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Fire Huggins

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The Hoopies also only shot 31% from the field, which is why they could take 20 more shots than Texas but only make three more field goals. Combine that with shooting 14% from three and the 35% from the line and the real wonder is how they managed to even be in the game.

Of course the answer to that is rebounding and defense, but I know that some folks don't like to hear that.
 
Huggins is basically Dixon with a drinking problem. Don't forget, they had a really really bad stretch at WVU, just like we are having now. He bounced back, I think we will too.
 
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Kansas lost by 19 to an unranked Okie St team and goes to show how overrated cc's win against them was.
 
Huggins is basically Dixon with a drinking problem. Don't forget, they had a really really bad stretch at WVU, just like we are having now. He bounced back, I think we will too.
All starts with recruiting. To see Pitt being down by 28 to a winless ACC team in the 1st half though is very worrisome regarding Dixon's coaching imo.
 
All starts with recruiting. To see Pitt being down by 28 to a winless ACC team in the 1st half though is very worrisome regarding Dixon's coaching imo.
Meh. Huggins had some god awful teams, guys with drug problems, getting kicked off for committing crimes. Guys not panning out and transfering (sound familiar?). It was a hot mess. If you tell me you would have stuck through those years he had to get to where WVU I is today, I won't believe you. If we were WVU fans instead of Pitt, we would have had this exact conversation like 4 years ago you asking me would I want Dixon over Huggins because Huggins had lost the ability to manage a team.
 
Would you guys rather have Huggins at Pitt or Dixon?

Huggins is a VERY good coach. Given his age and health, I'd say Jamie, but I respect Huggins a lot. And it is not like WVU is trotting out a bunch of 5 star recruits. He's very good at getting players, especially guards, who can play his style. For all those who think Jamie is stubborn, Huggins is much worse. Sometimes WVU gets into games with the wrong matchup and they simply can't adjust.

That being said, he's underrated, especially on a Pitt board. That is not an easy job given that school and the league it plays in, and he's got the program going again. Like Jamie, he'll have a down year or two, but the wins speak for themselves.
 
Meh. Huggins had some god awful teams, guys with drug problems, getting kicked off for committing crimes. Guys not panning out and transfering (sound familiar?). It was a hot mess. If you tell me you would have stuck through those years he had to get to where WVU I is today, I won't believe you. If we were WVU fans instead of Pitt, we would have had this exact conversation like 4 years ago you asking me would I want Dixon over Huggins because Huggins had lost the ability to manage a team.
The players Huggy recruits are of renegade caliber.
 
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Meh. Huggins had some god awful teams, guys with drug problems, getting kicked off for committing crimes. Guys not panning out and transfering (sound familiar?). It was a hot mess. If you tell me you would have stuck through those years he had to get to where WVU I is today, I won't believe you. If we were WVU fans instead of Pitt, we would have had this exact conversation like 4 years ago you asking me would I want Dixon over Huggins because Huggins had lost the ability to manage a team.
Pretty good points BUT I do think if Huggins was the coach during the elite 8 run we get to at least the final 4. I think some of Dixon's other early teams if Huggins coached we go farther in March. Just my opinion.
 
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Pretty good points BUT I do think if Huggins was the coach during the elite 8 run we get to at least the final 4. I think some of Dixon's other early teams if Huggins coached we go farther in March. Just my opinion.
Yeah I can't prove or disprove it. It basically doesn't matter, because we could never know the answer.
 
Huggins is a VERY good coach. Given his age and health, I'd say Jamie, but I respect Huggins a lot. And it is not like WVU is trotting out a bunch of 5 star recruits. He's very good at getting players, especially guards, who can play his style. For all those who think Jamie is stubborn, Huggins is much worse. Sometimes WVU gets into games with the wrong matchup and they simply can't adjust.

That being said, he's underrated, especially on a Pitt board. That is not an easy job given that school and the league it plays in, and he's got the program going again. Like Jamie, he'll have a down year or two, but the wins speak for themselves.

Agree with every word.
 
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Pretty good points BUT I do think if Huggins was the coach during the elite 8 run we get to at least the final 4. I think some of Dixon's other early teams if Huggins coached we go farther in March. Just my opinion.

Could Bob Huggins have caused Villanova to not shoot 22-23 from the FT line or however ridiculous it was? Cause if so, I'd agree with you.

Pitt played their heart out in that game, and I don't remember for a second thinking Jamie coached that game wrong in any respect.

I did see Huggins lose as a one seed in the second round, as Jamie did. I don't think Huggins is that much better a coach b/c he made a FF at WVU and lost by like 30 to Duke. To me, Pitt basically getting high seeds for a decade with Dixon, when I think very few if any could have done as well, is as important, if not more, than success in a one and done.

Had Huggins won championships, I'd disagree. Which is why Izzo is in another stratosphere from Huggy and Jamie
 
Izzo has 7 Final Fours and a national title on his resume. Izzo's earned a slightly longer leash than Dixon.
Did you seriously think that his was a serious post? Sheesh. I think that thing flying over your head wasn't another bad pass by Pitt, it was Kimg's point.
 
The Hoopies also only shot 31% from the field, which is why they could take 20 more shots than Texas but only make three more field goals. Combine that with shooting 14% from three and the 35% from the line and the real wonder is how they managed to even be in the game.

Of course the answer to that is rebounding and defense, but I know that some folks don't like to hear that.
The only reason it was close was that Texas isn't very good. I thought Shaka was the savior???
 
Hahaha. Here we go. WVU was not going to go 32-2. What he has done there is boggling to the mind. No recruiting base, crappy conference (perception-wise to NE recruits who dont view Iowa State and Baylor as elite programs). Yet he is cruising for a 1 or 2 seed in March.

Huggy has a GREAT program down there. We should consider ourselves lucky that such a prestigious basketball program like WVU is willing to play us home and home. I mean they are willing to make a trip to the scary, intimidating Pete, where nobody, I mean nobody wins.........except for half the P5 teams that play here.
He likes playing in front of non-donors & assorted cheapskates. ;)
No one should ever question Thuggins' ability to coach.
 
Would you guys rather have Huggins at Pitt or Dixon?

Huggins
And i'm not a Dixon hater at all. It's just Huggs is a character, and he can recruit...oh and he's proven he knows how to make deep runs in the tournament at multiple stops. It would actually be interesting to see what someone like Huggs could do with the facilities and $$ of Pitt, compared to UC and WVU.

However... we'd have to talk about the belichick-esque dress-code haha.
 
Pitt, WVU, and many other teams have had terrible games where they can't score. Pitt will be just fine the rest of the season if they can avoid these meltdowns so frequently. However the difference is WVU had a game like that and played good enough defense to keep the game close. Maybe Pitt really should go full-time zone? Clearly their defense isn't good enough to even slightly help them win games. It's basically all offense, all the time and when the shooting is not there it is going to be a really long night for Pitt.
 
If the shooting goes terribly cold... yea i think a press that rolls into a zone would make a lot of sense. I don't think that was gonna work against NC State, since they were shooting lights out, and the 2-3 would have only made that worse for us.
 
I was at the WVU game last night and they were God awful but it happens.Look around the country its happening to teams everywhere. Lots of upsets every night it seems.Huggy was one mad fellow on the post game.They want to fire him on their bb board,just like Jamie here!You have to love fans!
 
I was at the WVU game last night and they were God awful but it happens.Look around the country its happening to teams everywhere. Lots of upsets every night it seems.Huggy was one mad fellow on the post game.They want to fire him on their bb board,just like Jamie here!You have to love fans!

If KU can lose by 19 to an Okie State team who lost their past 4...it's just a weird year.
Kansas certainly has no TALENT or coaching issues.
 
Hahaha. Here we go. WVU was not going to go 32-2. What he has done there is boggling to the mind. No recruiting base, crappy conference (perception-wise to NE recruits who dont view Iowa State and Baylor as elite programs). Yet he is cruising for a 1 or 2 seed in March.

Huggy has a GREAT program down there. We should consider ourselves lucky that such a prestigious basketball program like WVU is willing to play us home and home. I mean they are willing to make a trip to the scary, intimidating Pete, where nobody, I mean nobody wins.........except for half the P5 teams that play here.

We are not going to cruise to a 1 or 2 seed. Last night was a major loss and we have yet to encounter the meat of our schedule. It is also hardly mind boggling WVU is winning basketball games. We have made more tournaments than Pitt and been a solid program for about a decade now, there are much tougher places to coach than WVU...
 
We are not going to cruise to a 1 or 2 seed. Last night was a major loss and we have yet to encounter the meat of our schedule. It is also hardly mind boggling WVU is winning basketball games. We have made more tournaments than Pitt and been a solid program for about a decade now, there are much tougher places to coach than WVU...
Not that it matters..but you've made the tournament 7 times the past decade. Pitt made it 8.
So that comment if factually incorrect.
 
Not that it matters..but you've made the tournament 7 times the past decade. Pitt made it 8.
So that comment if factually incorrect.

We have made the NCAA tournament 26 times to Pitt's 25, the point was to illustrate we have been a solid program in both the past and present.
 
We have made the NCAA tournament 26 times to Pitt's 25, the point was to illustrate we have been a solid program in both the past and present.
So why did you say the past decade in your comment?
Why not say all time?
It's okay, you made an incorrect statement. Just say you stand corrected and move on.

Now moving the bar, is frankly a silly attempt to deflect.
 
"We have made more tournaments than Pitt AND been a solid program for a decade now"

Two separate points meant to support the notion that WVU is a solid program where sustained success both past and present is not that rare.
 
The Hoopies also only shot 31% from the field, which is why they could take 20 more shots than Texas but only make three more field goals. Combine that with shooting 14% from three and the 35% from the line and the real wonder is how they managed to even be in the game.

Of course the answer to that is rebounding and defense, but I know that some folks don't like to hear that.

Yes but they lost despite playing great defense and rebounding. They lost. Because they couldn't make a shot. Basketball is still about putting the ball in the basket first and foremost. But I know that some folks don't like to hear that.
 
If KU can lose by 19 to an Okie State team who lost their past 4...it's just a weird year.
Kansas certainly has no TALENT or coaching issues.

It is a weird year for sure. No great teams and few very good teams. And about 25-40 pretty good teams. The One and Dones are really helping parity (or is it parody) as there are a lot of bluebloods with talents who have no idea on how to play basketball vs "mid majors" who have lineups with starters that may have almost 100 starts on their resume.

This tournament is going to be wild, chalk will not prevail.
 
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