From what I'm hearing ... the Gary Parrish report ...

[DT_PITT]

... looks pretty true, and the search committee was learning that there wasn't much interest because of expectations (as Parrish reported).

I also heard hat Enfield was offered, and was probably #1 choice, but it looks like he turned it down.

 

[DC_Area_Panther]

We would be better off giving the job to Brandon Knight.

 

[iMissTheOldDayss]

DT please say something positive about this so I don't break down in tears right now

 

[33pitt99]

... looks pretty true, and the search committee was learning that there wasn't much interest because of expectations (as Parrish reported).

I also heard hat Enfield was offered, and was probably #1 choice, but it looks like he turned it down.

Is it actually possible that no younger coach looking to move up wants this job? I just find that hard to believe. Have to wonder what Jamie might be telling folks. Could it be that Barnes is a real ahole to work for and he's warning guys about him?

 

[King Of All Message Boards]

DT please say something positive about this so I don't break down in tears right now

Jay Wright just finally made a final four. Oh...wait....

 

[PittPoker]

I just can't or don't want to ever imagine Bill Hillgrove announcing Stallings at the Pete. Or see him walking up and down the bench. So unbelievable.

 

[Panthervision]

Hell, hire Brian Gregory. He is better than Crap Stallings

 

[Chaos]

... looks pretty true, and the search committee was learning that there wasn't much interest because of expectations (as Parrish reported).

I also heard hat Enfield was offered, and was probably #1 choice, but it looks like he turned it down.

Expectations by the fans? The athletic department? Don't all fans have high expectations when their coach is paid millions? No other school has expectations besides Pitt? This sounds ridiculous if true.

 

[iMissTheOldDayss]

Jay Wright just finally made a final four. Oh...wait....

Ok bro you got me I had 7 to many the other night and had a brain mishap now you're just hurting my feelings

 

[King Of All Message Boards]

Ok bro you got me I had 7 to many the other night and had a brain mishap now you're just hurting my feelings

Sorry man. I'm a ball breaker. No mean spirited intent here. It's just my wiring.

 

[iMissTheOldDayss]

Sorry man. I'm a ball breaker. No mean spirited intent here. It's just my wiring.

lol we're all good

 

[mac_rmm]

Seriously, Brandin would have been better. Sendek or Greenberg would have been better because at least they didn't screw with a current Pitt players future.

We go from Miller to this in course of a few days. I thought Pitting was over when Duzz was hired but now I don't know. This is such a "Pitt" hire.

 

[LeftCoastPanther]

I'm not buying coaches were scared off because of the fans' high expectations. Sounds like a cop out.

 

[33pitt99]

I'm not buying coaches were scared off because of the fans' high expectations. Sounds like a cop out.

Maybe not the fans, maybe the meddling AD's....

 

[KGSB Panther]

I'm not buying coaches were scared off because of the fans' high expectations. Sounds like a cop out.

Exactly. Shoot, give me two millions and I'll sacrifice. I'll take the coaching job. Sure, the mean posters on the message boards will criticize my coaching skills and will say mean things about me...and I'll cry all the way to the bank.

 

[SoufOaklin4Life]

Maybe not the fans, maybe the meddling AD's....

When a very successful and well respected coach voluntarily walks away for a lateral at best, but actually worse job...
It's not because things are so great and attractive to others, potentially.

 

[DruidTM]

Is Noel Mazzone still available...?

 

[Jpripper88]

I really think the media history and Dixon being a great guy is killing Pitt on this if candidates are really thinking this. The media has continued to put Pitt in the light of a program who is well coached and over achieving despite evidence to the contrary. Odd for good media to be hurting Pitt, but that might be what is happening.

 

[InfoManiac]

Expectations by the fans? The athletic department? Don't all fans have high expectations when their coach is paid millions? No other school has expectations besides Pitt? This sounds ridiculous if true.

Jamie wasn't perfect but If you look at what Dixon did accomplish: 73% winning percentage, 3 national coach of year awards, best winning percentage in BE history, favorable head-to-head records against all but a few coaches , only 1 out of 13 seasons with less than 20 wins (and that year was 19 wins), majority of years making NCAA tourney,..etc.

I think it is hard for outsiders to believe that if they took the job they would need to exceed that level of production to stay in good graces with the fan base and local media.

 

[frydaze]

Jamie wasn't perfect but If you look at what Dixon did accomplish: 73% winning percentage, 3 national coach of year awards, best winning percentage in BE history, favorable head-to-head records against all but a few coaches , only 1 out of 13 seasons with less than 20 wins (and that year was 19 wins), majority of years making NCAA tourney,..etc.

I think it is hard for outsiders to believe that if they took the job they would need to exceed that level of production to stay in good graces with the fan base and local media.

When you look at what Dixon did compared to Stallings you just have to say WOW.

Stallings:

23 years as Head Coach
7nit
9ncaa
2sw16.
Won mvc twice
Career .616.
Finished 2nd in SEC 3 times in 17 seasons.

 

[DT_PITT]

... looks pretty true, and the search committee was learning that there wasn't much interest because of expectations (as Parrish reported).

I also heard hat Enfield was offered, and was probably #1 choice, but it looks like he turned it down.

There's been a number of replies to this, and the best way to answer is to say that Jamie Dixon is very well respecting in the College coaching community. The coaching community was always very respectful of the success Dixon brought to Pitt.

But there no evidence Dixon trash talked Pitt at all.

 

[SteelBowl70]

The issue with Jamie is that the program peaked in 2009 and was going downhill. Look at his record the last 5 years. It's not at level worthly of a top paid coach. Tomlin would be fired with that record. BLysma was fired and won a cup in 2009. I realize those are pro coaches but the idea that expectations were too high is absurd to me.

Pitt won 45 conference games the last years. That's .500. What fans of any Big 5 program are going to accept that?

 

[SoufOaklin4Life]

The issue with Jamie is that the program peaked in 2009 and was going downhill. Look at his record the last 5 years. It's not at level worthly of a top paid coach. Tomlin would be fired with that record. BLysma was fired and won a cup in 2009. I realize those are pro coaches but the idea that expectations were too high is absurd to me.

Pitt won 45 conference games the last years. That's .500. What fans of any Big 5 program are going to accept that?

So let's hire a coach who peaked in 2006 at a lower pinnacle, and has won at half the rate of Dixon since?

Makes sense

 

[SteelBowl70]

If they can't get anybody better than Stallings, then give BK a run at it. At least it will keep the recruits and team next year could be very good and then who knows.

 

[mdbrett97]

If they can't get anybody better than Stallings, then give BK a run at it. At least it will keep the recruits and team next year could be very good and then who knows.

If they hire Stallings, it won't be because they couldn't get anybody better. It will be because they made a bad hire.

 

[InfoManiac]

The issue with Jamie is that the program peaked in 2009 and was going downhill. Look at his record the last 5 years. It's not at level worthly of a top paid coach. Tomlin would be fired with that record. BLysma was fired and won a cup in 2009. I realize those are pro coaches but the idea that expectations were too high is absurd to me.

Pitt won 45 conference games the last years. That's .500. What fans of any Big 5 program are going to accept that?

Chuck Noll took the steelers job when I was 5 in 1969. Steelers have had only 3 coaches since I was old enough to notice. None were fired. 3 coaches in 46 years and counting. I'll bet there were a few bad 5 year stretches in the last 46 years and there were probably some corresponding improvements. It's all cyclical.

What you mention is certainly a way to deal with a 5 year stretch of average performance....look for someone better. The issue you need to understand is that many coaches apparently feel the Pitt job has more downside than upside and even throwing lots of money their way still doesn't make them want to quit their current job.

Someone will take it eventually though.

 

[Harve74]

If they hire Stallings, it won't be because they couldn't get anybody better. It will be because they made a bad hire.

Unfortunately, people who work in the field say it's both.

 

[PittPoker]

Unfortunately, people who work in the field say it's both.

So it is Stallings huh?

 

[UPitt '89]

Unfortunately, people who work in the field say it's both.

Brandin wanted it.

He's better.

Sendek wanted it. Even *HE* is better.

Lonergan lobbied for it. He is better.


There's no way they can say that Stallings is the only one who wanted it.... since better candidates expressed interest in it.

 

[PittPoker]

Brandin wanted it.

He's better.

Sendek wanted it. Even *HE* is better.

Lonergan lobbied for it. He is better.


There's no way they can say that Stallings is the only one who wanted it.... since better candidates expressed interest in it.

Sendek and Stallings are both equal - equally bad. Greenberg I guess would be a slight improvement but not much.

 

[InfoManiac]

I think all of this news is a little premature especially considering the conflicting reports. We probably need to wait until Monday or later to get good information.