Teasdale is transferring from Penn State. First, do we want him (4 time state champion!!!)? Second, do we have any chance of getting this kid?
Gavin Teasdale
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Could be a short term fix but a long term risk.
I don’t know that he is a take, look at him must recently. 1. Having issues making weight at the lower weight (scuffle) 2. Clearly he’s battling some issue, do we want to take that risk when we have great recruits coming. Maybe wound walk on. Most scholarship money seems to be accounted for.
I wish him the best no matter what he decides. But he seems more of a risk at this point.
I don’t know that he is a take, look at him must recently. 1. Having issues making weight at the lower weight (scuffle) 2. Clearly he’s battling some issue, do we want to take that risk when we have great recruits coming. Maybe wound walk on. Most scholarship money seems to be accounted for.
I wish him the best no matter what he decides. But he seems more of a risk at this point.
Teasdale is not a 125er and would have been at 133 next year if he had stayed.
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The word out of PSU is if you bring him in you don't want to drug test him, Gavin leaving was not his decision.
Tough call the kid is super talented but is obviously going through some things right now. Also the weight class is an issue. Micky is your 133 for the foreseeable future and you have Mathews at 141 for next year. Sure Gavin is a better prospect but due you want to risk the scholarship money on that kid when you have good options at his weight classes already? idk tough decision for coaches glad I dont have to make it
If Gavin gets himself cleaned up and goes to rehab, his coming to Pitt is a no brainer. PSU is apparently throwing Gavin under the bus instead of getting him the help he needs. Maybe this will hurt PSU with the recruitment of local kids.
Penn State put a plan in place for him and he failed at almost every step.
Also, this will not change anything for them in recruiting they are the standard and now with NLWC having freestyle success on the world stage will help them even more.
All depends on what their plan was. Their plan seemed to be that Gavin was to wrestle 3 weeks after dropping out of first semester. He needed rehab before considering his return to wrestling. He did not get rehab in their plan. That would not be a plan for someone with drug problems.
He had the opportunity to go to rehab but chose to go back to school and Penn State did a lot to help him. You can not force someone to make the life changes he needs to make.
I hope you are correct, but Cael had Gavin entered in a tournament soon after the first semester ended. Why would he be wrestling if he refused rehab. It should have been “no wrestling” until rehab finished.
Relapses happen. Addiction is a serious issue that cannot be wished away. Those of us who havent experienced it ourselves dont have a pot to piss in. We cant understand it. Ive had a friend die from this scourge, and although I dont have personal experience with that level of addiction, I do understand what it means and how it is an extremely difficult thing to defeat. We have a great wrestler here who is facing the most difficult opponent of his life. Every positive step forward is 100x more difficult than giving into the cravings. I hope he finds a way forward that can work for him.
The goal was structure and getting him back wrestling was supposed to be a big part of that structure. It clearly didn't work but the hope is now that this may be a something that pushes Gavin to get help.
What kind of plan for drug addiction doesn’t include rehab? No wonder the plan did not work. Sounds like the same plan that PSU used to help Andrew Long when he transferred to PSU with severe addiction problems. Put him on the mat before you deal with the addiction. Long won PSU a NCAA championship, but Long ended up in jail because no one dealt with his addiction.
To me, he is both a risk and a take.
I think we have some good recruits coming in, but no one with his pedigree. I was surprised — and disappointed — to see the latest Intermat rankings of high schoolers by weight classes. McGill was the only one of our recruits ranked in the top ten in his weight class. Because Cooley is a post-grad, he wasn’t ranked. None of the others were ranked. I assume the PIAA and WPIAL are having a down year as far as elite talent, but that is understandable after so many years of having lots of kids ranked at or near the top.
Unfortunately, Teasdale projects to two weight classes where we look to be strong next season. I think with Micky and Cole, both 133 and 141 are in good shape next year. So, I doubt Gavin would be interested in him unless he walks on. But, my understanding is that he had absolutely no interest in Pitt when he was in high school. I doubt that has changed much.
I think we have some good recruits coming in, but no one with his pedigree. I was surprised — and disappointed — to see the latest Intermat rankings of high schoolers by weight classes. McGill was the only one of our recruits ranked in the top ten in his weight class. Because Cooley is a post-grad, he wasn’t ranked. None of the others were ranked. I assume the PIAA and WPIAL are having a down year as far as elite talent, but that is understandable after so many years of having lots of kids ranked at or near the top.
Unfortunately, Teasdale projects to two weight classes where we look to be strong next season. I think with Micky and Cole, both 133 and 141 are in good shape next year. So, I doubt Gavin would be interested in him unless he walks on. But, my understanding is that he had absolutely no interest in Pitt when he was in high school. I doubt that has changed much.
You know there are many different forms of rehab? Did you stop to think he might have been part of an outpatient rehab? Not every person does a long term inpatient rehab process. Addiction treatment is a very individual process and there is not one course that works for everyone. Some people do a short inpatient detox followed up with outpatient rehab. It also possible that wrestling was part of his rehab program. Having a focus to keep an addict busy is often useful in recovery. So it sounds like you have no clue what you are talking about other then you want to blame Penn state.
It might help this kid to transfer far far away. Perhaps a change in scenery and a coach who really wants to help him might save him. The good news is that there is top level wrestling in places like North Dakota and Iowa
Marstellar reportedly had a similar problem and appears to have straightened himself out at Lock Haven. Maybe the best thing for Teasdale would be to go somewhere like Edinboro.
Actually I know a lot about rehab, but that is not why I spoke. The poster I responded to had stated that Gavin had refused rehab. If he had not done rehab, why was he still scheduled to wrestle? Rehab should be the first step. The addict has to accept responsibility of their addiction before moving on to other activities such as wrestling in matches. I am not talking about practice.
I don't know the kids exact situation or what plan was put forth to help him, but one thing that seems evident is that the plan doesn't appear to have worked (at least to date) ...... the kid needs to get help badly and hopefully he will get better whether he ever wrestles again or not .... it's a chronic illness and tough to overcome ...... good luck to him !
