GOLDEN Gone
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Please---why?With his connections to the Miami area I wouldn't be surprised if they make a run at Wannstedt.
Well there are certainly lots of people here who have extolled his virtues over the years. If he's anywhere near as good as what some of the folks here claim, I think the correct question isn't "why", it's "why not".
Miami fires coach Al Golden after program's worst loss: 4 things to know
t seems that Miami's 58-0 loss to Clemson on Saturday was the final straw. The school announced Sunday that Al Golden has been relieved of his duties as football coach.
"Coach Golden has led our program through some very difficult times and he has done so with class, integrity and a true desire to see our students succeed on the field, in the classroom and in the community." Miami athletic director Blake James said in a statement.
"However, we have a proud tradition of excellence at Miami, not just in football but in all sports, and we want to compete for ACC and national championships. I simply believe that now is the time to bring the Hurricane Family together and rally behind our young men."
Golden went 32-25 in his five seasons with the Hurricanes, never finishing with more than nine wins in a season. He led the team to two bowl games, but for a fan base that expects national titles, it simply wasn't enough.
"On behalf of my family I want to thank the University of Miami for a tremendous opportunity," Golden said. "I believe in what we are doing and how we are doing it and we have some outstanding young men in our football program. Though this moment is difficult, we wish the Canes the best of luck going forward."
Assistant coach Larry Scott, Miami's tight ends coach and running game coordinator, will serve as interim coach until the end of the season.
Here are four things to know about Golden's dismissal, and where Miami goes from here:
1. Golden never met expectations at Miami: When Golden first took over the Hurricanes program, coming to South Beach from Temple, it was in the midst of an NCAA scandal. The school self-imposed sanctions that kept it out of bowl games and limited its scholarships.
That bought him some time following a 13-11 record in his first two years, but the beginning of the downfall was the 2013 season. Miami started the 7-0 and reached No. 7 in the AP Top 25. At that point, everyone was proclaiming that The U was back ... but it wasn't. The Canes lost four of their final six games, including a bowl game, and finished the season 9-4.
Still, there was reason to hope that Golden and Miami could take the next step in 2014 ... but they didn't, instead finishing the year 6-7. A slow start to the 2015 season included losses to Cincinnati and the worst defeat in program history, which came Saturday at the hands of Clemson. Things reached a point where it was only a question of when Golden would be fired, not if.
2. Miami is not an easy job for anybody: There are a few things you're going to hear over and over again from Miami and college football analysts during the school's coaching search. You'll hear about the national championship history of the school and the potential to turn this program around and restore the glory. That's all true. The potential is there. Miami is a national brand located in the heart of some of the best high school football talent in the country.
But all of that has also been true for the last 15 years, which is how long its been since that last national title. Since then, the school has chewed up and spit out Larry Coker (who was the coach for that 2001 title), Randy Shannon and now Golden. The program hasn't won 10 games in a season since 2003, only winning as many as nine twice (2009 and 2013).
Maybe the Canes can chalk it all up to not finding the right coach, or maybe it's the result of an environment that expects a little too much, too quickly. Miami's fan base -- former players included -- is incredibly passionate. Not only is it extremely vocal, but it's not shy about expressing its feelings, either. This is a double-edged sword. On the one hand, when things are going well, you're an icon. But if they aren't going well enough, nobody is afraid to come out and say you're the wrong man for the job and that you need to be fired.
Not only does Miami need to find a good coach, it has to find one that can withstand the pressure cooker that is Miami football.
3. Interim coach Larry Scott has no head coaching experience: Scott is in his third season on Miami's coaching staff, coming to Coral Gables from South Florida before the 2013 season. He has served as the tight ends coach.
As for why he's been chosen as the interim coach, well, it's possible the players really like him, but odds are it has something to do with Scott's abilities as a recruiter as well. He's been a key recruiter for the Canes in South Florida since joining the staff, and with things up in the air right now, it's likely the school believes he can do the best job of keeping Miami's recruiting class together as the program tries to move forward.
4. Chip Kelly isn't going to take the Miami job: It's a dream that I fully understand, Miami fans. But just like last time when you convinced yourselves that Jon Gruden was going to leave a cushy television gig for Miami, Chip Kelly isn't going to leave the NFL for Coral Gables, either.
That doesn't mean you won't find a good coach, though.http://www.cbssports.com/collegefoo...n-miami-relieves-its-head-coach-of-his-duties
t seems that Miami's 58-0 loss to Clemson on Saturday was the final straw. The school announced Sunday that Al Golden has been relieved of his duties as football coach.
"Coach Golden has led our program through some very difficult times and he has done so with class, integrity and a true desire to see our students succeed on the field, in the classroom and in the community." Miami athletic director Blake James said in a statement.
"However, we have a proud tradition of excellence at Miami, not just in football but in all sports, and we want to compete for ACC and national championships. I simply believe that now is the time to bring the Hurricane Family together and rally behind our young men."
Golden went 32-25 in his five seasons with the Hurricanes, never finishing with more than nine wins in a season. He led the team to two bowl games, but for a fan base that expects national titles, it simply wasn't enough.
"On behalf of my family I want to thank the University of Miami for a tremendous opportunity," Golden said. "I believe in what we are doing and how we are doing it and we have some outstanding young men in our football program. Though this moment is difficult, we wish the Canes the best of luck going forward."
Assistant coach Larry Scott, Miami's tight ends coach and running game coordinator, will serve as interim coach until the end of the season.
Here are four things to know about Golden's dismissal, and where Miami goes from here:
1. Golden never met expectations at Miami: When Golden first took over the Hurricanes program, coming to South Beach from Temple, it was in the midst of an NCAA scandal. The school self-imposed sanctions that kept it out of bowl games and limited its scholarships.
That bought him some time following a 13-11 record in his first two years, but the beginning of the downfall was the 2013 season. Miami started the 7-0 and reached No. 7 in the AP Top 25. At that point, everyone was proclaiming that The U was back ... but it wasn't. The Canes lost four of their final six games, including a bowl game, and finished the season 9-4.
Still, there was reason to hope that Golden and Miami could take the next step in 2014 ... but they didn't, instead finishing the year 6-7. A slow start to the 2015 season included losses to Cincinnati and the worst defeat in program history, which came Saturday at the hands of Clemson. Things reached a point where it was only a question of when Golden would be fired, not if.
2. Miami is not an easy job for anybody: There are a few things you're going to hear over and over again from Miami and college football analysts during the school's coaching search. You'll hear about the national championship history of the school and the potential to turn this program around and restore the glory. That's all true. The potential is there. Miami is a national brand located in the heart of some of the best high school football talent in the country.
But all of that has also been true for the last 15 years, which is how long its been since that last national title. Since then, the school has chewed up and spit out Larry Coker (who was the coach for that 2001 title), Randy Shannon and now Golden. The program hasn't won 10 games in a season since 2003, only winning as many as nine twice (2009 and 2013).
Maybe the Canes can chalk it all up to not finding the right coach, or maybe it's the result of an environment that expects a little too much, too quickly. Miami's fan base -- former players included -- is incredibly passionate. Not only is it extremely vocal, but it's not shy about expressing its feelings, either. This is a double-edged sword. On the one hand, when things are going well, you're an icon. But if they aren't going well enough, nobody is afraid to come out and say you're the wrong man for the job and that you need to be fired.
Not only does Miami need to find a good coach, it has to find one that can withstand the pressure cooker that is Miami football.
3. Interim coach Larry Scott has no head coaching experience: Scott is in his third season on Miami's coaching staff, coming to Coral Gables from South Florida before the 2013 season. He has served as the tight ends coach.
As for why he's been chosen as the interim coach, well, it's possible the players really like him, but odds are it has something to do with Scott's abilities as a recruiter as well. He's been a key recruiter for the Canes in South Florida since joining the staff, and with things up in the air right now, it's likely the school believes he can do the best job of keeping Miami's recruiting class together as the program tries to move forward.
4. Chip Kelly isn't going to take the Miami job: It's a dream that I fully understand, Miami fans. But just like last time when you convinced yourselves that Jon Gruden was going to leave a cushy television gig for Miami, Chip Kelly isn't going to leave the NFL for Coral Gables, either.
That doesn't mean you won't find a good coach, though.http://www.cbssports.com/collegefoo...n-miami-relieves-its-head-coach-of-his-duties
Jay Paterno has sent his application in 6 times already. He wasn't sure if they got the first 5 after he didn't hear anything back.
Gave a great speech on behalf of his Father induction into Pennsylvania Hall of Fame this past weekend! He is a nice guy that adored his Father as he should, regardless of what happen to his Fathers Reputation and Legacy. He needs to stop crying, filing lawsuits, and go get a Coaching Job somewhere and rebuild his father's legacy by winning as a Head Coach! Start in the Ivy League or Juanita or at a Smaller Pennsylvania Program!
Penn State cannot move on until the Paterno's drop the Lawsuits, move away, or accept that it is time to move on too!
Matt Rhule might normally be considered with how well he is doing at Temple, but something tells me they've learned their lesson about poaching from that school
Funny, I thought the same thing and why they will avoid anything from Penn State again, including Franklin!
LOL they'll be flying planes above the stadium w/ "Fire Wanny" signs after the first game when he decides to punt on 4th and inches w/ less than a minute left when his team is down a TD.With his connections to the Miami area I wouldn't be surprised if they make a run at Wannstedt.
Agreed, I just find the whole situation with Jay laughable. I've met very few Penn State fans that actually thought he was a good coach. That is the reason he can't get a job. No matter what happened with JoePa he had to know once he was no longer the head coach at Penn State that he was probably not going to be kept by the new head coach.
Well there are certainly lots of people here who have extolled his virtues over the years. If he's anywhere near as good as what some of the folks here claim, I think the correct question isn't "why", it's "why not".
You could use the same logic for attempting to hire Walt Harris, Johnny Majors, Jackie Sherill or any prior Pitt coach. Heck, there were plenty gushing about Haywood at one point. Wish I had saved those posts...would be worth a great laugh. Hail to Pitt!
Well, the fact that Rhule first came to Temple as part of Golden's staff might cause them to look past him . . .
Ma
Makes me wonder if Rhule was the mastermind behind the success of Temple during Golden's years there.
I never got the hype around Golden. Maybe he's just lucky to have a name that makes him sound like he "must be good."
Makes me wonder if Rhule was the mastermind behind the success of Temple during Golden's years there.
I never got the hype around Golden. Maybe he's just lucky to have a name that makes him sound like he "must be good."
Rhule's perspective on the speculation.
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports..._get_Rhule_to_leave_Temple.html#disqus_thread
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports..._get_Rhule_to_leave_Temple.html#disqus_thread
"#99HUGHgreen, post: 453644, member: 4804"]Ma
Makes me wonder if Rhule was the mastermind behind the success of Temple during Golden's years there.
Excellent point, I truly enjoy your insights when you come up with that comment.
I never got the hype around Golden. Maybe he's just lucky to have a name that makes him sound like he "must be good."
Golden was terrific at UVA as DC, but that could have been Groh now that you said that about Rhule?
We know how good Rhule this week against Notre Dame, a step up on competition, but the AAC with Memphis and Houston si looking every good?
I suspect all 3 Coaches will be somewhere else next year.
Houston-Former OSU OC is going somewhere, I would take him for Miami or WVU?
Memphis Coach perfect for Miami or WVU too!
Temple Coach has to be on Illinois, UVA, and Minnesota lists?
Any thoughts on Houston, Memphis, and Temple destinations!
Makes me wonder if Rhule was the mastermind behind the success of Temple during Golden's years there.
Excellent point, I truly enjoy your insights when you come up with that comment.
I never got the hype around Golden. Maybe he's just lucky to have a name that makes him sound like he "must be good."
Golden was terrific at UVA as DC, but that could have been Groh now that you said that about Rhule?
We know how good Rhule this week against Notre Dame, a step up on competition, but the AAC with Memphis and Houston si looking every good?
I suspect all 3 Coaches will be somewhere else next year.
Houston-Former OSU OC is going somewhere, I would take him for Miami or WVU?
Memphis Coach perfect for Miami or WVU too!
Temple Coach has to be on Illinois, UVA, and Minnesota lists?
Any thoughts on Houston, Memphis, and Temple destinations!
Nice article about Rhule. I hope for Temple's sake he sticks around at least a few more years.
Though he did say, "I don't pretend to know what life is going to bring. I don't make promises I can't keep. I'm not one of those guys."
Just that they are 3 talented football coaches who will surely get some attention from other schools in need of that "up and coming HC who won't necessarily break their bank."
No oreder and just guesses!
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