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Hopefully this puts to rest the idea of Tim Beck for Pitt's OC
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Tim beck doesn't call any plays for offense,it's not his offense,I don't get why people blame him for OSU problems offensively
Huh? Is he not the offensive coordinator or Co Coordinator ( whatever the piss that is).
Imagine him at Pitt with light years less talent than he has at his disposal with OSU.
He would turn us into Rutgers where getting a first down is a monumental task. No thanks!
I would rather get my eye lids pulled out one bye one than watch than unimaginative offense here at Pitt
Yeah and everyone said when Canada got here he was a horrible OC and he was jus fired blah blah blah,no one knows how it will turn out if he's the guy,PN must be doing something right if everyone continuously wants what he has
I think of the 2014 Nebraska's offense when people talk about Tim Beck as OC. Two things bothered me with him:
1. There was a report of him wanting to pass more than they did.
2. They also barely used their TEs or H-backs in Nebraska.
1. There was a report of him wanting to pass more than they did.
2. They also barely used their TEs or H-backs in Nebraska.
Anybody with any football IQ knew Canada was a outstanding OC. He was successful at every stop. With marginal talent at his disposal. Yet, still was able to put up a lot of points.
Beck has probably the most talent in the country to work with. Yet, if you seen OSU this year on multiple occasions. You would have to be blind or have no idea what your talking about when discussing football. When comparing Canada to Beck resumes
I don't get the Beck thing, I've never gotten the Beck deal, and I suspect I never will get the whole Tim Beck fascination.
I also don't see how he fits here at all other than he's originally from Youngstown (like 73 other coaches)?
Mark Mangino is from that area too. Are we calling him as well?
I also don't see how he fits here at all other than he's originally from Youngstown (like 73 other coaches)?
Mark Mangino is from that area too. Are we calling him as well?
Beck does not call the plays at OSU. Some people on here don't understand that sometimes a coach will give a guy a title to help get him more money.
I saw this and thought I would post it. With Urban getting blanked, he will not sit on his hands and do nothing. Changes will be made.
Ohio State: Asked if he’ll be back next season, Ohio State co-offensive coordinator / quarterbacks coach Tim Beck told reporters, “I don't know. That's Coach Meyer's decision. I worked really hard and feel good about it.”
I saw this and thought I would post it. With Urban getting blanked, he will not sit on his hands and do nothing. Changes will be made.
Ohio State: Asked if he’ll be back next season, Ohio State co-offensive coordinator / quarterbacks coach Tim Beck told reporters, “I don't know. That's Coach Meyer's decision. I worked really hard and feel good about it.”
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It doesn't matter who Pitt hires the EXPERTS on this board will have a say. I remember when Chaney was hired people complained. Same with Canada.
Every coach who comes in will give their spin on the offense. Narduzzi knows what he wants in a coordinator. Why don't we just trust his judgement?
Every coach who comes in will give their spin on the offense. Narduzzi knows what he wants in a coordinator. Why don't we just trust his judgement?
Because that makes too much sense. Remember we are all experts and exactly know what Pitt needs and how to do their job because we work with all the staff everyday.
No matter who he is hired - there will be some fans complaining. A lot of people on here complained about Canada when he was hired.
Which Power 5 schools offered these guys?
Jarrett
Edwards
Soto
Caprara
Galambos
Idowu
Maddox
Lewis
Webb
It's just not Pitt fans, every board does this. It's the nature of the beast. Did anyone look at the OSU boards last night? They want all the offensive coaches fired, so what they are saying is that they disagree with Urban Meyer because it was Meyer who hired these guys. Again, it's just not Pitt fans.
I don't care what message board you look at. Sports, politics or whatever, not everyone is going to agree. Nobody is perfect, not even head coaches. The posters who disagreed with the Haywood hiring, the Fraud hiring were right. Many on this board were backing Fraud to the hilt up until the morning they find out he was high tailing it out of town.
I can guarantee you this, if Bama finds a way to lose their next game, no matter the reason, many Bama fans will be bitching about the loss and place blame on somebody.
It's a message board, don't take it so personal.
I don't care what message board you look at. Sports, politics or whatever, not everyone is going to agree. Nobody is perfect, not even head coaches. The posters who disagreed with the Haywood hiring, the Fraud hiring were right. Many on this board were backing Fraud to the hilt up until the morning they find out he was high tailing it out of town.
I can guarantee you this, if Bama finds a way to lose their next game, no matter the reason, many Bama fans will be bitching about the loss and place blame on somebody.
It's a message board, don't take it so personal.
Yes, BUT their fans show up to the games and financially suppport the program. A lot of "Pitt fans" just complain from their couch.
On defense we were devoid of depth and at some positions, talent. I am not sure Moses could have made this D look good!
Yet, you have done nothing but complain since the bowl game............hypocrite perhaps?
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Conklin, or anyone else, is irrelevant as Pitt defensive coordinator.
Narduzzi is running it.
Amazing how many fans here can't grasp that.
My New Years resolution is to not judge the OC hire until at least 4 games into the season. A tough resolution no doubt.
I am not taking it personally.
Couldn't agree with you more. Once Duzz gets a couple more recruiting classes hopefully we will see his defense at it's best
Acually Nards said he will be a CEO type coach. Meaning leaving his coaches alone to coach the way they deem fit. Does he give imput to his coaches here and there......yes!
But he did say he would be hands off.
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Shere, I can see this for the Offense but for the defense too? I would guess he is very hands on with the defensive system. But of course, I am just guessing.
I'm personally more inclined to agree with you.
If shere is right, then yeah, the relatively young and inexperienced Conklin probably is not the ideal choice.
Yeah Swervin. I hear ya.
However, my comments were made because Nards is on record saying exactly what I posted. So who knows what's really going on behind the scenes
I don't think PN is completely hands off defensively but I do believe he thought originally that he could mold a dc has not worked out and that's why I expect defensive staff changes after signing day or sooner.
We could do much worse than mangino.. who is from new castle .
You lead Kansas to a bcs bowl and win..
You can coach
Unfortunately, you're spot-on. Translation: it usually takes at least one-third of the season to get the offense rolling every time that we change OC's.
It's a topic that's been discussed on here before, but when was the last time that Pitt derived the benefits of the continuity of a strong, solid offensive system?
Hard to judge anyone on just 1 game. So it may be a bit unfair to condemn Beck or any of the other tOSU offensive coaches for that matter, based on just the Clemson game. But having seen tOSU a few times later in the season, it appears that they had a deficiency at QB in terms of being able to execute an effective downfield passing game, as well as a substandard OL.
Barrett didn't seem to have the confidence to get the ball out either on time or with accuracy. The OL appeared to struggle at times with both run blocking and pass protection. Really was surprising to me to see tOSU's OL look as ineffective as they did at times. Coaching? Players not performing up to their capabilities? But Clemson sure handled them and dominated them.
