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I may not renew my season tickets.

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I can't believe I'm thinking of not renewing after so many years of sticking with the team. But why should I drive into the city to suffer watching so many really bad games. Is the occasional good win worth it? I thought so until last night. With ZERO recruits coming in, I struggle to see next year being any better. Will the transfer portal come through? I'm hoping some of yinz can convince me to keep my tickets.
 
I can't believe I'm thinking of not renewing after so many years of sticking with the team. But why should I drive into the city to suffer watching so many really bad games. Is the occasional good win worth it? I thought so until last night. With ZERO recruits coming in, I struggle to see next year being any better. Will the transfer portal come through? I'm hoping some of yinz can convince me to keep my tickets.

I think a lot of people are at the same crossroads.

I’m trying to justify the $1200 investment to watch them struggle myself.

I think June is the cutoff. So there’s time to see what changes may come.
 
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Too bad Heather can’t get advance feedback on season ticket renewals. That would be informative and help her make her decision a lot more than wondering what players are leaving or staying.
 
Too bad Heather can’t get advance feedback on season ticket renewals. That would be informative and help her make her decision a lot more than wondering what players are leaving or staying.
Yea, I'm sure she is real concerned that some of the 1500 season ticket holders may not renew. Attendance is going to be God awful next year regardless if Capel is coaching or a lottery ticket and his team picked 15th with all transfers that no one heard of.
 
Yea, I'm sure she is real concerned that some of the 1500 season ticket holders may not renew. Attendance is going to be God awful next year regardless if Capel is coaching or a lottery ticket and his team picked 15th with all transfers that no one heard of.
I’d say attendance enters more into her decision-making than the things you keep pushing, like what players are leaving or stating.
 
I’d say attendance enters more into her decision-making than the things you keep pushing, like what players are leaving or stating.
So you think a decision to keep Capel rests on selling 1500 season tickets next year with a lottery ticket vs 1000 with Capel?
 
The coach and the coaching staff just don't seem like they can get it done. This group has not recruited well. How are they going to sell recruits now with the program being down. The team doesn't have bench the same players are on the floor. The lack of intensity on defense and focus on the offense have been a stable of the program including this year. AD will have to make a big decision after the season.
 
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Yea, I'm sure she is real concerned that some of the 1500 season ticket holders may not renew. Attendance is going to be God awful next year regardless if Capel is coaching or a lottery ticket and his team picked 15th with all transfers that no one heard of.
There are a lot more than 1500 season ticket holders. Can't you ever just shut up when you don't know what you are talking about?
 
I'm going to email the AD office. One thing that annoys me this year is that, unlike in previous years, I am not being offered a chance to move down from 221 when the Pete is poorly attended.
 
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I am a long time season ticket holder as well. Too many games are not fun. Once we we t down by ten it was over . The players don’t look like they care . This is all in heather 1000% but you dbags have been kissing her ass from day one
 
Heather was sitting court-side last night in front of our group. I hope she had as much fun as I did when I left with 10 minutes left. We actually have a lot of season ticket holders. I changed my seats this past year so I had access to a seat map of open seats available. There were not that many lower bowl seats open. Yet this season hardly anyone is sitting around my seats. At least I feel comfortable not catching Covid since no one is close.
Heather made a mistake last year when they reseated the Pete. They allowed 200 sponsors/big donators to pick seats prior to the official opening of seating lottery. Those 200 took 2000 seats prior to the rest of us long time season ticket holders a chance to pick our seats. I look at those seats now and hardly anyone is sitting in those seats. They are the first 10 rows in the lower bowl.
 
Yeah we aren’t. Can’t keep driving 2hrs each way 15 times each season + football games if we aren’t serious about winning.

And the ticket prices are astronomically high. Top 3 season ticket prices and bottom 3 product.
 
Heather was sitting court-side last night in front of our group. I hope she had as much fun as I did when I left with 10 minutes left. We actually have a lot of season ticket holders. I changed my seats this past year so I had access to a seat map of open seats available. There were not that many lower bowl seats open. Yet this season hardly anyone is sitting around my seats. At least I feel comfortable not catching Covid since no one is close.
Heather made a mistake last year when they reseated the Pete. They allowed 200 sponsors/big donators to pick seats prior to the official opening of seating lottery. Those 200 took 2000 seats prior to the rest of us long time season ticket holders a chance to pick our seats. I look at those seats now and hardly anyone is sitting in those seats. They are the first 10 rows in the lower bowl.

Right now I would guess 6000 - 8000 season ticket holders (as in # of seats sold) is the # based on the reseat process as well.
 
So you think a decision to keep Capel rests on selling 1500 season tickets next year with a lottery ticket vs 1000 with Capel?
I’d say her decision rests on the prospects for future season ticket sales, or ticket sales/attendance in general. Are they going to stay the same, go up or go down based on what action she decides to take or not take.

And I bet she’s more concerned with what action will improve things, not what will keep things the same. And let’s add ‘long term’ not just an immediate 1-year impact.
 
I can't believe I'm thinking of not renewing after so many years of sticking with the team. But why should I drive into the city to suffer watching so many really bad games. Is the occasional good win worth it? I thought so until last night. With ZERO recruits coming in, I struggle to see next year being any better. Will the transfer portal come through? I'm hoping some of yinz can convince me to keep my tickets.

totally understand, but SEC schools give more money when the chips are down to improve things and possibly can the loser coach. Different mentality here to do less until things improve.
 
I am a long time season ticket holder as well. Too many games are not fun. Once we we t down by ten it was over . The players don’t look like they care . This is all in heather 1000% but you dbags have been kissing her ass from day one

Both basketball hires appear very bad. I think she gets a second chance to get it right. If the next one doesn't work, well then there is a problem. She's lucky Narduzzi was able to turn things around after WMU fiasco. Otherwise it would be really ugly.
 
Right now I would guess 6000 - 8000 season ticket holders (as in # of seats sold) is the # based on the reseat process as well.
Maybe their strategy is block off certain sections to appear like immediate action is required by you before you lose the opportunity to buy the seats you want .

I doubt that 6000 season ticket holders are choosing to pay and never attend games .
 
Right now I would guess 6000 - 8000 season ticket holders (as in # of seats sold) is the # based on the reseat process as well.
No effing way its that hight. For one, they sold almost none in the upper deck. 3K tops. They were probably only at 9K-10K at the end of Dixon and you think they only lost 2K?
 
it is one thing to go and watch the pirates lose a non-competitive game, because a nice summer evening at PNC park is hard to beat.

walking up cardiac hill in 30 degree temperatures to watch a non competitive game when its dark and gloomy? not so much.
 
it is one thing to go and watch the pirates lose a non-competitive game, because a nice summer evening at PNC park is hard to beat.

walking up cardiac hill in 30 degree temperatures to watch a non competitive game when its dark and gloomy? not so much.

Yep. Attendance doesn't factor it. Its going to be really bad next year with Capel or the lottery ticket.

This is all a waste of time. I personally guarantee that if Capel returns his best players, he is back. 1 million percent. Even BballinsiderfromPitt agrees and we never agree on anything.

Capel has 1 year to get to the NCAAT or darn close.
 
I was in the city early and prepared to go to the game. Found a free parking spot and was walking to the shuttle. I noted it was chilly and wet, and I calculated the prospects of another dud like GT. Turned around, went home, checked the score and went to bed. THAT HAS NOT HAPPENED IN 40 YEARS of holding season tix. Gameday, I show up. But now I don't care any more. Easier to scrape cheap tix on the aftermarket.
 
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Maybe their strategy is block off certain sections to appear like immediate action is required by you before you lose the opportunity to buy the seats you want .

I doubt that 6000 season ticket holders are choosing to pay and never attend games .
At least 2000 season tickets are in the hands of businesses, sponsors, and those using tickets for their guests. Right now those seats are mostly empty because they cannot give the seats away. I have missed very few home games since Buzz Ridl became coach in 1968. Season tickets past 50 years. Last year and again this year I have missed games to do other activities and cannot even give my tickets away. Last night’s game I did not even care when we were down by twenty. I just got up and left.
 
it is one thing to go and watch the pirates lose a non-competitive game, because a nice summer evening at PNC park is hard to beat.

walking up cardiac hill in 30 degree temperatures to watch a non competitive game when its dark and gloomy? not so much.

Pretty much my thoughts exactly. I'm trying to think of how much someone would have to pay me to attend a Pitt basketball game right now. That sounds arrogant, but I'm dead serious. I think I would go for $300, but probably not for much less than that.

As for Heather, I have to imagine she is safe for a long time. We just had our best football season in 40 years, and she's resurrected our non-revenue sports from the jaws of death.
 
I can't believe I'm thinking of not renewing after so many years of sticking with the team. But why should I drive into the city to suffer watching so many really bad games. Is the occasional good win worth it? I thought so until last night. With ZERO recruits coming in, I struggle to see next year being any better. Will the transfer portal come through? I'm hoping some of yinz can convince me to keep my tickets.

Dumped my after Stallings was hired. Sent an email with an explanation of why at the time to the clown who hired him.

They were a few rows off the court; my only concern was getting similar seats later. No worries at this point.
 
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I didn't renew my tix for this season, but for some reason, they kept them in my account with a blance due. It tool me at least 3 conversations with the ticket office to get them out of mt acct, and it finally happened a wk or 2 ago. So just bc seats weren't available to purchase, it doesn't necessarily mean that they were sold. My seats were lower leval sideline.
 
Interestingly, they were trying to sell season ticket holders memberships in the IC Light Baseline Club for either $ 59 or $ 79 per month for five months. On the other hand, anyone could buy a ticket to a game and be seated in the club. For conference games they were $ 35 for a weeknight game and $ 60 for a weekend, but I think they were only about $ 15 for most non-conference games. For two seats you could probably buy two club tickets for every game instead of buying season tickets and save about $ 400. And that's not including the required donation to buy season tickets.

I believe the food vendor was selling the seats for the IC Light Club rather than Pitt, but it was a better deal for non-season ticket holders. I inquired about it once at the beginning of the season and the ticket office didn't seem to know much about it.
 
Please do not renew them we don't need fans like you. Don't jump back on the banned wagon when this gets turned back around!
 
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You every watch the Movie Boyz in the Hood. The young recruits all the young recruits in America Spell, this wasn't a graded essay smh. 🤣
 
I'm going to email the AD office. One thing that annoys me this year is that, unlike in previous years, I am not being offered a chance to move down from 221 when the Pete is poorly attended.
Other than maybe the Duke game, you can sit almost anywhere in the lower bowl at tip off For any game this year.
 
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I’d say her decision rests on the prospects for future season ticket sales, or ticket sales/attendance in general. Are they going to stay the same, go up or go down based on what action she decides to take or not take.

And I bet she’s more concerned with what action will improve things, not what will keep things the same. And let’s add ‘long term’ not just an immediate 1-year impact.
I think this is correct. Every SMF post seems to only factor in 2022-23, probably a long season regardless of coach, which I think most everyone understands that.
 
it is one thing to go and watch the pirates lose a non-competitive game, because a nice summer evening at PNC park is hard to beat.

walking up cardiac hill in 30 degree temperatures to watch a non competitive game when its dark and gloomy? not so much.
Bingo. For the Bucs I can park free at the casino nearly any time. Or find cheap metered parking near CCAC, Ticket might be $19. For Pitt hoops, I'm $10 in the hole for parking off the bat unless it's a late start. I used t park at Carnegie Mellon or near Phipps for free but those options are gone. It's a tough ask to toss good money down the drain 18 times each winter.
 
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