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Former Tennessee QB Nathan Peterman Drawing Drew Brees Comparison, LINKS For RECRUITS To THINK!

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MOBILE, Ala. — Nathan Peterman is gathering momentum at the Senior Bowl, earning praise from outside analysts and drawing interest from several NFL teams. Peterman confirmed Wednesday that he had a long meeting with the New Orleans Saints, and while no one’s ready to say he’s the next Drew Brees, comparisons are being drawn..........
“Peterman was the most consistently accurate of all the quarterbacks here,” said ESPN’s Todd McShay, who highlighted Peterman’s performance in his pay-site article.
“He’s decisive, moves through his progressions well and gets the ball out on time.”

LINK:
https://www.seccountry.com/tennessee/senior-bowl-nate-peterman-day2
 
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Great find. The Q&A video is awesome. The Alabama TE was impressed with Nate mentioning the closeness with Steelers practices and Steelers help in offseason. Recruiting tools.
 
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I really like Peterman but he shouldn't be mentioned in the same sentence as Drew Brees. One, Brees is a sure-fire NFL HOFer, two, they are totally different players with very different talents, three, Brees' college numbers and achievements were incredible--Nate just had a pretty solid senior year at Pitt.

Again, I like Nate and wish him well, but Nate as a legit starting-caliber NFL QB? I'll believe it when i see it.
 
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I really like Peterman but he shouldn't be mentioned in the same sentence as Drew Brees. One, Brees is a sure-fire NFL HOFer, two, they are totally different players with very different talents, three, Brees' college numbers and achievements were incredible--Nate just had a pretty solid senior year at Pitt.

Again, I like Nate and wish him well, but Nate as a legit starting-caliber NFL QB? I'll believe it when i see it.[/QUOTE. Tom Brady was taken in the 6th round and barely ever started at Michigan. Just pointing out that you just never know.
 
I really like Peterman but he shouldn't be mentioned in the same sentence as Drew Brees. One, Brees is a sure-fire NFL HOFer, two, they are totally different players with very different talents, three, Brees' college numbers and achievements were incredible--Nate just had a pretty solid senior year at Pitt.

Again, I like Nate and wish him well, but Nate as a legit starting-caliber NFL QB? I'll believe it when i see it.
Tom Brady was taken in the 6th round and barely ever started at Michigan. Just pointing out that you never know.
 
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Tom Brady was taken in the 6th round and barely ever started at Michigan. Just pointing out that you never know.
Actually Brady started his junior and senior years at Michigan, went 20-5, put up excellent numbers, and perhaps most impressively, kept all-world QB recruit Drew Henson on the bench despite enormous pressure from the Michigan media, alums and fan base to play the prized recruit over the walk-on. Coming out of Michigan Brady had a big arm and could make all the throws. Nate has some weaknessss in that dept. For instance, the deep ball or the deep out route.

I'm rooting for him, I just don't see it. He may have a nice career as a backup, but I can't see him winning a starting job over healthy competition at some point.
 
I really like Peterman but he shouldn't be mentioned in the same sentence as Drew Brees. One, Brees is a sure-fire NFL HOFer, two, they are totally different players with very different talents, three, Brees' college numbers and achievements were incredible--Nate just had a pretty solid senior year at Pitt.

Again, I like Nate and wish him well, but Nate as a legit starting-caliber NFL QB? I'll believe it when i see it.

Who knows? I think the comparisons were based on some of the things he does well, namely his accuracy. Does he become a HOF QB like Drew Brees? Unlikely. But stranger things have happened.

I compared their last two years of college stats and Peterman stacks up very well to what Brees accomplished at Purdue. Brees threw about 1000 more yards per season (with 200 more attempts per season) but Peterman has the edge in completion percentage, yards per attempt, and QB rating. Nate also threw a similar number of TDs (with the far fewer number of attempts) with less INTs. Neither was a dual threat QB but both were mobile enough to do damage on the ground. Both are intelligent and are solid leaders. Nate also has an advantage in the size department in that he is two inches taller.

I don't know if Peterman becomes a top NFL QB but I wouldn't be surprised if he has a long and successful career in the NFL.
 
Actually Brady started his junior and senior years at Michigan, went 20-5, put up excellent numbers, and perhaps most impressively, kept all-world QB recruit Drew Henson on the bench despite enormous pressure from the Michigan media, alums and fan base to play the prized recruit over the walk-on. Coming out of Michigan Brady had a big arm and could make all the throws. Nate has some weaknessss in that dept. For instance, the deep ball or the deep out route.

I'm rooting for him, I just don't see it. He may have a nice career as a backup, but I can't see him winning a starting job over healthy competition at some point.
I didn't think Brady started that many games. Still lasted till the 6th round.
 
Great find. The Q&A video is awesome. The Alabama TE was impressed with Nate mentioning the closeness with Steelers practices and Steelers help in offseason. Recruiting tools.
Nate was superb in every game and Pitt was blessed to have him, and Narduzzi gets the great credit for doing it, with Chaney & Canada developing his skills with other Pitt Players & Coaches that did their jobs.

This is why I am so high on Coach Pat & Staff. This is true Coaching and finding talent Elsewhere that is sitting on a Bench because so much Talent is in SEC and now at USC as well as Foster at Bama.

Pitt beating Clemson was no fluke either, it was solid, well earned Win all game long against the eventual National Champions.

Why the New OC is so important and Coach Pat has waited and kept that an important aspect of his own making and evaluating. Pitt indeed has Football coach that is not just recruiting but findings Coaches that improves Players into Complete Teams on all 3 Units. This has been seen from Day One in 2015 in a change of attitude. Year two in 2016, on Offense, and both years on Special Teams. No question Defense will improve too, we shall shades of it at times, and missed out from winning 4 games not by much against Great Coaches & Talent at OKST, UNC, VT, and NU.
 
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Why not "Former Pitt QB"? All of his playing time was at Pitt.
Agree, that should be an ACC Boast as well, and plenty to go around. ACC QBs ;ed the ACC into being the best in 2016, but SEC is still the Dominant Conference going on over 10 Years as far as NFL Draft, Recruiting, Attendance and Balance of Good To Top Team in Parity. No shame in admitting it, but the ACC is not far behind.

Pac-12 always has Talent as well and has more parity.

The Big Ten has half there Conference with very good teams, but far more Bottom Feeders and that is not a year to year thing, but has been over a Decade Trend. The have some Richest and Poorest Programs in Wins & Losses within the Big Ten!

The Big-12 has been the Big Frail quite awhile putting top Talent in the NFL dating back to the even before 2000 when Big East 8 Teams used to beat them on per capita NFL basis. They only had 4 of 6 Teams with Winning Records.

SEC is still supreme in Recruiting, a few Big Ten Teams follow, but the ACC is doing doing fine as it continues to climb.
 
The article was from sec website.
The Lair Posters go where the News is a find to mine, and then posted. It was at a SEC Website, but when Peterman gets drafted it will be a Pitt & ACC mention forevermore! I hope he becomes a Steeler's Back-Up in 2017!

Nate was recruited by SEC's UTenn but won at ACC's Pitt!
 
Still trying to get credit for things they don't do. Love the SEC and B1G.


Maybe it was a shot at Tennessee.
The Lair Posters go where the News is a find to mine, and then posted. It was at a SEC Website, but when Peterman gets drafted it will be a Pitt & ACC mention forevermore! I hope he becomes a Steeler's Back-Up in 2017!

Nate was recruited by SEC's UTenn but won at ACC's Pitt!


Agree. I was just answering why he was listed as former Tennessee QB.
 
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Actually Brady started his junior and senior years at Michigan, went 20-5, put up excellent numbers, and perhaps most impressively, kept all-world QB recruit Drew Henson on the bench despite enormous pressure from the Michigan media, alums and fan base to play the prized recruit over the walk-on. Coming out of Michigan Brady had a big arm and could make all the throws. Nate has some weaknessss in that dept. For instance, the deep ball or the deep out route.

I'm rooting for him, I just don't see it. He may have a nice career as a backup, but I can't see him winning a starting job over healthy competition at some point.

Great Coaches know how to find and develop Great Talent! At least in New England, and Dion, Hogan, and others prove it, if I recall before the AFC Champ game, Belinchick mention Aliquippa. There is a Big Player there now in Raines for 2018! Let see how Brown works out too? I do believe Nate Peterman will be great QB someday. When you develop your game and improve like he did, it is not just because you got lucky, the article talked about how others are watching him, his techniques, and follow through and catching the eyes of many Scout's Prizes.

Don't forget Savage is still playing the NFL too. While Hackenberg has just be named a Big Busts Recruit by campus Insider with another Penn State Recruit and not putting them down, just showing more times Coaching Matters over Recruiting Rankings often made by some Cult Dolts East of Pitt every year!

Smart Recruits choose Pitt Is It!
 
Maybe it was a shot at Tennessee.
Agree. I was just answering why he was listed as former Tennessee QB.

I know and posted I liked your own Post! I found another Link To Think for Recruits before they Sign on the Line on SOI Day, if that want to make Big Dollars, and not just Dimes?

Smart Recruits Choose Pitt Is It & Transfers Do Well In The NFL As Well!
 
Also, I don't write them, i just find them to Share to Learn with Lair Posters!
Excerpts:

Grading College Football’s 5-Star Recruits From 2013:
Beasts And Busts:

Four years after the 2013 National Signing Day in college football, which 5-stars recruits were beasts? And who were the forgettable busts?
The 5-star recruit is the ultimate target for every major college football coaching staff and fan base. Yeah, there are hundreds of talented prep players across the country. And then there are the 5-star thoroughbreds on which classes are built. However, the excitement of signing one of these limited gems can sometimes dissipate even before the next recruiting class arrives on campus. The inconvenient Signing Day truth is that even the most ballyhooed recruits occasionally disappoint. Such is the nature of an imprecise science that’s equal parts intoxicating and exasperating. For proof, a retrospective peek at the 42 can’t-miss recruits from 2013 illustrates almost as many busts as beasts.

Listed below, in descending order, are all the 5-star recruits from the 2013 class with a look at just how well each player’s college career panned out.


42. TE Adam Breneman, Penn State
It’s been an interesting four-year journey for Breneman. He was terrific out of the gate in Happy Valley, but recurring knee problems forced him to retire in 2015. However, his hiatus was short-lived. Breneman earned his Penn State degree, transferred to UMass and caught 70 balls for 808 yards and eight touchdowns as a junior last fall.
Worth the Hype?
… Nope (Penn State), Yes (Massachusetts)

33. QB Christian Hackenberg, Penn State
The quintessence of a 5-star bust, Hackenberg looked the part and sounded the part, but never came close to fulfilling expectations. Oh, he played plenty for the Lions, starting 37 games. And his O-line was terrible. But his accuracy and overall development were nearly as bad, though that didn’t dissuade the New York Jets from using a second-round pick on him last spring.
Worth the Hype?
… Nope (Penn State)

8. QB Max Browne, USC
Browne sat and learned behind Cody Kessler for three seasons, patiently waiting for his turn. But when he was surpassed by redshirt freshman Sam Darnold last September, it was clear this story would have a different than expected ending. Browne has moved on to Pittsburgh as a graduate transfer, seeking a final shot to prove he’s a franchise quarterback.
Worth the Hype?
… Not yet.....But At Pitt Today, We Shall See?
LINK To THINK:
https://campusinsiders.com/news/5-star-college-football-recruits-2013-busts-success-01-25-2017/

Great Talent or Lack of Coaching or Recruits that don't work out? I am still high on Hackenberg and funny how he often trashed on BWI by fellow fickle fans of Penn State, that once worshiped him, and now trash Kam Carter for coming to Pitt?

Pitt has Kam Carter a 4 Star Recruits at Penn State but now 3 Star Transfer at Pitt?
We shall see soon?

Smart Recruits Choose Pitt Is It!

Cardinal's Fitz, Jet's Revis, Bill's McCoy, Ram's Donald, Patriot's Lewis Know That Today in the NFL! Not a Guess or Hunch just a Fact!
 
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I know and posted I liked your own Post! I found another Link To Think for Recruits before they Sign on the Line on SOI Day, if that want to make Big Dollars, and not just Dimes?

Smart Recruits Choose Pitt Is It & Transfers Do Well In The NFL As Well!


Gotcha. Sorry i was on my phone trying to read and respond.
 
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I'm rooting for him, I just don't see it. He may have a nice career as a backup, but I can't see him winning a starting job over healthy competition at some point.


There's the rub, out of 32 teams at least 10-12 do not have healthy competition at the QB position. Not saying Nate can go and start day 1 at those teams no problem, but he could work his way into that spot. You don't think he could start at Cleveland? He couldn't work and earn a spot at Denver, Houston, Jacksonville, LA, etc? There are not good QBs at those places. Then think about this, in the next 3 years I bet Brees, Rothlisberger, Brady, will retire. Outside of the USC qb, who is a lock to be on that level?
 
Gotcha. Sorry i was on my phone trying to read and respond.
It is great to see another Recruit that did not choose Pitt at first, now happy he had a Second Chance, and has no regrets whatsoever today.

Every year I have to read the Braggadocios on BWI Claiming and Exclaiming about the Great Recruits that choose Penn State and trashing those that choose Pitt and their own University Higher Ups, Former Recruits that do not work out, and forget Gerry Sandusky was once a Top Recruit, Top of His Class, & Coach, at Penn State too, but it is the Media Narrative to Blame??????

Yet, the Penn State Cult Dolts (Just A Few) can't overcome their own Inferiority as Little Brothers inability to recognize and respect their Big Brother at Pitt still produces more Superior All-Americans, NCAA, NFL and Better Players in the NFL even today!

Big Brother Pitt Leads with College Football BUST on Pedestals In The Hall of Fames.

Little Brother Penn State Leads All CFB FBS Football Programs with NFL BUST$ in the Halls of Shames that do not live up to Penn State Recruiting Rankings Fame!

Smart Recruits Choose Pitt Is It & Little Brother Fans that Brag Every Year Then End Up With More Huffs And Puffs Over Seeing More Penn State NCAA & NFL Bu$t$ & Has To Deal With those Facts!

Smart Recruits Choose Pitt Is It In The 1800s, 1900s, and 2000s!
 
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I view this Article as more proof and testament to Bama's Nick Saban Excellence. Right now, its is like it says in the Article...."At the moment, the SEC is Alabama and Everyone Else"!
Excerpt & again may I point out just 1 Year:
How the ACC used coaches, quarterbacks to overtake the SEC in 2016
The 2016 season has the SEC looking for answers and the ACC learning how to brag again:
The ACC struck out the last time it seriously made noise to compete in football with the SEC. Knowing football money dictates how economics work in college sports, ACC commissioner John Swofford expanded in 2004-05 to add Miami, Virginia Tech Hokies and Boston College Eagles. This was a period when the ACC split 36 games against SEC, which was saddled with several NCAA probations, from 1999 to 2003. Arguments got made by coaches and in the media that the ACC had surpassed the SEC and better positioned than its neighbor for the future due to expansion. Florida State Seminoles 's Bobby Bowden even bragged in 2004 that, by adding Miami, "The state of Florida is going to learn about the ACC" and "the stepbrother is down in Gainesville." Yeah, that didn't happen............Fast forward to today. The ACC -- not the Big Ten, as I wrote earlier this year -- turned out to be the best conference in 2016 thanks largely to coaches and quarterbacks. The question now: Is the ACC better positioned to sustain success than the last time it surpassed the SEC in football? "Now we just need to continue that upward trajectory of staying there, and that's hard to do," Swofford said. "But to stay there, you have to get there first."............................What changed is Clemson Tigers and Florida State became elite at the same time........Clemson-Florida State has supplanted Alabama-LSU as the best annual game in college football. It's a game you feel fairly confident will possess national championship implications every year............With the bar raised, ACC schools such as Miami, Virginia Tech, Louisville Cardinals , Pittsburgh Panthers and even Virginia Cavaliers and Syracuse Orange made promising coaching hires in recent years. Eleven ACC teams finished with a winning record in 2016, including postseason wins over Alabama, Michigan Wolverines and Ohio State Buckeyes..........................The SEC had one passer in 2016 ranked among the top 25 quarterback rating (Dobbs), according to CFBStats.com. The ACC had six (Pittsburgh's Nathan Peterman , North Carolina's Mitch Trubisky , Virginia Tech's Jerod Evans , Watson, Kaaya and Jackson)...............The SEC has plucked a few assistants from the ACC this offseason. Mississippi State Bulldogs hired away Louisville defensive coordinator Todd Grantham. LSU got Pittsburgh offensive coordinator Matt Canada, who spent the past four years at two ACC jobs..........

LINK:
http://www.cbssports.com/college-fo...hes-quarterbacks-to-overtake-the-sec-in-2016/
 
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More praise on Peterman & now Adma Bisnowaty too:
Excerpts:

Peterman passed for 2,855 yards with 27 touchdowns compared to just seven interceptions while leading the ACC with a passing efficiency of 163.4 in 2016. He has been earning rave reviews from numerous NFL scouts this week for his performances at Senior Bowl practices.

From the North practice, Nathan Peterman is the best QB out there. Hands down.

— Matt Miller (@nfldraftscout) January 25, 2017

QB Nate Peterman of Pitt is drawing deserved, increased buzz @seniorbowl - Long process, expect his momentum to continue as Draft approaches

— Charles Davis (@CFD22) January 25, 2017

North practice is a wrap. Peterman remains the standout at QB. Made a throw during team drills that drew an audible reaction from the crowd.

— Mark Schofield (@MarkSchofield) January 25, 2017


Adam Bisnowaty Get Used To Hearing It On Sunday:

Coming off his second consecutive season as a first-team All-ACC selection at offensive tackle, Bisnowaty has also been working hard to impress throughout the week in numerous drills against some of the best defensive line prospects for the upcoming NFL Draft. Bisnowaty finished his Pitt career with 43 career starts and protected Peterman’s blindside for the entire 2016 campaign, during which Pitt’s offensive line allowed only 10 sacks to rank tied for third in the FBS.

A couple of nice reps from OTs in 1-on-1s. The first, Taylor Moton out of Western Michigan, and then Pitt's Adam Bisnowaty. pic.twitter.com/8MszqjT0bA
— Joe Buscaglia (@JoeBuscaglia) January 25, 2017


Pitt OT Adam Bisnowaty just put Iowa DT Jaleel Johnson on his tail.
— Eric Edholm (@Eric_Edholm) January 24, 2017

Pitt Players Hall of Fame History Continues In 2000s:


This marks the first time that two Pitt offensive players will play in the Senior Bowl since 2008, when offensive tackles Jeff Otah and Mike McGlynn appeared before embarking on professional careers. The Panthers most recently had two players at the 2009 Senior Bowl, which featured a pair of Pitt representatives in linebacker Scott McKillop and long snapper Mark Estermyer.

Peterman and Bisnowaty will join an accomplished list of 59 former Panthers that have played in the Senior Bowl. That list includes Pro Football Hall of Fame inductees Joe Schmidt, Rickey Jackson, Dan Marino, Chris Doleman and Curtis Martin, along with other Pitt all-time greats such as Jim Covert, Ruben Brown and Aaron Donald.
LINK:
http://www.pittsburghpanthers.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/012617aaa.html

SMART RECRUITS CHOOSE PITT IS IT!
 
Nate's stats compare favorably to Brady's at Michigan as well.
His arm doesn't. Hey, I'm all for Nate's success, but the fact that we have guys talking about him in the same sentence with Brady and Brees is honestly laughable. It really is. Nate's arm isn't even in the same universe as Brees or Brady. I mean, do you guys have eyes? You're talking about 2 of the best NFL QBs in history. When Nate throws the deep out, you could time it with a sundial. When those guys throw it, it's a laser beam. You think you can float a marshmallow out there to the wide hash against NFL DBs and get away with it? What about the deep throws? Nate struggled his whole time at Pitt with the deep ball. NFL QBs have to be able to push the ball deep with accuracy numerous times every game.

Nate is much more likely to be Alex VanPelt than Tom Brady or Drew Brees. Hey, I hope he's the second coming of Tom Brady or Brees, I really do--but the reality is it is highly unlikely that he ever amounts to much more than a long-term backup in the NFL, which by itself would be one hell of an achievement for a guy with his skillset and background.
 
Also, I don't write them, i just find them to Share to Learn with Lair Posters!
Excerpts:

Grading College Football’s 5-Star Recruits From 2013:
Beasts And Busts:


33. QB Christian Hackenberg, Penn State
The quintessence of a 5-star bust, Hackenberg looked the part and sounded the part, but never came close to fulfilling expectations. Oh, he played plenty for the Lions, starting 37 games. And his O-line was terrible. But his accuracy and overall development were nearly as bad, though that didn’t dissuade the New York Jets from using a second-round pick on him last spring.
Worth the Hype?
… Nope (Penn State)
I am no fan of Christian Hackenburg as an NFL QB, but they are calling him a "bust" as a 5 star prospect? Talk about looking foolish. The guy didn't win the Heisman, but he started 37 games and was a 2nd round pick. That is most definitely panning out.
 
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His arm doesn't. Hey, I'm all for Nate's success, but the fact that we have guys talking about him in the same sentence with Brady and Brees is honestly laughable. It really is. Nate's arm isn't even in the same universe as Brees or Brady. I mean, do you guys have eyes? You're talking about 2 of the best NFL QBs in history. When Nate throws the deep out, you could time it with a sundial. When those guys throw it, it's a laser beam. You think you can float a marshmallow out there to the wide hash against NFL DBs and get away with it? What about the deep throws? Nate struggled his whole time at Pitt with the deep ball. NFL QBs have to be able to push the ball deep with accuracy numerous times every game.

Nate is much more likely to be Alex VanPelt than Tom Brady or Drew Brees. Hey, I hope he's the second coming of Tom Brady or Brees, I really do--but the reality is it is highly unlikely that he ever amounts to much more than a long-term backup in the NFL, which by itself would be one hell of an achievement for a guy with his skillset and background.

Im not saying he will be Brees or Brady, just using their stats as a comparison. I don't agree that he lacks starter quality skills. I think quality backup is his floor. His stock wouldn't be rising this quickly if he was the next AVP or Tyler Palko.
 
I am no fan of Christian Hackenburg as an NFL QB, but they are calling him a "bust" as a 5 star prospect? Talk about looking foolish. The guy didn't win the Heisman, but he started 37 games and was a 2nd round pick. That is most definitely panning out.
I guy could make a lifetime of Money by staying just 3 years. I thought he did well in CFB under O'Brien but Franklin had no idea how to coach him up! they mock him on BWI even though they praised him when committed. We shall see?
 
Nate has a pretty good chance of being successful at the the next level. Whether that's as a starter or a competent backup remains to be seen.

This season we witnessed a QB who was able to elevate his game because he listened and studied and really paid attention to the things he once struggled to do and he worked on those things and kept improving. Peterman has really shown improvement in every area. True, he still is a work in progress with his deep ball (unlike Savage was when he finished at Pitt) but his accuracy has gotten significantly better this past season as well as his decision making (and he a bit more mobile than Savage is).

His improved focus this season and his attention to detail reminds me a little of Brady and Peyton. Just to be clear, I am not at all suggesting he will one day reach their level, just that he has a healthy internal drive for self improvement... which has allowed him to keep getting better. And who knows... maybe it will allow him to continue to keep getting better to the point where one day he finds himself staring on an NFL team.
 
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Nate has a pretty good chance of being successful at the the next level. Whether that's as a starter or a competent backup remains to be seen.

This season we witnessed a QB who was able to elevate his game because he listened and studied and really paid attention to the things he once struggled to do and he worked on those things and kept improving. Peterman has really shown improvement in every area. True, he still is a work in progress with his deep ball (unlike Savage was when he finished at Pitt) but his accuracy has gotten significantly better this past season as well as his decision making (and he a bit more mobile than Savage is).

His improved focus this season and his attention to detail reminds me a little of Brady and Peyton. Just to be clear, I am not at all suggesting he will one day reach their level, just that he has a healthy internal drive for self improvement... which has allowed him to keep getting better. And who knows... maybe it will allow him to continue to keep getting better to the point where one day he finds himself staring on an NFL team.
The biggest difference for Nate this year was his confidence. He was a confident leader on the field, this was his team, his offense and it showed. That said, his physical abilities, especially arm strength, are marginal at best by NFL standards. I wish him the best, any spot on any NFL roster would be a huge accomplishment for him or any college QB. It is truly an exclusive club.

One thing is for sure, the transfer to Pitt was a very good business decision for him.
 
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I guy could make a lifetime of Money by staying just 3 years. I thought he did well in CFB under O'Brien but Franklin had no idea how to coach him up! they mock him on BWI even though they praised him when committed. We shall see?
It had nothing to do with coaching him up. When Franklin got to PSU, he had 7 O lineman, 2 of which were converted D linemen. 3 O lineman from his first year are in the NFL. It was by far the biggest weakness. He also had A Robinson at wr. That was all gone his second year. Those are simple facts. If that was the case, then why haven't all the QB gurus, including Peyton Manning, been able to help his accuracy issues?
 
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"Hotshoe, post: 1787328, member: 6356"]It had nothing to do with coaching him up.
I agree to disagree, Coaching Up is always important with or without an OL. It did not happen. Hackenberg was better as a Freshmen under O'Brien and they did not have great OL and won many games in the 4th Quarter. I don't mind if you differ.

When Franklin got to PSU, he had 7 O lineman, 2 of which were converted D linemen. 3 O lineman from his first year are in the NFL. It was by far the biggest weakness. He also had A Robinson at wr.
Agree in part but not all, how good were those OL and now in the NFL right now? Robinson was great in College and showed some signs of being Good in the NFL, but this year as he is covered now, he really was Non-Factor the last 6 to 7 games, if you check on it, you will see I am right. I did check on his progress this year. Started great and Ended like dud. My bigger point is Hack had O'Brien!

That was all gone his second year. Those are simple facts.
The other simple fact is PSU OC was fired by Franklin! Hackenberg often played injured, had good WR Godwin and Hamilton, OL was not Fired but left Franklin. Hackenberg went in the NFL 2nd Round the simple fact that is not bad and NFL thought he was worth it.

If that was the case, then why haven't all the QB gurus, including Peyton Manning, been able to help his accuracy issues?
It is just his second year, he has the arm, and many said he had accuracy issues, but still Franklin's DC was fired and O'Brien was the difference as I see it, but does not me right either. Clearly, Hack did not care for Franklin at the end of his last season. If Hack is out of NFL within the next 3 years then your opinion will hold more water than my own, and not wrong either right now,m just differ.

Hackenberg a 5 Star QB and was loyal to PSU at its Darkest Time, but the PSU Fans turned on him and still do not respect him as much as I think they should.

Stats All 3 Years:
http://www.cfbstats.com/2015/team/539/index.html
 
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