Florida DB has us in his top 5

[Chairman Moe]

Forgive me if this guy's been discussed here before, but while reading the Sports page in this morning's Palm Beach Post, I saw this article. He mentions Pitt as one of his top 5, right behind Miami and ND. Seems like a level-headed kid; wonder if he'll make a trip to the Burgh this fall to see the school/facilities?

http://highschoolbuzz.blog.palmbeac...uiting-qa-palm-beach-gardens-db-amari-carter/

 

[vegasgreed]

were in the top 5 of a lot of kids, the trick is to close the top level kids. there is no prize for second place.

 

[wbrpanther]

were in the top 5 of a lot of kids, the trick is to close the top level kids. there is no prize for second place.

You have to get into their top 5 to get into their top 1. This staff is getting Pitt into way more top fives than we have been used to. That at least shows progress.

 

[TD_istheman]

Progress how ? I think that's a load of crap to be honest. I'm not saying Duzz isn't recruiting his butt off, but results are needed, and we are recruiting like Sleepy Wisconsin so far.

 

[Las Panteras]

Progress how ? I think that's a load of crap to be honest. I'm not saying Duzz isn't recruiting his butt off, but results are needed, and we are recruiting like Sleepy Wisconsin so far.

And sleepy Wisconsin won 10 games last year

 

[Pantherman43]

You have to get into their top 5 to get into their top 1. This staff is getting Pitt into way more top fives than we have been used to. That at least shows progress.

You can't win it if you're not in it. But that's hard for some to understand.

 

[joeydavid]

You do realize UW played one of the weakest schedules of all of the power 5 teams, right? They were heavily favored in 8 of those 10 games.

This season will be a better measuring stick. They still have a good number of guaranteed wins but LSU and the divisions cross-over games will get UW's strength of schedule much higher than in the 60s.

And sleepy Wisconsin won 10 games last year

 

[PhPanther1]

Even if you don't get the kid, you make relationships with the coaches at these school. To think that it's all for nothing if you don't get the kid is being short sighted.

 

[bobfree]

Progress how ? I think that's a load of crap to be honest. I'm not saying Duzz isn't recruiting his butt off, but results are needed, and we are recruiting like Sleepy Wisconsin so far.

It's actually the definition of progress.

And last years class was the best we had since at least wannstedt 2008 and probably better after its all said and done.

 

[Teh Teh]

Progress how ? I think that's a load of crap to be honest. I'm not saying Duzz isn't recruiting his butt off, but results are needed, and we are recruiting like Sleepy Wisconsin so far.

Stupidity is quite astounding.

How is it not progress? Would progress not being I his top 5???

 

[thebadby2]

And sleepy Wisconsin won 10 games last year

Interesting that under Sleepy Wisky's rushing O went from 3rd in the country in 2014 to 93rd in 2015. Good thing he had Dave Aranda there to bail his ass out with good defense. Also a good thing for Sleepy that Wisky didn't have to play any of the best 3 teams in its own league last year.

The proof on Sleepy wouldn't come in Year 1 when he inherited a consistently strong program coming off an 11-3 season in which they set a school single-season rushing record, and an Outback Bowl win over Auburn. That;s also a program that BA has his hands all over every year no matter who the coach is. It will be in years 3-5. I bear him no ill will but I don't think he has the head coach stuff. That's just my opinion and I could certainly be wrong. Time will tell.

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

Interesting that under Sleepy Wisky's rushing O went from 3rd in the country in 2014 to 93rd in 2015. Good thing he had Dave Aranda there to bail his ass out with good defense. Also a good thing for Sleepy that Wisky didn't have to play any of the best 3 teams in its own league last year.

The proof on Sleepy wouldn't come in Year 1 when he inherited a consistently strong program coming off an 11-3 season in which they set a school single-season rushing record, and an Outback Bowl win over Auburn. That;s also a program that BA has his hands all over every year no matter who the coach is. It will be in years 3-5. I bear him no ill will but I don't think he has the head coach stuff. That's just my opinion and I could certainly be wrong. Time will tell.

Spot on, Barry Alvarez is still the Head Coach up there and letting someone else up there to do the 18/7 Days Work as Head Coach in Name but oversees his every moves and tells them how to improve.

Once Barry Alvarez is gone then it will fall on the Head Coach to keep winning on Barry's Level?

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

All good comments with many good points going back and forth, Johnny Major's once said, a Football Program has to learn together to crawl, then walk, then run!

Pitt just made changes at Chancellorship, Coaching and Athletic Director and was at least a Walking Program when that happen. I credit Nordenberg and Pederson getting Pitt back into Walking Shape and very important to be Invited to the ACC as well. Both provides Pitt Football the ability to Run in the Future if they continue to build and committ to Winning in Top 25 again. But still up to Pitt to do it!

I see some Jogging and Trotting now on recruiting, but running only happens when 10+ Wins happen more often than 10- Wins, Narduzzi says Pitt is nearer to 10+ than 10-, so i can wait to see that more Progress, but that is all on Narduzzi now?

How Coach Pat develops his Recruits into better teams is the progress that will be judged by his W-L Record?

Still, I see so much better aspects at Pitt's Football Program than in 30 years!

Whether that is progress I will say I see signs of it, but still not there yet, and Coach Pat has to stay keep progress happening that right direction!

 

[TD_istheman]

Look, I have been one of the biggest fans of the new President, new AD, new coach in FB and BB, and think we upgraded across the board. I see similar classes as Sleepy Wisconsin SO FAR, I also think we are getting set up on firm ground and expect our classes to get better and better.

I hope in time Pitt and Duzz decide we can win big here and both make a commitment. A commitment that has been missing from the last regime in my opinion, across the board, they all accepted mediocrity, seems to have changed.

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

Look, I have been one of the biggest fans of the new President, new AD, new coach in FB and BB, and think we upgraded across the board. I see similar classes as Sleepy Wisconsin SO FAR, I also think we are getting set up on firm ground and expect our classes to get better and better.

I hope in time Pitt and Duzz decide we can win big here and both make a commitment. A commitment that has been missing from the last regime in my opinion, across the board, they all accepted mediocrity, seems to have changed.

Well said, and pretty much agree with your views so Pitt Football can become an annual Top 25 Team and Program, still as I say.....So Little Done & So Much More To Do! And still Pitt Is it Too!

 

[Teh Teh]

Look, I have been one of the biggest fans of the new President, new AD, new coach in FB and BB, and think we upgraded across the board. I see similar classes as Sleepy Wisconsin SO FAR, I also think we are getting set up on firm ground and expect our classes to get better and better.

I hope in time Pitt and Duzz decide we can win big here and both make a commitment. A commitment that has been missing from the last regime in my opinion, across the board, they all accepted mediocrity, seems to have changed.

Man... that commitment has already taken place. How can you not see that??? Our recruiting budgets, coaching budgets, facility budgets are all increased and the coaches are high motor and doing well. Nothing can make 5 star recruits suddenly chose us of Alabama or USC just because we did that in the past year though. It's a process and we are clearly in that process. Even if we won the NC 3 straight years we will still lose out to lots of recruits.

People say you cant recruit to Pittsburgh... I disagree it's a beautiful city with one of the deepest football histories anywhere. Friendly people, cheap food, good campus layout and one of the top schools on the planet. Other than a beach nearby we got everything and then some from other places.

We are doing better, Narduzzi is not going for mediocrity, that is obvious. He is all chips in. But we will make gains each year in recruiting, and we are already doing that. The only way to rocket up like you are saying is the Ole miss method of paying all recruits

 

[TD_istheman]

I agree, commitment is there , but we are still middle of the pack, we are just getting up to par, do you see that ? Pitt could be on top again, I can feel it and hope it happens one day.

The last administration screwed over the Pitt fan worse than you either admit to or want to believe. I have faith in this new group and think the future is bright.

 

[QuitCallingMeWanny]

were in the top 5 of a lot of kids, the trick is to close the top level kids. there is no prize for second place.

Captain Obvious

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

This is my view after seeing some other CFB Program grow and go and comeback over the years including Pitt and some others in turmoil over scandals and still survived and back to thriving again.

First Stage:
First Pitt has to win 10+ games in multiple years. This includes being in the Top 25 every year and making the Top 15, 10 and 5 in some other years too. Top 5, 10, 25 Winning over a period of 5 to 10 years attracts 4 & 5 Star Recruits. This can build a Top 25 Team and keep a longer Top 25 Coach and have Heisman Candidates, First Round NFL Picks, and Other Post-Awards more often.

Second Stage:
Still, that can build a top 10-25 Teams but does not always build a Top 25 Program. Every Program needs some Big Boosters, Corporate Sponsors, and more Sold Out Attendance that will develop a Strong Fan Base from those 10 Years of Multiple Winning that must include ACC Coastal Championship, ACC Championship, Big Bowl Wins, and NCS Playoff Recognition if not an Invitation. There are a few Top Coaches that are superb coaches and stays at that Program that no matter why level recruiting they achieve every year.

Third Stage:
Even after the First and Second Stages are achieved. The Third Stage is to then have a Top Recruiting Staff equal to any in CFB. Stable Chancellorship, Head Coach & Staff, and Athletic Director with good judgments and promotions. This includes larger Recruiting Camps, High School Coaching Clinics, Great Alumni Relations and Support! Now one has a Top Head Coach and Top 25 Program and Top 25 Team in all aspects, Rankings, Revenues, Recruiting, Winning, Championships, Attendance.

Eventually, an On Campus Innovative Stadium that is also an Academic Building with easy access by Public Transportation, Parking and nearby Hotel Accommodations. Along with being in a Power Conference that provides Big TV & Streaming Money to stay competitive.

The only way to become a Top Ten Program in Recruiting again is to compete with Bama, OSU, Michigan, USC, Texas, FSU, Florida, LSU, Oklahoma, Notre Dame, and others is to develop not just the Top 10-25 Winning Teams, but have the Head Coaches Stability, and Solid Top 25 Manageable Program Resources to pay for all of it and continue it after rebuilding it

Pitt did it in the past 3 times and can do it again! By no means easy, but can be done.