future schedules
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When looking at spots for PSU, recall that they have UVA, Cuse/WV. Long ago it was noted that PSU was filling its OOC schedule well into th 2020's.
I would love to see us play MD if PSU continues its hiding.
Seriously, do you believe Penn State is hiding from Pitt? Could it just be that they have an interest in playing old rivals in addition to Pitt, and they only have so many slots available. The smart thing to do would be for the athletic directors of Pitt, Penn State, West Virginia, Maryland, and Virginia Tech to get together and figure out a round robin way for those schools to play at least 2 games against each other every year, leaving one slot for the Youngstown States on West Virginia's schedule since WV plays 9 conference games, and 2 slots on other schedules.. That way everyone wins.
I believe West Virginia's first priority would be to get Virginia Tech on the schedule every year, but that isn't practical either. Penn State now plays Maryland in conference, and Pitt plays Virginia Tech. Put all that into a computer and I'm sure a way could be found to preserve some rivalry games in spite of league affiliation.
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You are clearly some combination of a) younger than 35, and b) not familiar with the football landscape in Pennsylvania. Pitt-PSU was for decades one of the 5 to 10 best college football rivalries in the country. This is not exaggeration or hyperbole. The outcome often had a drastic effect on the hunt for the national championship, or at least a double-digit win season. This rivalry's history is storied, and to think Ped State is simply trying to work in old rivals WVU, Maryland, and VT is to completely miss what a historic rival is.
I'm actually an old guy, and I remember the great Pitt teams of the 1970s which challenged Penn State for regional supremacy, but I believe what you are seeing today is many of the people running things at Penn State weren't even alive when those games took place so that has faded into obscurity for them. PSU moved to a conference in the 1990s. That's two generations of college players ago. I realize that has grated on old time Pitt fans to a large degree, but if you look at it from their perspective you see something else.
They realize that they have a lock on the vast majority of college football fans in their state, and they aren't anxious to help change that situation. They also see some value in rekindling relations with programs in neighboring states because there were great rivalries for them there in the past too. I'll be honest.... I grew up detesting both Pitt and Penn State. We didn't like Syracuse too much either, but it was hard to hate them because half of their administration was from West Virginia. But the Backyard Brawl was a storied rivalry too (104 games in all), and although it has possibly lost some appeal at both schools, it will be good to get it back on track again. For WV fans, it is a nearby away game and for Pitt it virtually guarantees a near sellout, and the games are usually closely contested. Your fans have an easy trip down I-79 to get here too.
If you haven't been to Morgantown lately, you will find it a very different place than the one you visited in 2007. Development is taking place virtually everywhere here, and we have some nice restaurants, pubs, and other amenities. 7 years is a long time for this old guy, and I hope I live long enough to see the games, but I think you will enjoy your visits here as we do when we play Pitt. I like partying at Station Square and taking the boat to the games. Maybe by that time there won't be anybody left around here who remembers the little addition to your Sweet Caroline song. LOL
I'll make another observation too, and I'm not trying to make anybody mad by doing this. I think things changed radically for Pitt back in the early 80s when they hired Foge Fazio. Foge was a nice guy, and like sevaral good football coaches he came from West Virginia, but Foge was not a good coach, and we were fortunate to have Don Nehlen while you guys were stuck with Foge. The Pitt program has never really recovered from what Foge did to it, the several coaches between then and now not withstanding.
They realize that they have a lock on the vast majority of college football fans in their state, and they aren't anxious to help change that situation. They also see some value in rekindling relations with programs in neighboring states because there were great rivalries for them there in the past too. I'll be honest.... I grew up detesting both Pitt and Penn State. We didn't like Syracuse too much either, but it was hard to hate them because half of their administration was from West Virginia. But the Backyard Brawl was a storied rivalry too (104 games in all), and although it has possibly lost some appeal at both schools, it will be good to get it back on track again. For WV fans, it is a nearby away game and for Pitt it virtually guarantees a near sellout, and the games are usually closely contested. Your fans have an easy trip down I-79 to get here too.
If you haven't been to Morgantown lately, you will find it a very different place than the one you visited in 2007. Development is taking place virtually everywhere here, and we have some nice restaurants, pubs, and other amenities. 7 years is a long time for this old guy, and I hope I live long enough to see the games, but I think you will enjoy your visits here as we do when we play Pitt. I like partying at Station Square and taking the boat to the games. Maybe by that time there won't be anybody left around here who remembers the little addition to your Sweet Caroline song. LOL
I'll make another observation too, and I'm not trying to make anybody mad by doing this. I think things changed radically for Pitt back in the early 80s when they hired Foge Fazio. Foge was a nice guy, and like sevaral good football coaches he came from West Virginia, but Foge was not a good coach, and we were fortunate to have Don Nehlen while you guys were stuck with Foge. The Pitt program has never really recovered from what Foge did to it, the several coaches between then and now not withstanding.
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I don't think psu is hiding from pitt, I just think it's a higher priority for pitt than psu. ACC needs to follow the big 12 and big 10 and play 9 conference games.. Not sure what sec or pac 10 does. All P5 conferences need to do this and quickly. Regarding pitt/psu series, sadly psu doesn't need it, that's just the truth. Yes it is cool for the fans and I wish we played wvu and psu every year but it's just not a priority for Sandusky University..
Pitt needs to get rid of the fbs garbage and asap.. It does nothing, NOTHING, for anyone.
Pitt needs to get rid of the fbs garbage and asap.. It does nothing, NOTHING, for anyone.
Uh yes I do. Also, do you really think teams from 3 different conferences recruiting in the same footprint and who never could agree on anything when they were more closely aligned, will agree to set aside dcades of animosity and miraculously agree to play in a round robin?
PSU under Franklin is making no bones about "dominating the state". That slogan works much better when you can actually do it on the field. PSU lost to MD last year, temple this, who knows who is next. I think most of us have learned that Franklin is a bullsh!tter...he does not want to tarnish his cred by actually having to "put up".
Just like the 107 strong line, PSU is learning the hard way that it is no longer among the elite programs in terms of performance.
MD just lost to Bowling Green...think they are looking for challenging matchups in the future.
College football is A BUSINESS....enhancing your competitors' position in the market is not "a smart move" under PSU's way of thinking.
Yes, but happily we do not think like the folks at PSU...if we did, our former President, Ad and Director of Security would have been tried, convicted and executed by now instead of still awaiting trial 4 years after they were indicted.
When does that home and home with Marshall take place? During the same run when Pitt plays PSU and Okie State?
Please tell me how exactly Penn State and Va Tech are considered "old rivals" when they've never played each other?
PSU is so focused on renewing all their old Eastern rivalries they just added Idaho.
PSU is so focused on renewing all their old Eastern rivalries they just added Idaho.
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We got them next year when we have Sandusky U and the cowboys. Don't repay the favor until 2020, Notre Dame and marshall with 2 other teams undetermined. (actually we have Richmond scheduled in 2020 but we are getting out of that game, no way does this new AD allow Richmond and marshall on the same schedule, back to back.)
Okay... So, if I have this correct, Pitt will play...
v. Rhode Island
v. Marshall
v. Penn State
@ Oklahoma State
...as their non-conference opponents next season? Does Pitt play Clemson next season as well?
Future schedules is an option under "More" on top of home page. Cut/pasted
2016 9/3 Villanova Heinz Field FCS
2016 9/10 Penn State Heinz Field Big Ten
2016 9/17 Oklahoma State Stillwater, OK Big 12
2016 10/1 Marshall Heinz Field C-USA
2016 TBA Duke Heinz Field ACC
2016 TBA Georgia Tech Heinz Field ACC
2016 TBA Syracuse Heinz Field ACC
2016 TBA Virginia Tech Heinz Field ACC
2016 TBA Miami (Fla.) Miami, FL ACC
2016 TBA North Carolina Chapel Hill, NC ACC
2016 TBA Virginia Charlottesville, VA ACC
2016 TBA Clemson Clemson, SC ACC
Even before took many trips to Morgantown for the brawl and just to party. Never was impressed with the actual city, but even then I really enjoyed the campus.
I agree. Sadly, that enhancing your competitors position is endemic to all of college sports these days. It has become all about the money. Still, there are many who donate large sums of money to these schools who want to see some semblance of tradition in scheduling. Hopefully these folks will have enough influence in the future to keep some of these great matchups on the schedules.
I'm too old to see who the future will play out for college sports, but my own opinion is that eventually that drive to have the most money will cause the really big programs... Texas, Michigan, Ohio State, Alabama, Florida, Penn State if they are still hanging around, etc. to form their own league so they won't have to share as much money with others. When and if that happens, there will be a lot of old matchups on future schedules because for everyone else that's left, that will be where is the money.
