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We haven't heard a lot out of camp but it appears that these one of these 2 NA grads will start at one of the outside linebacker spots. Does anyone know anything about this Idowu kid? I never heard of him until this past Spring.

To be honest, it is concerning that a converted WR who didnt even play LB in HS and a walk-on can rise to the top of the LB depth chart.
 
We haven't heard a lot out of camp but it appears that these one of these 2 NA grads will start at one of the outside linebacker spots. Does anyone know anything about this Idowu kid? I never heard of him until this past Spring.

To be honest, it is concerning that a converted WR who didnt even play LB in HS and a walk-on can rise to the top of the LB depth chart.
No it is not unusual for Top Athletes that have speed, agility, and size can become a Linebacker. Often Running Backs in High School play Linebacker like PSU Poluszny at Hopewell, also Tony Dorsett actually was Monster Man Linebacker in 5-2 Oklahoma Defense at Hopewell in his first year more than RB.

The Bigger Players that have size and speed can easily adapt to Linebacker and the smaller one often becomes a Defensive Back like Revis did when he played QB and multiple positions at Aliquippa.

Russ Grimm that played QB in College told Jackie Sherrill he will become a Linebacker until Jackie told him no you will become an Offensive Linemen, Russ objected and Jackie told him, this is not up for discussion, son? Russ attributed that to Jackie in his HOF Speech and changed his life and made him a better Player.

The facts are often QBs, RBs, TEs, and WRs in High School can easily switch to Linebacker and Defensive Backs. But becoming a DL & OL takes more time and building up the body.

Being a LB involves reading the backs, dropping into coverage, reading OL blocks and breaking blocks while reading the play. Also being able to remember the playbook as a MLB you would be pretty much the leader of the defense.

Linebackers have the speed, strength, and studying the Offensive schemes of other team during prep week. Linebackers need to predict and practice what happens on a counter play, or what the full back does on a pass play, or what play they run the most of out of a 3 Wideout set, or when they motion the TE to the opposite side.

Coaching prep and sideline game coaching is very important because the Linebackers must constantly adjust to what the other team does in changing their own Game Plans during the game. Often Half-time Adjustments that win a game is because the reads, adaptability, and changes made at Linebacker Coverage. The Linebacker must be fast or quick enough to be able to cover the runs and short passes, plus pressure and Biltz the QB!

It requires an Athlete that may not be fast enough to be great WR, or can't catch as well at RBs or lacks vision in running, as well can't catch or run pass routes as other Wideouts, but because they were RBs and WRs, can react and make reads and most importantly make the tackles that disrupts the Plays by being a Linebacker instead of being Back-Up at WR or RB. It is an opportunity to play right away.

Often Linebackers in High School can become DE or DL in CFB and then go back being a LB in NFL. This is what Hugh Green, Rickey Jackson and Chris Doleman did and quickness and mental smarts reading ahead of time allows disruptions of Offenses.
 
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No it is not unusual for Top Athletes that have speed, agility, and size can become a Linebacker. Often Running Backs in High School play Linebacker like PSU Poluszny at Hopewell, also Tony Dorsett actually was Monster Man Linebacker in 5-2 Oklahoma Defense at Hopewell.

The Bigger Players that have size and speed can easily adapt to Linebacker and te\he smaller one often becomes a Defensive Back like Revis did when he played QB and multiple positions at Aliquippa.

Russ Grimm that played QB in College told Jackie Sherrill he will become a Linebacker until Jackie told him no you will become an Offensive Linemen, Russ objected and Jackie told him, this is up for discussion, son. Russ attributed that Jackie in his OF Speech and changed his life and made him a better Player.

The facts are often QBs, RBs, TEs, and WRs in High School can easily switch to Linebacker and Defensive Backs. But becoming a DL & OL takes more time and building up the body.

Being a LB involves reading the backs, dropping into coverage, reading OL blocks and breaking blocks while reading the play. Also being able to remember the playbook as a MLB you would be pretty much the leader of the defense.

Linebackers have the speed, strength, and studying the Offensive schemes of other team during prep week. Linebackers need to predict and practice what happens on a counter play, or what the full back does on a pass play, or what play they run the most of out of a 3 Wideout set, or when they motion the TE to the opposite side.

Coaching prep and sideline game coaching is very important because the Linebackers must constantly adjust to what the other team does in changing their own Game Plans during the game. Often Half-time Adjustments that win a game is because the reads, adaptability, and changes made at Linebacker Coverage. The Linebacker must be fast or quick enough to be able to cover the runs and short passes, plus pressure and Biltz the QB!

It requires an Athlete that may not be fast enough to be great WR, or can't catch as well at RBs or lacks vision in running, as well can't catch or run pass routes as other Wideouts, but because they were RBs and WRs, can react and make reads and most importantly make the tackles that disrupts the Plays by being a Linebacker instead of being Back-Up at WR or RB. It is an opportunity to play right away.

Often Linebackers in High School can become DE or DL in CFB and then go back being a LB in NFL. This is what Hugh Green, Rickey Jackson and Chris Doleman did and quickness and mental smarts reading ahead of time allows disruptions of Offenses.
I was talking to a guy at the local watering hole awhile ago and he was a Wash high guy. Of course Brian Davis popped up and he played with him. He told me with a straight face, for as great as Brian was at RB, he was an even better LB. I asked him if his former coach was an anti pitt guy and he looked at me weird.. I bought him a shot of jameson after that and the rest of the conversation gets fuzzy..
 
LB is going to be another year of non athletic players! The inability of Brightwell and McKee not being able to put on weight is concerning. Bradley seems to need too much prodding to work hard. JMOs
 
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LB is going to be another year of non athletic players! The inability of Brightwell and McKee not being able to put on weight is concerning. Bradley seems to need too much prodding to work hard. JMOs
Looks like they really went after some Star type players with this recruiting class. Maybe someone like Miller or Campbell can grow into this as well.

Do we know if Pine or Pugh has been taking any reps there this summer? For some reason I see both of them projected more as a money backer but I am far from an expert on this.
 
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It is a hard order for a true freshman to play at LB. Maybe as the season progresses we will see a progress from the youngsters.but I think we are stuck right now with the same starters as last year.




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We haven't heard a lot out of camp but it appears that these one of these 2 NA grads will start at one of the outside linebacker spots. Does anyone know anything about this Idowu kid? I never heard of him until this past Spring.

To be honest, it is concerning that a converted WR who didnt even play LB in HS and a walk-on can rise to the top of the LB depth chart.
Zeise was a very good DB in high school. Good nose for the ball and a good hitter. Doesn't surprise me to see him doing well.
 
LB is going to be another year of non athletic players! The inability of Brightwell and McKee not being able to put on weight is concerning. Bradley seems to need too much prodding to work hard. JMOs
It is my biggest concern for the PSU game. They will have to be able to read, react, and then tackle Barkley, Hamilton, Sanders, Godwin, McSorley and other PSU Top Talent and Experience Speed Burners. One wrong read, being out of place, or missing a tackle and they will be gone for a TD! If any of the Pitt LBs that prepare for the Game also get injured and New LB with less experience is put in, could be big trouble for Pitt.

Also, the reverse is true, the Penn State Linebackers are smart, experience, fast and quick, and know how to cover, stop the run at scrimmage, and upset the Offensive Line schemes to disrupt them plus will know how to disguise coverage's that can lead to Interceptions. Sure the PSU DL is new and young but the LBs and DBs are tough,fast and experience with being able make important and decisive reads.

Anybody thinking the Penn State Teams of last year will be playing like last year is badly mistaken. they have 4 New Coaches at 4 New Positions, and Pry the DC now was the Former LB Coach. He knows his Players at LB especially and they have the most talent coming up at LB on September 10th.

It will not be an easy game is my predictions due to PSU Skill players on Offense, and LBs and DBs on Defense. All Experienced and Talented and should be well Coached.
 
Zeise was a very good DB in high school. Good nose for the ball and a good hitter. Doesn't surprise me to see him doing well.
Exactly, and his Father is smart, insightful, and one of the best Sports Writers that understands the game and Temple has one of finest Communication Departments among Universities. Zeise was big part of his son's development, just like Larry Fitzgerald and Shady McCoy's Fathers and Mothers.

Smart parents raise Smart Children. It is no accident that there is more than 1 Clay Matthews.
 
We haven't heard a lot out of camp but it appears that these one of these 2 NA grads will start at one of the outside linebacker spots. Does anyone know anything about this Idowu kid? I never heard of him until this past Spring.

To be honest, it is concerning that a converted WR who didnt even play LB in HS and a walk-on can rise to the top of the LB depth chart.

I'm not concerned about Ziese. He is a smart player with good athleticism -- why does it matter what position he played in high school? He looked solid in the spring game.

The situation reminds me a bit of when Pitt switched walk-on WR Austin Ransom to linebacker out of desperation, and he was a solid player beyond anyone's expectations. Ziese may not be a standout, but he won't be a liability. I don't know anything about Idowu.
 
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I was talking to a guy at the local watering hole awhile ago and he was a Wash high guy. Of course Brian Davis popped up and he played with him. He told me with a straight face, for as great as Brian was at RB, he was an even better LB. I asked him if his former coach was an anti pitt guy and he looked at me weird.. I bought him a shot of jameson after that and the rest of the conversation gets fuzzy..
I always though Rushel Shell future was ta Linebacker in the NFL more than Running Back? Just like Terrelle Pryor should have consider becoming a Tight End or Defensive End more than QB and now trying to make it as Wideout?
 
Looks like they really went after some Star type players with this recruiting class. Maybe someone like Miller or Campbell can grow into this as well.

Do we know if Pine or Pugh has been taking any reps there this summer? For some reason I see both of them projected more as a money backer but I am far from an expert on this.
Why I wanted Hudson so bad, but he went to Michigan. Hudson showed all the signs of being a Instant LB Freshmen Starter. I predict he will be in the Michigan Line up by season end, Just a Hunch.

It is rare to have such Great Linebackers become so good so fats from High School to College, but Hugh Green and Rickey Jackson did it, but Jackie put them at DEs because they were so fast, quick, and smart. They played LB in the NFL.

Same with Poluszny at Penn State, he did not start and was put in slowly at PSU in early games but soon one could see he was making tackles at the Line of Scrimmage in the backfield and the PSU improved greatly in 2004 and forward.


I remember Bradley would make comments on the Radio saying how Paul came up to him during a game and said, Sir, may I ask you a question? He responded, cut the Sir out, just ask me anything, and after that Paul's Game just got better and better at LB and he was a Great Running Back in High School too.

Bradley says, Paul was one of the Smartest Players he ever coached? They had Connor and Lee too. PSU won many game son LBs play and DLs!

Pit has had their share too, Ralph Cindrich, Sal Sunseri, and Jerry Olvasky all played on Wits & Smarts and developed into great LBs at Pitt. Schottenheimer, Schmidt, and Doleman too.
 
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Looks like they really went after some Star type players with this recruiting class. Maybe someone like Miller or Campbell can grow into this as well.

Do we know if Pine or Pugh has been taking any reps there this summer? For some reason I see both of them projected more as a money backer but I am far from an expert on this.
You'll get some LB talent here when we start pulling some DL talent.
 
We haven't heard a lot out of camp but it appears that these one of these 2 NA grads will start at one of the outside linebacker spots. Does anyone know anything about this Idowu kid? I never heard of him until this past Spring.

To be honest, it is concerning that a converted WR who didnt even play LB in HS and a walk-on can rise to the top of the LB depth chart.

One thing is for sure... Zeise made the right decision to agree to the position switch. At WORST he is second team instead of battling 14 WR for a slot on the 3rd team
 
I always though Rushel Shell future was ta Linebacker in the NFL more than Running Back? Just like Terrelle Pryor should have consider becoming a Tight End or Defensive End more than QB and now trying to make it as Wideout?

I watched Shell play against my kid's HS and that was the thought to me also, better LB than a RB, and he tore it up at RB...
 
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I watched Shell play against my kid's HS and that was the thought to me also, better LB than a RB, and he tore it up at RB...
I had this debate two years ago and pretty much some Posters felt otherwise. I still think i am right, but whether Shell has the attitude to become a Linebacker in CFB I doubt he can make an adjustment in the NFL. I think he has to have a great year in RB and will be Drafted.

He was able to run over so many Players in High School, but not the same in CFB, and far tougher in the NFL. I think he messed up his own attitude too, and part of his problem now unless he resolves it.

All I know is Conner was so much more dependable and he is outright head and shoulder over Shell now.
 
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One thing is for sure... Zeise made the right decision to agree to the position switch. At WORST he is second team instead of battling 14 WR for a slot on the 3rd team
I think he will play on Sunday at LB. Potential is very good and I think you will see him this year in and out! Just a Hunch!

A Top Sports Lawyer once told me, that the most Talented Player Does Not Always play in the NFL, but the Smartest Players Always Plays in the NFL and far longer. Mistakes matter in Winning or Losing in the NFL, make them, or don't show up, you will be gone sooner not later.

Martavis is undependable due to his refusal to follow just basic rules and had to be called out to perform last year? Not here now, why depend on his talent when he can't play?

Sammie Coates his replacement is just as fast, but keeps making drops, running wrong routes, and can't out leaped his defender allowing them to get in front of him? Rogers is just working hard getting better every practice.

Same with Bell, what a whiner, can't make a Drug Test Appointment and now cries it is not his fault, and won't be playing first game again. Talented you bet, dependable, not so much, dumb judgment, poor discipline, and not there to help his team, just helping himself and if you can't play for any reason you have no talent?

Plaxico had to shoot himself in his Ass and go to Prison to learn and change his Attitude and did to his credit but only a few years left at his older age. Could have been way better if he had his Smarts and Talent together all the time. Like Fitzgerald!

Vick was powerfully talented but just never developed as his attitude went to the dogs, and it took Prison to reset his own attitude to get and be better, and by the time he was doing it, he was too old!

Limas Sweed was another whiner and lacked attitude and smarts and thus No Talent even at 4.3 that may have been his IQ more than his 40 dash number!

Maziel has his own Father and Family worried about his mental health and none of his talent, he has no idea that breaking his girlfriend Ear Drum, alone has negated his Talent for the NFL?

Big Ben was having the same problems with Motorcycles and Millions paid for Legal Fees alleged Date Rapes and Millions more lost in Endorsements his Young & Dumb even with a Big Football Head & Heart set him back.

I am very worried now on the Steelers now, they lost one smart and tough and dependably player in Heath Miller and they will miss him this year. Also, Antonio Brown Contract Demands, Dancing with the Stars, and Roll Royce driving has shown could be more distractions than his focus on the game? Also, bragging a year ago how he prepares for games to beat his defender was just stupid. You do that after you retire in a Book, not for some media gig?

Notice how Brady, Rogers, Luck, and Manning reacted after throwing a Interception, you can't near them, they know they made a mistake, don't try and console them, just let them get over it, and you see them with anger in their face and they are only upset with one person, them! These are Winners that focus on Game and Game Plans and all Game Long!




 
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I watched Shell since he was in middle school ( my kid played against him every year all the way up. He is 5'10 tops. No way the size your looking for at the linebacker spot.
Shell is playing exactly where he should be. At running back. If the kid didn't let people chirp in his ear and became committed 110 percent. He would be special
 
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I watched Shell since he was in middle school ( my kid played against him every year all the way up. He is 5'10 tops. No way the size your looking for at the linebacker spot.
Shell is playing exactly where he should be. At running back. If the kid didn't let people chirp in his ear and became committed 110 percent. He would be special
Sam Mills, Zachary Thomas, and London Fletcher all had good, long careers in the NFL. There are many others around 6 feet tall that were good LB'ers. If you can ball, then you can ball.

Shell is a poor man's Mo Clarett. He does not have the speed or elusiveness to be elite at the college level or beyond.
 
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I watched Shell since he was in middle school ( my kid played against him every year all the way up. He is 5'10 tops. No way the size your looking for at the linebacker spot.
Shell is playing exactly where he should be. At running back. If the kid didn't let people chirp in his ear and became committed 110 percent. He would be special
Agree, size helps and matters and like I said too late now for shell to adapt and adopt LB Skills, and agree again he will be special when he decides to be focused on FB. There have been few undersized LB in the NFL that did well, but size helps cover passing lanes easier when you raise tall hands!

WVU got him because no one else wanted him, because he was a disruption of Hissy Fits at Pitt, and Chryst was right to dump him!
 
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Sam Mills, Zachary Thomas, and London Fletcher all had good, long careers in the NFL. There are many others around 6 feet tall that were good LB'ers. If you can ball, then you can ball.

Shell is a poor man's Mo Clarett. He does not have the speed or elusiveness to be elite at the college level or beyond.
Beat me to it on size, but interesting comments on Shell being a poor man's Mo Clarett???? Clarett had so much talent and so much head games, he took himself out of the game? Tressel has helped him make big reforms and he has nicer life now. I respect Jim Tressel so much, if Narduzzi (Bloody Not Likely) ever left Pitt, that would be my Coach for Pitt
 
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We haven't heard a lot out of camp but it appears that these one of these 2 NA grads will start at one of the outside linebacker spots. Does anyone know anything about this Idowu kid? I never heard of him until this past Spring.

To be honest, it is concerning that a converted WR who didnt even play LB in HS and a walk-on can rise to the top of the LB depth chart.

Zeise was a superb defensive player in high school who I thought would be playing safety in college. He shouldn't have been a WR in the first place. I am not concerned one iota about Zeise's ability.
 
Why I wanted Hudson so bad, but he went to Michigan. Hudson showed all the signs of being a Instant LB Freshmen Starter. I predict he will be in the Michigan Line up by season end, Just a Hunch.

It is rare to have such Great Linebackers become so good so fats from High School to College, but Hugh Green and Rickey Jackson did it, but Jackie put them at DEs because they were so fast, quick, and smart. They played LB in the NFL.

Same with Poluszny at Penn State, he did not start and was put in slowly at PSU in early games but soon one could see he was making tackles at the Line of Scrimmage in the backfield and the PSU improved greatly in 2004 and forward.


I remember Bradley would make comments on the Radio saying how Paul came up to him during a game and said, Sir, may I ask you a question? He responded, cut the Sir out, just ask me anything, and after that Paul's Game just got better and better at LB and he was a Great Running Back in High School too.

Bradley says, Paul was one of the Smartest Players he ever coached? They had Connor and Lee too. PSU won many game son LBs play and DLs!

Pit has had their share too, Ralph Cindrich, Sal Sunseri, and Jerry Olvasky all played on Wits & Smarts and developed into great LBs at Pitt. Schottenheimer, Schmidt, and Doleman too.

Hudson was the absolute prototype for Nard's Star LB.
 
Zeise was a superb defensive player in high school who I thought would be playing safety in college. He shouldn't have been a WR in the first place. I am not concerned one iota about Zeise's ability.

They had to honor his desire to try to be a WR, but I had him pegged for defense all along, too.
 
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We haven't heard a lot out of camp but it appears that these one of these 2 NA grads will start at one of the outside linebacker spots. Does anyone know anything about this Idowu kid? I never heard of him until this past Spring.

To be honest, it is concerning that a converted WR who didnt even play LB in HS and a walk-on can rise to the top of the LB depth chart.

Zeise needs to work on his body to be a defender, but he has the right height/build, athleticism and moxie that the position requires. It was a good move for him and the team to go to LB and try to take the Star spot. I suspect he is going to be a pdg player there.
 
The question shouldn't be can Zeise or Idowu do it, the question should be why the hell are we relying upon a converted WR and a walk-on to battle it out for the starting LB spot? What the hell were those 2 morons doing before.
 
It is my biggest concern for the PSU game. They will have to be able to read, react, and then tackle Barkley, Hamilton, Sanders, Godwin, McSorley and other PSU Top Talent and Experience Speed Burners. One wrong read, being out of place, or missing a tackle and they will be gone for a TD! If any of the Pitt LBs that prepare for the Game also get injured and New LB with less experience is put in, could be big trouble for Pitt.

Also, the reverse is true, the Penn State Linebackers are smart, experience, fast and quick, and know how to cover, stop the run at scrimmage, and upset the Offensive Line schemes to disrupt them plus will know how to disguise coverage's that can lead to Interceptions. Sure the PSU DL is new and young but the LBs and DBs are tough,fast and experience with being able make important and decisive reads.

Anybody thinking the Penn State Teams of last year will be playing like last year is badly mistaken. they have 4 New Coaches at 4 New Positions, and Pry the DC now was the Former LB Coach. He knows his Players at LB especially and they have the most talent coming up at LB on September 10th.

It will not be an easy game is my predictions due to PSU Skill players on Offense, and LBs and DBs on Defense. All Experienced and Talented and should be well Coached.
No not an easy game. But a new staff does not equate to a better game day. I do not see Franklin posing any real threat to PN but the talent on Ped State;s side of the ball on defense is better than ours.

But its our o line which is real good to their front 7. Is that an equal match?? Throw in our RB stable and I think we may have the edge there. Peterman is OK too and can make a play or two.

PED State has better receivers for sure but a new QB who has yet to start. Their RBs Barkley in particular will score on our D.

But is HCPN as good as we think he is? I think maybe better than the Ped State staff and I mean across the board. I think our D coaching will do well no matter who we play.

Close yeah. But the Paterno freak is gone and he for sure had Pitt's #. Not so sire about Franklin.

Hail to Pitt
 
The right answer.



The question shouldn't be can Zeise or Idowu do it, the question should be why the hell are we relying upon a converted WR and a walk-on to battle it out for the starting LB spot? What the hell were those 2 morons doing before.
 
Hudson was the absolute prototype for Nard's Star LB.
How Hudson chose not to come to Pitt to play right away under Narduzzi I will never know. i respect he chose Michigan and that was best for him, and no doubt Harbaugh is also a great coach to play for, but if you have Great Talent, Pitt is It for you.

Fitzgerald knew it, Revis follow it, Shady Made it, Donald did it, Boyd caught it, Conner Thankful for it, and Whitehead is doing it, Boy do I wish Foster, Sanders and Hudson would have been on this Squad right now!
 
What I like about Zeise on defense is that we'll have a linebacker who had good hands. We've been so desperate for playmakers on defense; maybe Zeise can snag a few interceptions that can turn some games around.
Good receiving hands are about 25th on the list of attributes that are important to playing the LB position. Just a bonus if they have 'em. Instincts, speed, lateral quickness, agility, explosiveness, good size, physical toughness, Intelligence, aggression. Good receiving hands would be somewhere downstream of all that stuff.
 
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Good receiving hands are about 25th on the list of attributes that are important to playing the LB position. Just a bonus if they have 'em. Instincts, speed, lateral quickness, agility, explosiveness, good size, physical toughness, Intelligence, aggression. Good receiving hands would be somewhere downstream of all that stuff.
I agree. But it's a foregone conclusion that if he's getting plenty of playing time, he'd have those things that you named.

For me, a player with hands is the difference between the defensive player who gets in position and makes the key interception and a guy like Ike "No Hands" Taylor, who would be in position but would only knock 'em down.
 
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Good receiving hands are about 25th on the list of attributes that are important to playing the LB position. Just a bonus if they have 'em. Instincts, speed, lateral quickness, agility, explosiveness, good size, physical toughness, Intelligence, aggression. Good receiving hands would be somewhere downstream of all that stuff.
The way I read it and agree with and think Joe The Panther Fan is saying that Zeise has the speed, lateral quickness, agility, explosiveness, good size .....and all the attributes but those Hands will just make Zeise better. I know you & JTPF can agree that Zeise needs much more development, experience, and learning the position and will get bigger and stronger but in my opinion, he will do just that and we shall see.
 
I agree. But it's a foregone conclusion that if he's getting plenty of playing time, he'd have those things that you named.

For me, a player with hands is the difference between the defensive player who gets in position and makes the key interception and a guy like Ike "No Hands" Taylor, who would be in position but would only knock 'em down.
We have all heard it a 1,000 times watching the NFL and CFB those with size, speed, quickness, and would make great RBs or WRs but can't Catch, end up Defensive Backs and Linebackers and even they can, if the teams already has a number WRs,& RBs, but not LBS just yet, the best Three Recruits come from RBs, WRs, and Athletes.

Remember, when Paterno had plenty of other recruits at positions, he wanted to make QBs Kendra, Kelly, and Hostetler Linebackers they said no way, he wanted to make Dorsett a Defensive Back?

In fact he did make a great RBs in Justin King a DB after having he played great at WRs and RBs. He also moved Matt Millien, Bruce Clark from LBs to DLs. And made some other LBs to Strong Safety. I often thought he should have left be where they were Great but they worked out anyway and in the NFL, but still think King would have been a better RBs, and we know Kelly and Hostetler did do better at QB than LBs.

Most of all Dorsett would have been a Super DB No Question about It.....However, one can't argue he was better at RB Winning the Heisman, Breaking NCAA & NFL Rushing Records, Help Pitt Win the National Championship 6 years before Paterno won his first one, and Dorsett is in the NFL & CFB HOF and won a Super Bowl, Kelly is HOF too. Paterno did produce more Winning Teams but Never produced the Caliber of Players Pitt with NCAA & NFL Records and HOF did at various positions.

Paterno was by no means right but his Large Rosters, Redshirts, and Walk-Ons Numbers allowed him to play and cahnge Players Positions and Futures? Joe might of made Larry Fitzgerald a Tight End or Linebacker? LOL!:eek:;)


I'll leave it to Narduzzi & Staff to decide if Zeise is right for Linebacker but it is mostly on Zeise to make that right fit to become a Kline backer for Pitt!

We shall see but I have a Hunch Zeise Will playing on Sunday at LB! not a Guess either, just a Hunch!
 
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Really? Have you watched our linebackers the last few years?
Why I really wanted Hudson this year, and hope LB David Adams Commit to ND changes his mind this year, and there is a Monster Linebacker in Erie in Matthew Bauer, that is also Committed right now to ND, since Conner is from Erie, Hope he changes Matt Mind and shows him Pitt Can be It for him too?

Cathedral Prep School has produced many great recruits and players for Pitt:
LINK:

https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/18050

I'll leave it to experts on Recruiting on the Lair if they think there can be a change in Time some mighty Fine Recruits are going to ND in 2017 and 2018, and if they came to Pitt they could produce a Top 20 Class!

I wanted to know how Notre Dame is taking so many WPIAL Recruits from Pitt so I just checked out the ND Coaching Staff many from Wayne State, Grand Valley State, Kent State and Smaller Program Colleges and not listed on their Website. Once you go deeper in looking up their Coaching Backgrounds, one can see why they have troubles there lately. Check it yourself but one must dig deeper they seem to be embarrassed about not positing their Alma Maters?

I am going on another Hunch, i don't think Kelly will be there much longer?


LINK:
http://www.uhnd.com/team/coaching-staff/
 
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