First College Football Playoff Rankings

[VAPITTALUM]

Pitt is little to no different than week 2 of the season. Take me off the "all agree" list.

And this supports my last post. well done, didn't take long. here I thought we could have a solid discussion.

 

[cavic]

Would beat Pitt if played this weekend and would only have 1 loss (to Michigan) and ranked in the top 10.

Said PSU should fire Franklin for losing to Pitt but obviously have made great progress since then.

Easily a 2 TD favorite if they lined up today

 

[TD_6082]

There is no way in hell PSU would be a 2 TD favorite over Pitt.

 

[Piranha]

Easily a 2 TD favorite if they lined up today

You might win the prize for Dumbest Post of the Week. Good Luck

 

[ncyajleel]

What kind of world do you live in? You PoSU people want everything both ways. It doesn't matter if they were ranked when played, it only matter at the end of the year, the entire body of work. By your logic then anyone who played PoSU prior to OSU played a horrible PoSU team. Remember Michigan State and Notre Dame, they were highly ranked once. Remember Texas after beating Notre Dame?

By the way, all you morons saying if PoSU and Pitt played now, you would win. I guarantee if you play OSU nine more times, OSU wins them all.

I'm starting to think maybe they didn't know their coach was a pedophile. Most of these PoSU fans are dumber than rocks, so maybe they didn't.

You do realize the irony that one of the ranked teams on your schedule is PSU and one of the un ranked ones on ours is Pitt... Thanks for playing man defense with freshman corners all year on an island. As far as your statistic how many were ranked when they played you????

 

[atcorona27]

There is no way in hell PSU would be a 2 TD favorite over Pitt.

I'm a Penn State fan, no chance PSU beats Pitt by 2 TD'S, more like 3!

Joking aside, if both played again I could see a reversal in the spread PSU favored by 3 as Pitt was on the lines I followed at the time, that may be generous, but they've improved much more than some here at Pitt would give them credit for.

When I watch Penn State from Week 1 to know and the progress they've made its noticible on D and have began building as the season progresses, where as Pitt has and will continue to score but also for whatever reason can't make the one stop they need at the end, Pitt doesn't get a fair shake when they discuss explosive offensives nationally

 

[daminals76]

You do realize the irony that one of the ranked teams on your schedule is PSU and one of the un ranked ones on ours is Pitt... Thanks for playing man defense with freshman corners all year on an island. As far as your statistic how many were ranked when they played you????

Thats irrelevant....There are 5 ranked teams on Pitts schedule, and only 2 on PSUs.
Penn states schedule is very easy this year.

 

[olelion]

No surprise here. A CFP thread evolved into a PSU thread. Its going pretty well but it needs a childish injection of "ped state", "UPS", "Joe ped", etc. Come on children, you're slipping. Time to get clever

 

[Piranha]

No surprise here. A CFP thread evolved into a PSU thread. Its going pretty well but it needs a childish injection of "ped state", "UPS", "Joe ped", etc. Come on children, you're slipping. Time to get clever

It is a Pitt board, but for some reason PS people felt the need to come here. Did you go to the Michigan, Temple, Minnesota, Purdue board as well?

 

[FireballZ]

LOL - Moo U people are scary. If we played them the last game of the season, I bet it'd be that they would have beat us if only we played them at the beginning of the year before sanctions affected their depth.

 

[olelion]

What kind of world do you live in? You PoSU people want everything both ways. It doesn't matter if they were ranked when played, it only matter at the end of the year, the entire body of work. By your logic then anyone who played PoSU prior to OSU played a horrible PoSU team. Remember Michigan State and Notre Dame, they were highly ranked once. Remember Texas after beating Notre Dame?

By the way, all you morons saying if PoSU and Pitt played now, you would win. I guarantee if you play OSU nine more times, OSU wins them all.

I'm starting to think maybe they didn't know their coach was a pedophile. Most of these PoSU fans are dumber than rocks, so maybe they didn't.

Look. As a fan of PSU, losing to Pitt sucks. And worse, if it's a close game, it lingers until the next meeting. The coping mechanism is pretty simple;

1) if the game were played today...
2) yeah but we're ranked higher
I could go on, but you get the jist of it. but in the end, the outcome can't'' be changed. This is why I love college football and rivalry games.

 

[Piranha]

Look. As a fan of PSU, losing to Pitt sucks. And worse, if it's a close game, it lingers until the next meeting. The coping mechanism is pretty simple;

1) if the game were played today...
2) yeah but we're ranked higher
I could go on, but you get the jist of it. but in the end, the outcome can't'' be changed. This is why I love college football and rivalry games.

You are going to get yourself in trouble with your brethren for calling it a rivalry game. Be careful.

 

[razpsu]

We played Pitt. We lost! We got better, healthier, more experienced and we now can have a very good year if we stay focused. So let's see if Pitt can straighten their program out. Narduzzi has got to get off the insanity kick and start coaching his players up rather than knocking them down. It will get old soon if it is t already wearing thin with the players fans and alumni. We will see you next year in state college. By the way!! Steelers rule! We have that in common.

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

"razpsu, post: 1646138, member: 44797"]We played Pitt. We lost! We got better, healthier, more experienced and we now can have a very good year if we stay focused.
Well said, and Pitt benefits by PSU being Ranked finally in Franklin's 3rd season and 6th Head Coaching year and playing just 2 Ranked Teams.

So let's see if Pitt can straighten their program out.
Agree again, up to Pitt to win more barely 3 losses to 3 ranked teams, and beating just 1 so far this year. Narduzzi is barely losing to Top Ranked Teams, as Franklin is barely beating Mediocre Teams and losing to the Pitt Team Franklin could not straighten out with Lions having far more blow outs on easier schedules?

Are you blind or do you think beating Maryland, Minnesota and Purdue is somehow great with Rutgers and Indiana coming up and 2-5 MSU? Do you really think Penn State could beat OKSU, UNC and VT earlier or now too?

Narduzzi has got to get off the insanity kick and start coaching his players up rather than knocking them down.
Disagree, Narduzzi is not on any insanity kick, just in his 2nd Year as a Head Coach at Pitt Program and in Pitt's 4th Power Conference year, with less 4 & 5 Star Talent and playing far more ranked Teams than Franklin easy schedules of the last 3 years being blown away more times too, and losing to Narduzzi?

It will get old soon if it is t already wearing thin with the players fans and alumni.
I agree, and why Franklin deserves an Extension this year!

We will see you next year in state college. By the way!!
Looking forward again to it!

Steelers rule!
Yep, but I like the Eagles too!

We have that in common.
Disagree, we have a rivalry in common that Penn State Fans acknowledged this year at Heinz and your comments above back it up, wanting and can't wait to play Pitt again.

Penn State should be promoting an Extension for Franklin and an Extension to continue the Pitt-Penn State series! Just like in the 1970s, Penn State rise to NCS Status gain great respect when it beat Pitt that won the NCS in 1976. Together, playing tougher Teams helps to win better together too.

I would love to see a WVU, PSU, PITT, and ND in the NCS Playoffs!

 

[Nittany1997]

The only thing that matters is what the voters think. They are the ones who decide their fate. #truth

Narduzzi needs to work on the insanity.

 

[GT74]

We played Pitt. We lost! We got better, healthier, more experienced and we now can have a very good year if we stay focused. So let's see if Pitt can straighten their program out. Narduzzi has got to get off the insanity kick and start coaching his players up rather than knocking them down. It will get old soon if it is t already wearing thin with the players fans and alumni. We will see you next year in state college. By the way!! Steelers rule! We have that in common.

Coach Narduzzi is an emotional guy, that is his personality. He does not 'knock' his players. Makes statements in general about performance of team, positive and negative. He is honest and tells it like he sees it, but players love his fire and passion. Some coaches are emotional and some are stoic. You can win or lose either way, different ways to skin a cat.

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

The only thing that matters is what the voters think. They are the ones who decide their fate. #truth

Part right, but too soon too! It is still up to Teams to win to become the Top 4 in Votes and that when it is decided.

Penn State is a Powerful Program with Athletic Integrity from the Penn State 2012 Reforms removing the sanctions and now Franklin has mature Team of Great Players to win the Big Ten if Michigan loses two games and Ohio State one and Penn State none!

If Michigan loses one but beats Ohio State it will win since it beat Penn State. If Ohio State beats Michigan and is tied with Penn State then Ohio State wins since Penn State lost to Pitt!

Until the next few games are finally played Penn State Fans have the right to be very proud they are Ranked 12th in this weeks vote! I don't have trouble with it at all and the schedule is not that tough playing so far only 2 ranked Teams and beating 1 and losing to the other.

Good Luck!

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

ACC Week 9 Rankings
1. Clemson (8-0) TOSS UP LOSS
2. Louisville (7-1)
3. Virginia Tech (6-2) LOSS
4. North Carolina (6-2) LOSS
5. Florida State (5-3)
6. Pitt (5-3)
7. Miami (4-4) TOSS UP
8. Georgia Tech (5-3) WIN
9. North Carolina State (4-4)
10. Wake Forest (5-3)
11. Virginia (2-6) WIN
12. Duke (3-5) TOSS UP WIN
13. Syracuse (4-4) TOSS UP
14. Boston College (4-4)

Big Ten Week 9 Rankings
1. Michigan (8-0) LOSS
2. Ohio State (7-1) WIN
3. Wisconsin (6-2)
4. Nebraska (7-1)
5. Penn State (6-2)
6. Northwestern (4-4)
7. Iowa (5-3) TOSS UP LOSS
8. Minnesota (6-2) WIN
9. Indiana (4-4) TOSS UP WIN
10. Maryland (5-3) WIN
11. Michigan State (2-6) TOSS UP WIN
12. Purdue (3-5) WIN
13. Illinois (2-6)
14. Rutgers (2-6) WIN

Big 12 Week 9 Rankings
1. Oklahoma (6-2) TOSS UP LOSS
2. Oklahoma State (6-2) LOSS
3. Kansas State (5-3) WIN
4. West Virginia (6-1)
5. Texas (4-4) TOSS UP
6. Baylor (6-1) TOSS UP LOSS
7. Texas Tech (4-4) WIN
8. TCU (4-4) WIN
9. Iowa State (1-7) WIN
10. Kansas (1-7) WIN

 

[goethe14]

Obviously Pitt fans don't get the whole point of the we played 5 ranked teams argument. If you would have beaten UNC and VA Tech you are ranked not them. Then you would count as a ranked team on our schedule. You are artificially pumping them up. You should have beat them. Your defense and your head coach who refused to alter his defense failed you. Stop hiding behind the we played 5 ranked teams nonsense. These are not top 10 teams. Your team should have won and didn't. Yes you beat PSU. PSU however has shown steady progress. Has Pitt? This is not on your schedule, this is on your head coach and poor in game coaching on the defensive side.

 

[pittguy81]

I haven't heard anyone say PSU deserved to win. I've heard people say PSU is a much better team today than they were week two, primarily due to players getting healthy and how inexperienced the front 7 was, the same front 7 that just dominated #2 OSU, the same OSU team that vegas currently has as the #2 team behind Bama.

They dominated OSU so much that the Buckeyes had 450 yards of offense and led 21-7 going into the 4th qtr. PSU made a couple big special teams plays late to steal the game. Dominated? LMAO!

 

[pittguy81]

Minnesota (33) one behind Pitt on the Composite Massey Ratings.
Temple just six slots behind (39)

http://www.masseyratings.com/cf/compare.htm

Pitt best win was against Georgia Tech (44).

So it wasn't PSU?

 

[VAPITTALUM]

No surprise here. A CFP thread evolved into a PSU thread. Its going pretty well but it needs a childish injection of "ped state", "UPS", "Joe ped", etc. Come on children, you're slipping. Time to get clever

It really wasn't until your buddy breeze90 decided to join the party.

 

[Pittx9]

Excuses aside from the Nitters, what do you think happened in Sept. when we played? You really think PSU got better? Cause that was a pretty damn PSU team that showed up that day. They played one heck of a ball game. They were every bit as good then as they are now. It just makes some uncomfortable to admit Pitt beat a good Penn State team.

 

[daminals76]

We played Pitt. We lost! We got better, healthier, more experienced and we now can have a very good year if we stay focused. So let's see if Pitt can straighten their program out. Narduzzi has got to get off the insanity kick and start coaching his players up rather than knocking them down. It will get old soon if it is t already wearing thin with the players fans and alumni. We will see you next year in state college. By the way!! Steelers rule! We have that in common.

We played PSU...won... since that game we have got healthier and better, but since we play a real schedule we have 3 losses right now. Still a better team than psu...to say otherwise is sour grapes.

 

[pittdan77]

Personally, I think PSU showing up at #12 has a lot to do with a close, quality loss to a team that has consistently proven that it's only a couple plays away from being undefeated. Not sure how to explain away Michigan but whatever.

The first rankings are always a joke. Putting A&M at #4 ahead of Washington proves that. They were throttled by Alabama and nearly lost to a slowly imploding Tennessee team. They do it so that ESPN has something to fill time with during their fifty CFB commercials/shows about the SEC.

 

[anon_vmuicqnzlyp3u]

13th in strength of schedule, part in thanks to a top-30/35ish Pitt team

Who won our the Pitt/PSU game nitter? Boy for a team you don't care about there sure are a lot of you nit-wits here

 

[CampbellLION]

They dominated OSU so much that the Buckeyes had 450 yards of offense and led 21-7 going into the 4th qtr. PSU made a couple big special teams plays late to steal the game. Dominated? LMAO!

Prior to the PSU game OSU only had given up 5 sacks all season. PSU had 6. The stats through 3 quarters were pretty even, OSU statistically dominated the 4th because PSU had the two blocked kicks.

 

[CampbellLION]

Part right, but too soon too! It is still up to Teams to win to become the Top 4 in Votes and that when it is decided.

Penn State is a Powerful Program with Athletic Integrity from the Penn State 2012 Reforms removing the sanctions and now Franklin has mature Team of Great Players to win the Big Ten if Michigan loses two games and Ohio State one and Penn State none!

If Michigan loses one but beats Ohio State it will win since it beat Penn State. If Ohio State beats Michigan and is tied with Penn State then Ohio State wins since Penn State lost to Pitt!

Until the next few games are finally played Penn State Fans have the right to be very proud they are Ranked 12th in this weeks vote! I don't have trouble with it at all and the schedule is not that tough playing so far only 2 ranked Teams and beating 1 and losing to the other.

Good Luck!

PSU does not have a mature team. They only have one senior starter on offense and 3 on defense and there aren't many more on the second team.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

What narcotics are these people on, and where can I get them?

Unbeaten Washington 5th?

Penn State 12?????

They don't rank teams, they rank resumes. I haven't looked at it all of it but PSU has one of the best wins in all of college football this season. One of their losses was to Michigan. The other loss on the road against a good team. So, yea, I could see them that high.

Funny thing is Pitt would probably be ranked higher if we beat VT. We would be 6-2 with a a head to head win over PSU, a win over a barely out of Top 25 VT and 2 losses on final drives to Top 20 teams.

 

[VAPITTALUM]

Prior to the PSU game OSU only had given up 5 sacks all season. PSU had 6. The stats through 3 quarters were pretty even, OSU statistically dominated the 4th because PSU had the two blocked kicks.

Correct on the first half, OSU had a total of 214 yards of total offense vs. 204 to PSU. The third quarter was dominated by OSU with 105 yards vs. -7 yards for PSU. The 4th quarter was also pretty even with PSU having 89 yards of total offense vs. 74 to OSU.

The third quarter is where OSU plunged ahead in total yardage.

 

[TD_6082]

Personally, I think PSU showing up at #12 has a lot to do with a close, quality loss to a team that has consistently proven that it's only a couple plays away from being undefeated. Not sure how to explain away Michigan but whatever.

The first rankings are always a joke. Putting A&M at #4 ahead of Washington proves that. They were throttled by Alabama and nearly lost to a slowly imploding Tennessee team. They do it so that ESPN has something to fill time with during their fifty CFB commercials/shows about the SEC.

Texas A&M led Tennessee for most of the game. And that was a different Tennessee team then than it is today. Injuries have caught up with them, and since they have completed the meat of their schedule, (and since they were curb-stomped by Bama) they appear to have checked out on 2016. But that wasn't the case when they played in College Station earlier this year.

 

[pittguy81]

Easily a 2 TD favorite if they lined up today

Line would be Pitt -3 or 3 1/2 and Pitt would win yet again.

 

[TempleBAPittMPA]

Would beat Pitt if played this weekend

Same level of "logic" says that Temple would beat Penn State "if played this weekend". However, the games were played when they were played, and they count.

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

PSU does not have a mature team. They only have one senior starter on offense and 3 on defense and there aren't many more on the second team.

I agree, but this is the 9th game, and they are far more mature than they were 9 games ago. Barkley and McSorley are coming together as Dynamic Duo, and once they open up Sanders, and Wideouts, with a Ol getting better after 5 more games plus all next year Spring Ball, it will be pretty mature in 2017 too.

PSU always had a Powerful Program and still does with more talent level recruiting!

I think Pitt has the better coaching but the Program need more growth being just in the ACC for 4 years.

WVU has the bigger challenge and in between both but isolated in the Big-12.

All 3 need to grow better to beat Michigan, Oklahoma, Clemson, OSU, UNC, OKSU, and UTexas, Miami, and Baylor.

 

[goethe14]

They don't rank teams, they rank resumes. I haven't looked at it all of it but PSU has one of the best wins in all of college football this season. One of their losses was to Michigan. The other loss on the road against a good team. So, yea, I could see them that high.

Funny thing is Pitt would probably be ranked higher if we beat VT. We would be 6-2 with a a head to head win over PSU, a win over a barely out of Top 25 VT and 2 losses on final drives to Top 20 teams.

I've written basically the exact same thing in here but for some reason most of the posters seem to like moral victories. To say Pitt has a real schedule by saying they will play 5 ranked teams is ridiculous and disingenuous. If Pitt beats both UNC and VaTech neither are ranked. Both are games you should have won but for horrible defensive lack of adjustments. You let a one legged QB from VA Tech throw jump balls all game because that's Pat's defense and he doesn't change. Have you ever heard a good coach say he won't change a game plan that isn't working? If we lose to Minnesota and Maryland guess what they are ranked. It's such a stupid moving Target. All it means is you team didn't win when they should of. These weren't top 10 teams you played but fringe top 25. I can't believe the Pitt fanbase is willing to accept that. You should be 7-1 ranked in the teens but your coach failed you. But instead of looking at the truth you'll run with a Dokish tweet....

 

[pittguy81]

No surprise here. A CFP thread evolved into a PSU thread. Its going pretty well but it needs a childish injection of "ped state", "UPS", "Joe ped", etc. Come on children, you're slipping. Time to get clever

It did indeed thanks to PSU trolls such as you. Why are you here to begin with?

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

"goethe14, post: 1646875, member: 11826"]I've written basically the exact same thing in here but for some reason most of the posters seem to like moral victories.
Very good point, and you are more correct, only thing counts is real wins. So, points in time during the season are changeable and concur. However, your can't just mock Moral Victories in your myopic way saying it reflects poor coaching? When No (Not Just Some) Posters can then ignore when his Team is being blown away in more games that reflects even worst coaching???? Especially with a Richer, Bigger, Program of Talent?

Moral Victories losing by 1 to 2 plays from 1 too 3 to 7 points shows better coaching then Blow Out Losses in games over by Half-Time and by 20, 30, & 40 points? This is truly just bad coaching!

To say Pitt has a real schedule by saying they will play 5 ranked teams is ridiculous and disingenuous. If Pitt beats both UNC and VaTech neither are ranked.
This is fair comment and Teams beating Teams does upset that one moment in time Picture of #6OSU, #17UNC, #20PSU, #21VT, and #22OKSU but it is still where all Teams end up at Final Rankings.

This also why PSU being ranked #12 for NCS Rating Playoff is also ridiculous and disingenuous one can argue as well.

Now i don't mind it, and it is fine with me right now, and they can improve their destiny by winning all the rests as stated.

Yet, when to count wins and rankings are done every week cumulative even if none were Ranked in early season or came and went this and next week. They do use records, SOS, and scores in the ratings as well. So, I say that is CFB and deal with it and really no way to argue who is more ridiculous and disingenuous either?

Nonetheless, the only Polls that count are the Final Rankings and wins losses and against Top Ranked Teams and Top Proven Coaches with subjective and some objective values, to be fair and far more accurate at the end of season!

I see your points right now in this 9th week moment of time and can agree with it.

Both are games you should have won but for horrible defensive lack of adjustments. You let a one legged QB from VA Tech throw jump balls all game because that's Pat's defense and he doesn't change.
Now you are making arguments that can be used against your Teams. Did PSU just get lucky beating Unranked Minnesota in OT? Or WVU winning against unranked KSU by 1 point? Compare to Pitt just losing by 1, 3, or 7 points to 3 Ranked Teams that if Pitt make one more play would Pitt Ranked too?

I mean isn't it ridiculous and disingenuous to excuse Franklin poor coaching and bad game plans and terrible execution against Michigan, and last year against OSU, MSU, and Michigan again and Franklin is in his 6th Year with a Bigger Program & Talent? Holgrosen as well when he lost to OKSU in his 6th year by 17 Points compared to Narduzzi's 7 points in his 16th game?

The Rankings and NCS ratings are weighted values as well and far more incorrect Preseason and change all during the season, but that never stops controversy. A 36-37 Loss is better than a 49-10 Loss. Neither are Moral Victories but one shows more poor coaching than the other?

Have you ever heard a good coach say he won't change a game plan that isn't working?
Yeah, Franklin and Holgrosen the last 2 years and beating lightweights and then getting blown away the last two years. Yet, somehow Narduzzi losing by 1, 3, and 7 is a bad coach against Ranked but Franklin beating OSU by 3 is better on 2 block kicks???? You just contradicted your own arguments?

If we lose to Minnesota and Maryland guess what they are ranked. It's such a stupid moving Target. All it means is you team didn't win when they should of. These weren't top 10 teams you played but fringe top 25.
Why use "IF" when you have results, now you are making Hypo Questions and then answering them the way you want? PSU barley beat Minnesota in OT! Blown away by Top 10 Michigan, and won one signature game in 3 years with a blocked kick?

But Pitt fans are delusional for arguing Pitt has been playing against better Teams and still staying with them with a !st & 2nd Year New Coach with less Program Resources? But Penn State Fans don't look ridiculous the last 3 years because they are waiting for 2018 to win with a Mature Team?

I can't believe the Pitt fanbase is willing to accept that. You should be 7-1 ranked in the teens but your coach failed you. But instead of looking at the truth you'll run with a Dokish tweet...
I like your comments and agree and disagree but the facts are Franklin with a stronger PSU Program and more Talent has done worst and PSU Fans accepted it as wait to 2018 and couldn't beat Pitt? WVU just lost to OKSU by 17 but Pitt should have won?

I see it as All 3 Coaches are still struggling at 7-6, 8-5, and PSU and WVU can't run away and claim they are much better when you are doing the exact same thing with more Program Advantages but less Coaching blaming Sanctions, Negative Recruiting, losing bigger, coaching staff changes, while making more money and before 60,000+ WVU Fans and 90,000+ PSU Fans, but only Pitt Fans are delusional beating PSU you bragged are Ranked right now playing 2 Teams and WVU losing to OKSU bigger than Pitt????

I have not it yet, but I will do an analysis of what Franklin, Narduzzi, and Holgrosen beat other Coaches as well to add another Factor to weigh in on how they have done against Top Coaches that have produced Top Ten Teams and those Bottom Feeders. I'll post it and you and others can comment on it!

I still don't see much difference between WVU, PITT or PSU right now at all, and what you apply to PITT applies to PSU & WVU too?

Most Posters will argue all season long that when their Teams Won or Lost they might be better by now, but below Pitt has had the tougher schedule to date and PSU and WVU have more Moral Victories and Blow Outs!

PITT:
6-2 Villanova 28-7 FCS
6-2 Penn State 42-39 RANKED #20 Beat #6OSU 24-21
6-2 Oklahoma State 38-45 RANKED #22 Beat WVU 37-20
6-2 North Carolina 36-37 RANKED #17
2-6 Marshall 43-27
5-3 Georgia Tech 37-34
2-6 Virginia 45-31
6-2 Virginia Tech 36-39 RANKED #21 Beat UNC
39-25 Competition
PITT Remaining Schedule:
4-4 Miami
8-0 Clemson RANKED #3
3-5 Duke
4-4 Cuse
58-38 Competition

PENN STATE:
3-6 Kent State 33-13
5-3 Pitt 39-42
6-3 Temple 34-27
8-0 Michigan 10-49 RANKED #2
6-2 Minnesota 29-26 OT
5-3 Maryland 38-14
7-1 Ohio State 24-21 RANKED #6
40-18 Competition
PSU Remaining Schedule:
5-3 Iowa
4-4 Indiana
2-6 Rutgers
2-6 MSU
53-37 Competition

WVU:
2-6 Missouri 26-11
6-2 Youngstown State 38-21 FCS
4-4 BYU 35-32
5-3 Kansas State 16-15
4-4 Texas Tech 48-17
4-4 TCU 34-10
6-2 Oklahoma State 20-37
31-25 Competition
WVU Remaining Schedule:
1-7 Kansas
4-4 Texas
6-2 Oklahoma
1-7 Iowa State
6-1 Baylor
49-46 Competition

The season is still playing out and it is my view if PITT, WVU, & PSU all played each other right now, they would be Toss Up Games, just like OKSU, UNC, and VT too for Pitt right now!

Pitt playing a Clemson Team in 10 Days, WVU has OU & Baylor, all Ranked Teams now, and Penn State has only Iowa left with a winning record

 

[crosbymalkin8771]

But instead of looking at the truth you'll run with a Dokish tweet....

Well not that I agree with everything he tweets, but recently he said Pitt, PSU and WVU are all relatively around the same level this year.

This I agree with... I mean the beauty of college football is just all the endless debates we can have about judging this team, that team that blew out this team, that team that narrowly beat this team, etc. etc.

(I still maintain it's basically Alabama and everyone else)

Edit: not sure if you'll make it to my reply since Captain responded first lol. But I echoed his sentiment on not a huge diff between pitt/PSU/wvu this year. I had two PSU coworkers try to tell me today PSU would "blow out" pitt in a rematch. Sureeee...