How stars change

[DC_Area_Panther]

Ricky Town in 2015 was rated 4-stars and 5.9 when he went to USC. Now he is 3-stars 5.7 coming out of JUCO when he signs with Pitt.

Should our star-gazer crowd consider him a 3-star or a 4-star?

Been committed to both USC and Arkansas--does this mean he his better than a 3-star because of his offers?

Just asking?

Now that we have 16 recruits (still no 4-stars) we have jumped from about #60 to #48 in recruiting rannkings,

Heck, if we get 4 more 3-stars to reach 20 we will probably have a ~30 recruiting class.

Are we still recruiting badly because no 4-stars?

 

[joeydavid]

This class lacks "star power" and won't be a full complement of 25. That just means it won't rank high in the team rankings, not that it isn't a good class overall.

Pitt's ranked 50th on 247's composite and would be 40th on average player rating at this point.

If you look at Rutger's class (currently ranked 35th), half of their class falls outside the top 1000. I can't imagine anyone being willing to swap Pitt's class for Rutger's. Especially after comparing the recruits offers.

Ricky Town in 2015 was rated 4-stars and 5.9 when he went to USC. Now he is 3-stars 5.7 coming out of JUCO when he signs with Pitt.

Should our star-gazer crowd consider him a 3-star or a 4-star?

Been committed to both USC and Arkansas--does this mean he his better than a 3-star because of his offers?

Just asking?

Now that we have 16 recruits (still no 4-stars) we have jumped from about #60 to #48 in recruiting rannkings,

Heck, if we get 4 more 3-stars to reach 20 we will probably have a ~30 recruiting class.

Are we still recruiting badly because no 4-stars?

 

[SempleFest06]

Ricky Town in 2015 was rated 4-stars and 5.9 when he went to USC. Now he is 3-stars 5.7 coming out of JUCO when he signs with Pitt.

Should our star-gazer crowd consider him a 3-star or a 4-star?

Been committed to both USC and Arkansas--does this mean he his better than a 3-star because of his offers?

Just asking?

Now that we have 16 recruits (still no 4-stars) we have jumped from about #60 to #48 in recruiting rannkings,

Heck, if we get 4 more 3-stars to reach 20 we will probably have a ~30 recruiting class.

Are we still recruiting badly because no 4-stars?

It depends what your definition of "recruiting badly" is. This class is probably not as good as Duzz first 2 classes, although it is solid, especially in the trenches with some athletic big bodies who can develop. Probably won't be many early contributors, but that is OK because we bring back a lot of experience.

 

[PantherO]

We have 8 5.7 stars. Those are border 3-4 star guys. It is a very solid class and all of them have potential. Plus, you need to look at who else these guys have offers from. That says a lot more about this class than the stars. While I would like to see some more "ready" to plug in guys (4-5)...There is potential for a lot of these guys to develop as Duzz Builds the team he wants.

And yes..the numbers make a difference. 16 3 stars will grade lower than a team who has 25 recruits made up of 2 and 3 stars. Which do you want?

 

[WiseAndGlorious]

I would settle for one "ready to plug" WR. Nothing against any of the ones already on board. Maybe one will turn out to be another 3 star Antonio Bryant. But that was one of the team's biggest weaknesses last year and we are losing 2 of the top 3.

 

[srpst23]

On Town, he was rated a 4 star how many teams and years ago? His current ranking likely reflects the fact that he had the short end of a time share at a junior college (the other kid was only a freshman), and is probably more generous than it should be. I hope he works out, but he honestly looks like a kid that has been running away from expectations for a while now (whether those expectations were just or not is another topic entirely). He's been from USC to Arkansas to Ventura, to Pitt in the span of 2 years. How is that impressive or encouraging?

 

[Chescat]

One way it would be "encouraging" would be if he's better then Dinucci, who up
until a few weeks ago most posters thought was a viable backup. Looking at
the film, his arm appears far better than Dinucci's. So based on that alone, I would call it
"encouraging."

 

[DC_Area_Panther]

Personally, I think this is a solid class unless one's expectations are to be matching a perennial top ten team's class.

To a great degree--I was just yanking a few chains with my original post--apologies if I truly offended anyone.

A couple of 4-5 stars who will play immediately would be nice at the end, however.

 

[rmf05]

It doesn't seem like there are any dynamic players that will make this program better than what it has been as individuals. Yet, it can be just as important to have a class with no reaches that flame out but is instead filled with solid, multi-year contributors. This class could be useful for adding solid depth at multiple positions a couple years down the road.

Who knows if one of the dime-a-dozen three-stars could become a dynamic contributor in short order like Revis did or over time like Scott McKillop?

I certainly don't think this class, as it stands, will hurt us.

 

[jivecat]

I am never concerned about 3 star OL or DL since they tend to develop over time. Even 3 Star CBs are for me since it is difficult to judge for many as they are coming out of high school.

However, a 4-5 Star QB, LB, or WR can make a big difference. This is where I wish we would excel in recruiting.

 

[BBG65]

In the ACC Coastal, there are only 2 recruiting powerhouses, Miami and to a lesser extent, Virginia Tech. Pitt's class is mediocre, but fits right in with most of their competition.

 

[TD_istheman]

In the ACC Coastal, there are only 2 recruiting powerhouses, Miami and to a lesser extent, Virginia Tech. Pitt's class is mediocre, but fits right in with most of their competition.

We beat VT recruiting all the time until recently, but you go on with the agenda

 

[Pittguy93]

When does Rivals change their ratings?

 

[Jpripper88]

In the ACC Coastal, there are only 2 recruiting powerhouses, Miami and to a lesser extent, Virginia Tech. Pitt's class is mediocre, but fits right in with most of their competition.

UNC consistently out recruits us and beats us on the field.

 

[melwood]

I believe its a lot of 'chicken or the egg' scenario with who is recruiting these kids. If some of these 'borderline' 3*'s had maybe a couple more high-profile P5 offers, they would no doubt be pushed to 4*. Case in point, that school back East. I've always thought their recruiting numbers were inflated by reputation alone. If a couple of our commits had true offers from PSU, I'd bet they'd be 4* right now.

 

[pafootballguy]

I believe its a lot of 'chicken or the egg' scenario with who is recruiting these kids. If some of these 'borderline' 3*'s had maybe a couple more high-profile P5 offers, they would no doubt be pushed to 4*. Case in point, that school back East. I've always thought their recruiting numbers were inflated by reputation alone. If a couple of our commits had true offers from PSU, I'd bet they'd be 4* right now.

A school * bump is a myth

 

[DiehardPanther]

A school * bump is a myth

Do you work for Rivals?

 

[pafootballguy]

Do you work for Rivals?

No just follow recruiting, if you look at just the state of PA this year a number of recruits committed to PSU went up and number went down after committing.

 

[DiehardPanther]

No just follow recruiting, if you look at just the state of PA this year a number of recruits committed to PSU went up and number went down after committing.

Quite the sample size you gathered. Go back to the drawing board, or better yet the PS Board.