Hugley is an elite Big

[Sean Miller Fan]

Let's just be real, here. There are very few 5's in college basketball with his skillset. He will be the best returning 5 in college basketball. And you don't fire a coach who is returning that guy. Dude is a friggin monster.

This team isnt really that far away.

 

[PittPharm2002]

Hugley is a very good player

but it’s pretty clear you aren’t watching other games
Bacot is elite
Mark Williams is better
He’s arguably better than. Shedrick Williams at uva
He improved a bunch since last year -
But elite players don’t get neutralized by average dudes at Syracuse in a zone

 

[TD_6082]

Let's just be real, here. There are very few 5's in college basketball with his skillset. He will be the best returning 5 in college basketball. And you don't fire a coach who is returning that guy. Dude is a friggin monster.

This team isnt really that far away.

You are delusional. What exactly is his skill set? He's a beast down low, both at getting position and scoring. He's an effective passer out of double teams. - soft hands and good touch close to the basket.

There are also so many other things he doesn't necessarily do that well for today's bigs.

Just running the floor is a struggle sometimes for Big John. I like Hugley. He's a very effective big. But if you think for a second Hugley is on the same level as guys like Oscar Tshiebwe, Armando Bacot, or Kofi Cockburn, then you are delusional.

 

[BballinsiderfromPitt]

Let's just be real, here. There are very few 5's in college basketball with his skillset. He will be the best returning 5 in college basketball. And you don't fire a coach who is returning that guy. Dude is a friggin monster.

This team isnt really that far away.

Lol. He’s shooting 45 percent from the field and is terribly inefficient. He won’t be all ACC because there are several bigs in the ACC better. You’re awfully bad at this

 

[pittjas]

He is good. I don’t understand why you need to make ridiculous declarations though. You don’t get paid for clicks.

 

[TD_6082]

Hugley is a very good player

but it’s pretty clear you aren’t watching other games
Bacot is elite
Mark Williams is better
He’s arguably better than. Shedrick Williams at uva
He improved a bunch since last year -
But elite players don’t get neutralized by average dudes at Syracuse in a zone

Kadin Shedrick at UVA? He's really limited offensively. He runs the floor better, has a lot more length, and can defend away from the basket better than Hugley, but that's about the extent of it.

UVA is so bad this year. I thought they would be better than this at this point in the season, but they just don't have the players.

 

[PittPharm2002]

He is good. I don’t understand why you need to make ridiculous declarations though. You don’t get paid for clicks.

He’s a very good player , no doubt .

But smf is detached from reality because he’s scared of making that $1k donation to the panther club

 

[Vader_Storm]

You are delusional. What exactly is his skill set? He's a beast down low, both at getting position and scoring. He's an effective passer out of double teams. - soft hands and good touch close to the basket.

There are also so many other things he doesn't necessarily do that well for today's bigs.

Just running the floor is a struggle sometimes for Big John. I like Hugley. He's a very effective big. But if you think for a second Hugley is on the same level as guys like Oscar Tshiebwe, Armando Bacot, or Kofi Cockburn, then you are delusional.

You are comparing a player that is his playing his first full season to players that have played college basketball for 3 or 4 years already.

Compare freshmen to freshmen or first year players to first year players. Big John has 3 more years to play after this year. He isnt a redshirt junior or senior.

Big John has basically made most people eat crow already and his college career has just started.

 

[pittguy81]

Lol. He’s shooting 45 percent from the field and is terribly inefficient. He won’t be all ACC because there are several bigs in the ACC better. You’re awfully bad at this

He's simply trolling his own team, like he does regularly on the Football board. It's what he does, for whatever reason....

 

[PittPharm2002]

Kadin Shedrick at UVA? He's really limited offensively. He runs the floor better, has a lot more length, and can defend away from the basket better than Hugley, but that's about the extent of it.

UVA is so bad this year. I thought they would be better than this at this point in the season, but they just don't have the players.

He’s shooting 56%
Hugley is shooting 45% from the field

He’s playing half the minutes of Hugley and have nearly 6x the blocks and more rebounds per minute
I’m really glad John’son our team
He’s a really good player
But he’s a high volume player - not an elite big

Miami , FSU , UNC, and Duke will eat his lunch .
Cuse already did and will likely do again in the rematch

 

[TIGER-PAUL]

Let's just be real, here. There are very few 5's in college basketball with his skillset. He will be the best returning 5 in college basketball. And you don't fire a coach who is returning that guy. Dude is a friggin monster.

This team isnt really that far off

Lol I get what you’re doing here. genius

 

[Vader_Storm]

He’s shooting 56%
Hugley is shooting 45% from the field

He’s playing half the minutes of Hugley and have nearly 6x the blocks and more rebounds per minute
I’m really glad John’son our team
He’s a really good player
But he’s a high volume player - not an elite big

Miami , FSU , UNC, and Duke will eat his lunch .
Cuse already did and will likely do again in the rematch

Hugley gets double and triple teamed every game. You didnt say that because Hugley plays on a team with very little 3 point shooting to spread the floor and we have the worst spacing of any team in all of the power 6. That would change if Horton came back.

 

[Fk_Pitt]

Lol I get what you’re doing here. genius

Wait…are you calling SMF a genius? I thought I’ve see it all.

 

[PittPharm2002]

Hugley gets double and triple teamed every game. You didnt say that because Hugley plays on a team with very little 3 point shooting to spread the floor and we have the worst spacing of any team in all of the power 6. That would change if Horton came back.

I don’t need to.
Hugley is a very good player. He’s a high volume big who gets most his points at the line . Nothing wrong with that .
I’m not the one calling him elite .

 

[Vader_Storm]

I don’t need to.
Hugley is a very good player. He’s a high volume big who gets most his points at the line . Nothing wrong with that .
I’m not the one calling him elite .

The shooting percentages are irreverent when one player gets double and triple teamed more than any other big in the country by a mile.

What is relevant, is that John Hugley draws more fouls than any other player in all of college basketball.

No, John is not Elite. He is very very good considering this is his first full season when comparing him to other players playing their first full season.

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

Compare freshmen to freshmen or first year players to first year players.

As soon as the NCAA stops allowing those other teams to play their juniors and seniors against our sophomores that will be exactly what we should do.

Until then though...

 

[PittPharm2002]

The shooting percentages are irreverent when one player gets double and triple teamed more than any other big in the country by a mile.

What is relevant, is that John Hugley draws more fouls than any other player in all of college basketball.

No, John is not Elite. He is very very good considering this is his first full season when comparing him to other players playing their first full season.

Lots of words to agree

 

[TheWerewolfFromTwilight]

You are comparing a player that is his playing his first full season to players that have played college basketball for 3 or 4 years already.

Compare freshmen to freshmen or first year players to first year players. Big John has 3 more years to play after this year. He isnt a redshirt junior or senior.

Big John has basically made most people eat crow already and his college career has just started.

He's a second-year player. Regardless of whether or not he played a full season last year, there is a certain physical maturity that comes with that extra year.

 

[mo cheeks]

The shooting percentages are irreverent when one player gets double and triple teamed more than any other big in the country by a mile.

What is relevant, is that John Hugley draws more fouls than any other player in all of college basketball.

No, John is not Elite. He is very very good considering this is his first full season when comparing him to other players playing their first full season.

John has the potential to be elite. He has made a huge jump, physically, mentally and skill wise from a year ago. If he has the right attitude, works on his game and on his body, like Sam Young did, he could be elite and have a chance at an NBA career. Cockburn and Tschwiebe are going to be in the NBA. If Dosunmu from Illinois had not gone to the NBA, Illinois would be a favorite for the Natl championship.

 

[Fsgolfdr]

The shooting percentages are irreverent when one player gets double and triple teamed more than any other big in the country by a mile.

What is relevant, is that John Hugley draws more fouls than any other player in all of college basketball.

No, John is not Elite. He is very very good considering this is his first full season when comparing him to other players playing their first full season.

Pitt finally has a player to build a team around who other teams need to double and triple team to neutralize . How dare you say anything positive about Pitt bb , a player or coach !

The amount of improvement from last yr by Big John , even though his play was limited last season , to this yr is a testament to his work effort , his innate talent and coaching .

Stating that he couldn’t overcome being triple teamed by Syracuse as proof he’s not special or that his shooting percentage is only 45% while being constantly hacked is a jaded opinion. Just because people want a change at coach doesn’t change the fact Pitt has a very valuable player .

The kids a beast that’s only going to improve and if Pitt gets Horton back this yr Pitt can be a very dangerous team for anyone to play .

With Horton and Nike ( if he comes back healthy) or another shooter next season should be the yr Pitts been looking forward too for a long time . Hugley , Burton , Horton , Femi plus Nike or a portal player or two looks pretty promising.

Puzzling why anyone who calls themselves a Pitt bb fan isn’t starting to become optimistic about the future of Big John and Pitt bb .

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

Lol. He’s shooting 45 percent from the field and is terribly inefficient. He won’t be all ACC because there are several bigs in the ACC better. You’re awfully bad at this

Dude, he's a Redshirt Freshman playing against teams whose sole game plan is to stop him. Did you hear Chris Mack's postgame?

There are very few Centers in college basketball better than Big John and he WILL be the best returning Center next season, pre-season 1st Team All-ACC, and potentially an All-American. The kid has just about as good of an offensive skillset as a college basketball player can have. He does need to work on defense and rebounding but the kid's a freshman.

Your downplaying of Hugley as a recruit is going to go down as one of your worst, maybe your worst of all time. He will go down as one of Pitt's best post players of all time.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

He’s shooting 56%
Hugley is shooting 45% from the field

He’s playing half the minutes of Hugley and have nearly 6x the blocks and more rebounds per minute
I’m really glad John’son our team
He’s a really good player
But he’s a high volume player - not an elite big

Miami , FSU , UNC, and Duke will eat his lunch .
Cuse already did and will likely do again in the rematch

Yea, uh, this is where your lack of basketball knowledge does you in. At least BballinsiderfromPitt knows basketball. He just doesn't apply it. You simply don't have the knowledge. BballinsiderfromPitt is like the guy who studies for a basketball test, gets As but doesn't know how to apply it in the real world. You are the guy who gets Cs.

Syracuse plays a zone, designed specifically to pack the middle, put bodies around Hugley, and make you beat them from 3. 1 bad game vs a Zone team doesn't define a Freshman Center. You are really bad at this.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

Pitt finally has a player to build a team around who other teams need to double and triple team to neutralize . How dare you say anything positive about Pitt bb , a player or coach !

The amount of improvement from last yr by Big John , even though his play was limited last season , to this yr is a testament to his work effort , his innate talent and coaching .

Stating that he couldn’t overcome being triple teamed by Syracuse as proof he’s not special or that his shooting percentage is only 45% while being constantly hacked is a jaded opinion. Just because people want a change at coach doesn’t change the fact Pitt has a very valuable player .

The kids a beast that’s only going to improve and if Pitt gets Horton back this yr Pitt can be a very dangerous team for anyone to play .

With Horton and Nike ( if he comes back healthy) or another shooter next season should be the yr Pitts been looking forward too for a long time . Hugley , Burton , Horton , Femi plus Nike or a portal player or two looks pretty promising.

Puzzling why anyone who calls themselves a Pitt bb fan isn’t starting to become optimistic about the future of Big John and Pitt bb .

I don't understand why people want to downplay Hugley? People saying "well he's no Cockburn or Tshiebwe." What? Those are old multi-year college basketball stars. And some of his metrics are up there with them. They're better right now but so what. He is elite or at least very close to being elite right now with All-American potential. Pitt has not had a Center with his specific offensive skillset since....I dont know, Charles Smith.

 

[Pittisit4me]

Why do we argue about this? I don't care if you consider him elite or not. What cannot be debated is that he is the best 5 to play at Pitt in a long time and he is just a first year sophomore. We should be rejoicing that we have a real 5. A guy who is not a stiff. I mean, other teams feel the need to double and triple him and you don't do that to average players. He is skilled, but it is that body that makes him special. If he gets his playing weight down to around 255 and stays here for next season, we might be able to use the word "elite".
I should also add that his hands are like a steel trap. It is refreshing to see, considering our most recent bigs
had boards for hands.

 

[TD_6082]

He’s shooting 56%
Hugley is shooting 45% from the field

He’s playing half the minutes of Hugley and have nearly 6x the blocks and more rebounds per minute
I’m really glad John’son our team
He’s a really good player
But he’s a high volume player - not an elite big

Miami , FSU , UNC, and Duke will eat his lunch .
Cuse already did and will likely do again in the rematch

They are different type players and UVA is more system oriented.

Shedrick is a better defender, rim protector, rebounder, and better at coming up with loose balls. UVA isn't trying to run their offense through him though, and he isn't necessarily looking to score when he gets the down low unless it's a high percentage shot. He's starting to lose minutes to Caffaro though. Hopefully those two will continue to improve and maybe get the Cavs back to some form of respectability next year. This team is really painful to watch.