoral.
3) Masks became stupid. OK? Ridiculous virtual signaling that "I am not a Republican", the Left's version of the red MAGA hat.
I still believe in vaccines, I think we are setting dangerous precedents that could reinvigorate diseases like measles.
More like ventilator hell. They now acknowledge that putting people on ventilators killed them.Man, thank God you didn't get respiratory problems. Back then you'd have been shipped to a ward and condemned to Remdesivir hell until your kidneys failed.
There was always a debate about which was worse - getting vaxxed after COVID vs getting COVID right after getting vaxxed.
I can't honestly say that the jab does not offer some protection, but the immunity you acquired was optimal. Your immunity developed against the entire virus instead of against a synthetic protein. No S proteins being birthed by your cells.
How long after COVID did you get the shot?
Man, thank God you didn't get respiratory problems. Back then you'd have been shipped to a ward and condemned to Remdesivir hell until your kidneys failed.
There was always a debate about which was worse - getting vaxxed after COVID vs getting COVID right after getting vaxxed.
I can't honestly say that the jab does not offer some protection, but the immunity you acquired was optimal. Your immunity developed against the entire virus instead of against a synthetic protein. No S proteins being birthed by your cells.
How long after COVID did you get the shot?
Good summary. Like I said most of this was known but you had to dig as you said highly regarded virologist and mRNA experts like Malone were delplatformed.Some add one here. I don't blame anyone for getting the shot early on. Hell, I don't really down anyone for getting it ever. Doctors advised us to get jabbed. No shame and I've no doubt the jabbed did help many who took it.
Problem no. 1: mRNA vaccines are not traditional vaccines in that a weakened or dead virus is administered which triggers an immune response and there after your body immediately can recognize and attack the virus later, before the symptoms can harm you.
COVID19 mRNA shots injected genetic material into you, not of the SARSCoV2 virus, but rather synthetic mRNA that enters your cells and causes them to manufacture the S protein that is similar to the Spike protein on the virus. The Spike is what attaches to cell sites and inserts genetic information into cells
So, the plan is to manufacture S proteins and trigger your immune system to recognize and attack them, basically attacking the virus. Kinda similar to how vaccines work, but not really.
If your immune cell will now attack the virus Spikes, why wouldn't it also attack your body's cells that are producing Spike proteins? Are Spike proteins destructive in their own right? How long does the vaccine continue making Spike proteins?
The EUA eliminated the requirement for traditional safety testing. We were all guinea pigs. They lied and said "safe and effective" even though the early studies show miscarriages and other red flags.
If the mRNA goes to the uterus, miscarriage? To the nerves in your face - Bells Palsy? To the heart muscle - Cardiomyopathy?
But there's always risk/reward decisions with meds and vaccines, right? Except COVID virtually never kills kids and they told us to vax our kids. All risk and little if any reward.
Also, the vax won't work if your body gobbles up the mRNA when it hits your bloodstream. So, to counter this, the mRNA was camouflaged in lipid nanoparticles. I think this is where some got the idea that nanobots were in the jab. 🙄. Anyhow these fat particles enabled the mRNA to cross the blood brain barrier. What could go wrong here, amIright?
And all this info was available right away. Sadly, researchers tried to warn us but they we deplatformed.
So, when I hear you say you still believe in vaccines, I ask if you still believe in gene based therapy too. Measles and polio vaccines didn't use mRNA to make you make the virus.
FWIW, Im going off memory from 3 years ago. I may be off on certain things, but I think this is basically accurate regarding the Pfizer type shots. I think I can dig up links to the initial research and EUA trials if you want it. Should still be out there.
The issue for me re the vax was that it was not tested. Anyone who got the shot WAS the test. In fact, they remain test subjects for long-term side effects that seem to continue to arise. I never got an Mrna shot and never will.
One thing you mentioned did cause me take action. When hospitals became overwhelmed, I isolated as much as possible. Less than most, but to some degree. It was easy for me because I was remodeling a house in 2020. I had to buy stuff from Lowe's HD, etc., but I was spending time with my wife working.
I did my research (on all those alt right sights) so I knew about Dr Malone, Geeert Vanden Bossche Peter McCollough and the former VP from pfeizer Michael Yeadon who provided the history of mRNA technology and the dangers.Really interesting info, BPKY. Great questions.
I can only go by my own personal experience and knowing that what you stated here is very correct. I contracted the Covid virus well before the shot was available. I was very sick with the virus. 102'F fever for 3 weeks, very weak, extreme body aches, headaches. But no respiratory problem fortunately, except a mild cough. I recovered and was fine.
My mistake from there was getting the shot. I had natural immunity but got the shot because I didn't want to get the virus again. My employer required that to stay with the company, we had to take the Covid shot and be boosted. If I had known then what I know now, I would have refused and turned that matter over to my attorney. But when I got the shot, it made me as sick or sicker than with the virus, but only for a couple of days. I understand how that happened. I know the shot doesn't provide immunity, but my natural immunity does.
True. I think they went hand in hand. People who went through that said they would tell their doctor that they didn't need a ventilator, that is, they could breath in and out easily. They tried to explain that they simply were not absorbing oxygen. Sadly the doctors ignored them. Their tool box was limited by hospital policy.More like ventilator hell. They now acknowledge that putting people on ventilators killed them.
True. I think they went hand in hand. People who went through that said they would tell their doctor that they didn't need a ventilator, that is, they could breath in and out easily. They tried to explain that they simply were not absorbing oxygen. Sadly the doctors ignored them. Their tool box was limited by hospital policy.
This was going on when other clinics were having great success with the alternative therapies. But nobody makes money using off brand therapies. Reminds me, now that the weather is breaking, I can dig out my "Fauci lied and people died" T shirt.
True. I think they went hand in hand. People who went through that said they would tell their doctor that they didn't need a ventilator, that is, they could breath in and out easily. They tried to explain that they simply were not absorbing oxygen. Sadly the doctors ignored them. Their tool box was limited by hospital policy.
This was going on when other clinics were having great success with the alternative therapies. But nobody makes money using off brand therapies. Reminds me, now that the weather is breaking, I can dig out my "Fauci lied and people died" T shirt.
Going to the hospital was a death sentence. Hospitals got bonuses for administering remdesivir which was proven to cause kidney failure as well as putting people on ventilators and for treating Covid.Man, thank God you didn't get respiratory problems. Back then you'd have been shipped to a ward and condemned to Remdesivir hell until your kidneys failed.
There was always a debate about which was worse - getting vaxxed after COVID vs getting COVID right after getting vaxxed.
I can't honestly say that the jab does not offer some protection, but the immunity you acquired was optimal. Your immunity developed against the entire virus instead of against a synthetic protein. No S proteins being birthed by your cells.
How long after COVID did you get the shot?
Thanks.About 3 months.
I talked to a doctor about how sick I got with the shot vs. how sick I was with the virus. She said my body reacted to the foreign substance from the shot as if it were the virus because I already had natural immunity. My body didn't like that. Never again!
So my reply is getting vaxed after Covid is a lot worse if it's a couple of months later with the shot.
Did you hear the story about hospitals jabbing people without their knowledge. They would ask patients if they had the jab and if they said no and didn’t say they didn’t want it they’d jab them I’ll try to find the linkThanks.
I see you posted now that you're a runner. I was gonna ask if you were in good shape when you initially said you had no really bad breathing issues. You're a wise man.
What you doc said makes sense. That sounds like a strong immune reaction, like with healthy young kids who get high fevers. I guess that's actually a good sign.
That brings up another point. (With the COVID clown show there is always more to discuss. ). Remember the intrepid "cytokine storm " that was all the rage? Oh, the fear!
Side note, in '22 I had to get a TB test for a job. The doc said nothing would penetrate the skin, just some kind of a scratch and sniff thing. I was nauseous with a headache for 24 hours. I never ever get headaches. They probably snuck the jab in me LOL
I forgot all about Geert. Haha. I mentioned him to a pharm apologist that posts on here and said that Geerts vast experience with viruses and vaccines was irrelevant because Geert was a veterinarian. I've been pißed ever since because I didn't think to ask him how the virus could have jumped from bats to humans if there's no relation. Shmucks, all of themI did my research (on all those alt right sights) so I knew about Dr Malone, Geeert Vanden Bossche Peter McCollough and the former VP from pfeizer Michael Yeadon who provided the history of mRNA technology and the dangers.
I was ready to quit my job if it was required
Never got Covid even though I was going to the gym regularly that May and going to restaurants. Here in SC. I do take an over the counter type of ZPAC to this day as it is really good at preventing virus’s. The zinc is good for you overall a anyway
Yeah, but only anecdotally.Did you hear the story about hospitals jabbing people without their knowledge. They would ask patients if they had the jab and if they said no and didn’t say they didn’t want it they’d jab them I’ll try to find the link
Yeah I had a healthy skepticism before covid. It covid was eye opening. Most Drs are nothing more than reps for Big Pharma. I’m sure you know that Rockefeller changed the medical profession when he steered it away from homeopathic measures (trying to prevent the illness rather than masking the symptoms wth drugs ) to a heavy reliance on Big PharmaI forgot all about Geert. Haha. I mentioned him to a pharm apologist that posts on here and said that Geerts vast experience with viruses and vaccines was irrelevant because Geert was a veterinarian. I've been pißed ever since because I didn't think to ask him how the virus could have jumped from bats to humans if there's no relation. Shmucks, all of them
My respect for doctors and experts has obviously disintegrated. Doctors are like car mechanics. I want your advice, but it's my car/body and I'll decide if your advice is worth anything.
Yeah, but only anecdotally.
I'm surprised though that if a lot of doctors did that, that some wouldn't have been cold cocked. 😄
Did you hear the story about hospitals jabbing people without their knowledge. They would ask patients if they had the jab and if they said no and didn’t say they didn’t want it they’d jab them I’ll try to find the link
Yeah I had a healthy skepticism before covid. It covid was eye opening. Most Drs are nothing more than reps for Big Pharma. I’m sure you know that Rockefeller changed the medical profession when he steered it away from homeopathic measures (trying to prevent the illness rather than masking the symptoms wth drugs ) to a heavy reliance on Big Pharma
True story. My wife was on 13 meds. I finally Convinced her to se a homeopathic dr. She’s now down to one
Biden pardoned him!!!!!When's Fauci going to jail?
Biden pardoned him!!!!!
But there's no pardon from the Lake of Fire.
(What? Too much religious hypernole? 😄)
Working remotely in sales is a way if life. So it was easy to isolate because no one was seeing anyone. And one "side effect" of these shutdowns and isolation is companies figured out they can save on alot of T&E expenses because you can have Zoom/Teams meetings online easier than actually going to visit customers. It has almost become a wall for employees to hide behind.The issue for me re the vax was that it was not tested. Anyone who got the shot WAS the test. In fact, they remain test subjects for long-term side effects that seem to continue to arise. I never got an Mrna shot and never will.
One thing you mentioned did cause me take action. When hospitals became overwhelmed, I isolated as much as possible. Less than most, but to some degree. It was easy for me because I was remodeling a house in 2020. I had to buy stuff from Lowe's HD, etc., but I was spending time with my wife working.