Great win! Now, will those clamoring for a watered-down schedule finally shut up

[PittMiamiRivalry]

Duke and Virginia had easy schedules and were picked to beat us. We played a much tougher schedule and it's paying off now. I don't know if Heather listened to you as she planned the OCS, but I hope to God she didn't.

Let's Go Pitt. Adversity helps build character. Meaningless wins over the MAC does not.

 

[DiehardPanther]

Duke and Virginia had easy schedules and were picked to beat us. We played a much tougher schedule and it's paying off now. I don't know if Heather listened to you as she planned the OCS, but I hope to God she didn't.

Let's Go Pitt. Adversity helps build character. Meaningless wins over the MAC does not.

You play 1, at most 2 quality nonconference opponents. 2-3 of the nonconference games should be close to automatic wins.

 

[joeydavid]

Duke and Virginia had easy schedules and were picked to beat us. We played a much tougher schedule and it's paying off now. I don't know if Heather listened to you as she planned the OCS, but I hope to God she didn't.

Let's Go Pitt. Adversity helps build character. Meaningless wins over the MAC does not.

They would be in top 15 next week with a normal schedule.

 

[Parkview57]

I'm clamoring for an easier OOC schedule because if Pitt were 7-2 it would be ranked 21st, a nice bowl game would await, and RECRUITING WOULD BE MUCH EASIER, imo.

 

[fairgambit]

They would be in to 15 next week with normal schedule.

Certainly top 25. Pitt didn't win tonight because they played a tougher schedule. They won because they had better players and executed better. This team has showed significant improvement since September.

 

[McKee Place]

I highly doubt anyone was clamoring for girls lacrosse as a priority, so i think it's a fair bet the AD hasn't spent much time listening to the fans...

 

[PittPanther44]

Team looked much better playing in the rain tonight, I’ll tell you that

 

[panthermax]

Pitt should schedule exactly like their ACC competitors do.

 

[H2P 2003]

Certainly top 25. Pitt didn't win tonight because they played a tougher schedule. They won because they had better players and executed better. This team has showed significant improvement since September.

So which is it? All I heard for literally a decade is pitt basketball didn’t win in March because of bad OOC schedules?

 

[McKee Place]

You prep and line up and play your tail off regardless of who the opponent is. Especially when you schedule 7 years in advance. Who would think a UCF or directional Michigan or Temple might not totally suck by then?

 

[Parkview57]

So which is it?

I repeat, it is getting as many wins as possible and then win in conference play.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

Duke and Virginia had easy schedules and were picked to beat us. We played a much tougher schedule and it's paying off now. I don't know if Heather listened to you as she planned the OCS, but I hope to God she didn't.

Let's Go Pitt. Adversity helps build character. Meaningless wins over the MAC does not.

Definitely would still play a watered down schedule, be 7-2 right now, ranked #21 and there'd be a palpable buzz, just because you beat Ohio and Akron instead of losing to PSU and UCF

 

[fairgambit]

So which is it? All I heard for literally a decade is pitt basketball didn’t win in March because of bad OOC schedules?

Basketball and football are totally different. Season length and post season play differences require different scheduling models.

 

[below0w]

Duke and Virginia had easy schedules and were picked to beat us. We played a much tougher schedule and it's paying off now. I don't know if Heather listened to you as she planned the OCS, but I hope to God she didn't.

Let's Go Pitt. Adversity helps build character. Meaningless wins over the MAC does not.

"Meaningless" wins over the MAC help get you to a better bowl game. Win a few of those and you'll elevate your program. Nobody gives a damn about a team that wins 6 games against a brutal schedule. There's nothing to gain from that. You're making the mistake of assuming that Pitt beat UVA tonight because of their schedule difficulty when it's just as likely Pitt would have beaten them no matter what creampuffs they scheduled in OOC and, in that scenario, Pitt would also have a handful of extra wins to improve their postseason standing. Keep scheduling stupid OOC schedules and all that's going to happen is Pitt's potential to grow as a program will be limited. "Adversity builds character" is a platitude, not an adage our AD should pay any mind to.

 

[panther.fan]

In basketball they say in the tournament that they look favorably on teams with hard OOC schedules and that they are more prepared for the tournament. I am hoping this is the case for Pitt in football this year. That being said, I think we need to ease up on the OOC schedule. There are a lot more games in basketball, where we should only be scheduling 1 or maybe 2 (maybe a team in the 25-35 range for a second) games a year. In fairness, UCF was pretty bad when we had them on the schedule so it was a bad break. Nothing you can do about it though, this team has to keep winning right now.

 

[joeydavid]

Certainly top 25. Pitt didn't win tonight because they played a tougher schedule. They won because they had better players and executed better. This team has showed significant improvement since September.

Without 3 OOC games verses the top 15; Pitt would have likely been ranked ahead of Cuse (19th) going into this game but whatever.

 

[joeydavid]

"Meaningless" wins over the MAC help get you to a better bowl game. Win a few of those and you'll elevate your program. Nobody gives a damn about a team that wins 6 games against a brutal schedule. There's nothing to gain from that. You're making the mistake of assuming that Pitt beat UVA tonight because of their schedule difficulty when it's just as likely Pitt would have beaten them no matter what creampuffs they scheduled in OOC and, in that scenario, Pitt would also have a handful of extra wins to improve their postseason standing. Keep scheduling stupid OOC schedules and all that's going to happen is Pitt's potential to grow as a program will be limited. "Adversity builds character" is a platitude, not an adage our AD should pay any mind to.

Washington State didn't play a P5 team OOC and lost to a .500 team; No-one cares about that as they entered the top 10.

 

[NCanton Panther]

This continual talk of our supposed stupid OOC scheduling is so overblown.

If PSU would have a sudden change of heart and want to play us every year, our AD would agree in a heartbeat, so would most Pitt fans and all rightfully so.

ND is ND, you play them when you get the chance and we have a history with them. And regardless, it’s a mandated game set by the ACC.

UCF was scheduled how long ago and when they weren’t considered anywhere near a formidable opponent.

Our tougher than normal OOC schedule this year just offsets what is normally a very average ACC Coastal schedule.

Even with the tough OOC schedule, our record would look a lot better and we’d be ranked like everyone yearns for if we wouldn’t have lost one game we had no business losing.

 

[joeydavid]

So which is it? All I heard for literally a decade is pitt basketball didn’t win in March because of bad OOC schedules?

Football doesn't play in March.

It's a really simple concept to grasp, in football perception is what matters. There's not a bloated tournament at the end of the season to prove your improvement from early beatings.

 

[Dan1911]

Op: eff you. With a reasonable schedule we’re bowl eligible now and positioning ourselves for a bigger bowl. You are a clueless meathead.

 

[UPitt '89]

The only game I want back is the UNC game.

UNC will go 1-11 this year, with their one win being against us. We had no business losing to that team.

I'd be perfectly ok with 6-3/5-0 right now with the 3 losses all coming against Top 15 teams. We'd be ranked next week.



ps. Can't really blame Pitt for the UCF game on the schedule. When we scheduled them, they were coming off a 1-11 season. That was supposed to be a cream-puff game.

 

[NCanton Panther]

Spot on. All big points that everyone clamoring about our OOC schedule conveniently ignore.

 

[gary2]

This continual talk of our supposed stupid OOC scheduling is so overblown.

If PSU would have a sudden change of heart and want to play us every year, our AD would agree in a heartbeat, so would most Pitt fans and all rightfully so.

ND is ND, you play them when you get the chance and we have a history with them. And regardless, it’s a mandated game set by the ACC.

UCF was scheduled how long ago and when they weren’t considered anywhere near a formidable opponent.

Our tougher than normal OOC schedule this year just offsets what is normally a very average ACC Coastal schedule.

Even with the tough OOC schedule, our record would look a lot better and we’d be ranked like everyone yearns for if we wouldn’t have lost one game we had no business losing.

We are 4-0 against both Duke and UVA and 3-1 against Geo.Tech and Syracuse yet we 0-4 against UNC. It is hard to fathom. This year UNC is 1-6 and has a point differential of minus 70 and they still beat us.

 

[daminals76]

The only game I want back is the UNC game.

UNC will go 1-11 this year, with their one win being against us. We had no business losing to that team.

I'd be perfectly ok with 6-3/5-0 right now with the 3 losses all coming against Top 15 teams. We'd be ranked next week.



ps. Can't really blame Pitt for the UCF game on the schedule. When we scheduled them, they were coming off a 1-11 season. That was supposed to be a cream-puff game.

They'll finish 2-10 this year... they have a cupcake team coming up.

Hopefully it is enough to get Fedora fired because Narduzzi will NEVER beat him.

 

[cpc247]

Duke and Virginia had easy schedules and were picked to beat us. We played a much tougher schedule and it's paying off now. I don't know if Heather listened to you as she planned the OCS, but I hope to God she didn't.

Let's Go Pitt. Adversity helps build character. Meaningless wins over the MAC does not.

This post shows how little you understand about college football and building a winning program.

 

[Jpripper88]

So which is it? All I heard for literally a decade is pitt basketball didn’t win in March because of bad OOC schedules?

No, you didn't, but it also doesn't matter in football. 7-2 Pitt has no chance to get in the playoff, but they do get ranked, get a better bowl and exposure, and should get a bump to recruiting. In basketball you get to the stage, either way.

 

[MarshallGoldberg]

It's amazing how divided our fan base is over if we will play 9 power 5 teams a year or 10. wow big deal, one game.

Everyone agrees UCF was either a bad decision or bad luck, so going forward it's mostly a question of 9 or 10, and when WVU and PSU agree to a series, 10 may win out sometimes. Get used to it.

I would also note every team in the Big 10 are required to play 10 power five teams a year already and we will too if the ACC ever goes to a nine team regular season for the $.

 

[MarshallGoldberg]

It's also interesting when fans act like we'd automatically beat some of the (expensive to schedule, btw) MAC teams we've lost to in the past. Sure, I'm fine with a MAC + FCS + some mix of G5 + P5 teams (with rivalries and ticket sales and finances as real issues) but let's not pretend we get automatic wins.

 

[rmf05]

Anyone who's watched the last 40 years of Pitt football and still thinks getting beaten constantly by good teams builds character is an idiot of impressive magnitude. Anyone who thinks that beating a VA team last night that was overrated because of their easy schedule is somehow evidence that scheduling tough is in any way wise should not be allowed to breed.

 

[Gunga_Galunga]

Anyone who's watched the last 40 years of Pitt football and still thinks getting beaten constantly by good teams builds character is an idiot of impressive magnitude. Anyone who thinks that beating a VA team last night that was overrated because of their easy schedule is somehow evidence that scheduling tough is in any way wise should not be allowed to breed.

I am never shocked at what people put out there. Failing to realize that being 7-2 and ranked 18th against a normal schedule is better than being 5-4 against a tough schedule, is about the dumbest thing I can imagine.

 

[cbpitt2]

Duke and Virginia had easy schedules and were picked to beat us. We played a much tougher schedule and it's paying off now. I don't know if Heather listened to you as she planned the OCS, but I hope to God she didn't.

Let's Go Pitt. Adversity helps build character. Meaningless wins over the MAC does not.

Iron sharpens iron.

 

[DiehardPanther]

The only game I want back is the UNC game.

UNC will go 1-11 this year, with their one win being against us. We had no business losing to that team.

I'd be perfectly ok with 6-3/5-0 right now with the 3 losses all coming against Top 15 teams. We'd be ranked next week.



ps. Can't really blame Pitt for the UCF game on the schedule. When we scheduled them, they were coming off a 1-11 season. That was supposed to be a cream-puff game.

UCF won 10 games in 2012.
UCF won 12 games in 2013.

 

[oldpantherfan]

I agree with pittmiami.
and for those that don't Pitt has beaalk all ranked ACC teams it has faced.
stream puff schedules !dan nothing and tough schedule will help in the end from recruiting to playoffs.
as a young athlete i was told if you want to be the best you have to play the best .

 

[MarshallGoldberg]

On another thread someone said "well if you have to have a power five opponent, play Iowa State!"

I can only imagine five years down the road how upset they'd be when we played a return road game against a 3-2 or whatever quietly decent Iowa State team who you'd get no credit for beating, plenty of criticism for losing to, and almost no fan interest from either fan base.

 

[MarshallGoldberg]

On another thread someone said "well if you have to have a power five opponent, play Iowa State!"

I can only imagine five years down the road how upset they'd be when we played a return road game against a 3-2 or whatever quietly decent Iowa State team who you'd get no credit for beating, plenty of criticism for losing to, and almost no fan interest from either fan base.

 

[Pitt79]

Duke and Virginia had easy schedules and were picked to beat us. We played a much tougher schedule and it's paying off now. I don't know if Heather listened to you as she planned the OCS, but I hope to God she didn't.

Let's Go Pitt. Adversity helps build character. Meaningless wins over the MAC does not.

I'd rather be 8-1 having beaten weaker teams. They'd be ranked and nobody would think twice about it.

 

[pittman71]

So I assume most of you would rather play a creampuff than Penn State?

Not me. Hell no. Pitt and Penn State should be playing every year. They should be in the same conference as well but that is whole different discussion.

 

[Pitt79]

So I assume most of you would rather play a creampuff than Penn State?

Not me. Hell no. Pitt and Penn State should be playing every year. They should be in the same conference as well but that is whole different discussion.

Let's play Penn State sometimes and 3 cream puffs. I'd rather see wins than great visiting teams. Like last year, I saw Oklahoma State and a 59-20 loss, I would have been happier seeing a 59-20 win over say, Idaho State. Seeing "quality opponents" means less to me than seeing a win

 

[pittman71]

Let's play Penn State sometimes and 3 cream puffs. I'd rather see wins than great visiting teams. Like last year, I saw Oklahoma State and a 59-20 loss, I would have been happier seeing a 59-20 win over say, Idaho State. Seeing "quality opponents" means less to me than seeing a win

I would have rather seen West Virginia than Oklahoma State. Both WVU and PSU games generate high interest and high attendance.

Again it just sucks that these three schools aren't in the same conference. But I just read an article that says Pitt is doing well financially in the ACC. And in the end I guess that is all that matters.

 

[rmf05]

Our winning pct. vs PSU, ND and WVU since any of us were born make Milkdud's record vs Mich and OSU look impressive. Our record vs Power 5 teams OOC is worse than how mid-majors have done against us. Its been almost 40 years of non stop idiocy with diminishing returns. Yet there are actually fools still out there asking for more. Maybe you"ve all gotten PTSD from years of beatings?